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Rollergirl2001 07-27-2005 02:18 PM

My search for a home begins now!
 
Well, I beginning to find a home for me. Now, I have found a sorority that I have liked and I have contacted the corrdinator. She told me that I have to find an alumnae to write a recommendation. But to make things fair, I will hold off until January (after graduation) to find an alumnae to write a recommendation for me.

FloridaTish 07-27-2005 04:22 PM

Best of luck to you on your AI journey!! :)

-Tish

tunatartare 07-27-2005 04:33 PM

Can you start doing AI while you're still in school? I thought you had to be out of school for a few years to be eligible?

Tom Earp 07-27-2005 04:47 PM

If a person is in Undergraduate School, They cannot Even attempt to Try AI!

So, Rollergirl2001, are You an Undergraduate or a Graduate?

There is a big difference isnt there?:(

Maybe if you were more truthful then GCers would be much more helpful.:)

KSUViolet06 07-27-2005 05:06 PM

You have to be out of school to be eligible for Alumna Initiation (hence the name "alumna".)

Taualumna 07-27-2005 06:19 PM

To be fair, Rollergirl DID say that she's going to wait untl January, after she graduates to start...


Not every GLO requires you to be out of school for a few years before starting the AI process. I graduated May 2002, and started contacting GLOs that September.

ASUADPi 07-27-2005 07:31 PM

It probably depends on the sorority and what their AI rules are.

For us an PNAM has to:

Never been initiated into a NPC, NPHC or NIC
Attended college (no requirement to have graduated) or work experience
25 years of age, minimum
No longer enrolled as an undergrad.

So for ADPi as long as she is 25+ when she graduates, it's all good.


Good luck Rollegirl2001. I hope your AI search is successful!!!!!

valkyrie 07-29-2005 11:05 AM

Didn't you just rush a few times, or am I mistaking you for someone else?

honeychile 07-29-2005 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Didn't you just rush a few times, or am I mistaking you for someone else?
I'm going with your response - I've seen the name before, too!

WCUgirl 07-29-2005 11:26 AM

RollerGirl's recruitment thread

Also, do you remember about a year ago (or so) the thread about not being white but wanting to join a white sorority? (this one -- but someone corrected the title :)) -- that was her. Also, there's this thread that got closed/edited LOTS of times.

There are other infamous threads. Do a search by her user name.

*** I'm not ragging on RollerGirl, just showing why people recognize her screen name.

LouisaMay 07-29-2005 12:17 PM

Hi, Rollergirl. Waiting until after graduation is CERTAINLY the way to go. I don't blame you for inquiring a bit early though. The prospect of finally finding a home is quite exciting.

Just keep in mind all of the transitions that you are going to be going through as a new graduate (assuming I am understanding your post properly). You may want to settle into your new role as "college grad" before committing to more! Congratulations on your upcoming graduation.

LM

Tom Earp 07-29-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXiD670
RollerGirl's recruitment thread

Also, do you remember about a year ago (or so) the thread about not being white but wanting to join a white sorority? (this one -- but someone corrected the title :)) -- that was her. Also, there's this thread that got closed/edited LOTS of times.

There are other infamous threads. Do a search by her user name.

*** I'm not ragging on RollerGirl, just showing why people recognize her screen name.




Please take note of this post.

Many wonder about the same thing.


Rollergirl2001,

Questions or answers?

Unregistered- 07-29-2005 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXiD670
RollerGirl's recruitment thread

Also, do you remember about a year ago (or so) the thread about not being white but wanting to join a white sorority? (this one -- but someone corrected the title :)) -- that was her. Also, there's this thread that got closed/edited LOTS of times.

There are other infamous threads. Do a search by her user name.

*** I'm not ragging on RollerGirl, just showing why people recognize her screen name.

I also wanted to add there was another thread she started that raised a few eyebrows. Unfortunately that thread isn't viewable to the rest of the GC because it was moved into the Mods' Corner for review after it turned into a trainwreck. :) That is all.

I'm going to throw this out there because I know some of y'all might be thinking the same thing -- but there's something that's screaming SHADY!!! about this situation, and I'm really crossing my fingers that MY sorority is NOT involved. :rolleyes:

Rollergirl2001 07-30-2005 03:25 PM

I sincerely apologize for making post that are over the line and offending anyone. I guess I need to watch what I go.

Sistermadly 07-30-2005 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OTW
I'm really crossing my fingers that MY sorority is NOT involved. :rolleyes:
Girl, you aren't the only one.

jharb 07-30-2005 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
Girl, you aren't the only one.
I'm glad my organization only does AI in very very special circumstances. I think this whole "I'm going to rush umpteen times and then because I didn't get a bid I'm going to try and AI before I graduate" is SHADY!!!! Also it's just tacky and in poor taste.

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-30-2005 11:37 PM

My first question to all AI's who contact me is now "why didn't you join in college". It's funny how it seems to scare people away............:D

tinydancer 07-31-2005 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
My first question to all AI's who contact me is now "why didn't you join in college". It's funny how it seems to scare people away............:D
You know, that is a really good question to ask. For some reason, I was never asked that, but if I had been, I would have been able to give a good answer.

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-31-2005 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tinydancer
You know, that is a really good question to ask. For some reason, I was never asked that, but if I had been, I would have been able to give a good answer.
Especially when the pseron being asked went to a school with a large Greek System and one of our chapters............she never did answer the question.:rolleyes:

WCUgirl 08-06-2005 08:10 PM

I'm bumping this thread, only to post the following WONDERFUL quote as I think it applies in this situation:

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Before you begin [the AI process], I suggest you stop and ask yourself a few things.

1. Why do I want to be an AI?

2. What can I contribute to an NPC org?

If you can not answer those two questions, stop dead in your tracks until you can.


Rollergirl2001 09-04-2005 06:53 PM

I guess that you guys don't know my story, but here goes:

I have never thought about joining a sorority until my junior year in school. Before my junior year, my friends were either anti Greek or don't want to join because of fears of hazing, time, or other issues. But, when I was a sophomore I had a couple of roommates that were Greek. They were nice people and they do fun things. That's were I decided that I want to pursuit my dreams of becoming Greek.

At the beginning of my junior year, I went to interest meetings for two sororities. I was not really sure about both of them. The reason why was becasue I was not sure I was able to fit in with them, becasue I was completely different. So, I gave it some thought about rushing this time last year. And I decided to do that. I felt more at home with them. However, I was cut heavily after the first round. I was gone after Philatrophy Day. Then, I went through informal rush, and it didn't work out at the end. I still want to be Greek, and I really regret that I didn't rush earlier. I thought about rushing this year after I read anaballerina's story, but I'm afraid that I would be cut again.

So it was actually twice that I tried to get in.

If you can call me shady after that, that's fine. But that's my side of the story, and I'm sticking to it.

Sistermadly 09-04-2005 08:22 PM

The reality is, the more traditional the campus, the less likely an upperclassman will receive a bid. I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it to prepare you.

Alumnae initiation may be an option you wish to investigate, but it is still a mutual selection process. It isn't something you 'fall back on' because seeking undergraduate membership didn't work out for you.

And as someone pointed out earlier, you once called NPC sororities "white" sororities - do you still think of them that way? If you do, you need to ask yourself some serious questions about whether that is going to be an issue for you. If you're still thinking of it as a "white" sorority, can you still look those women in the eye and call them your sister?

If you do decide to seek membership on your campus or at the alumnae level, I wish you luck. But if it doesn't pan out, see if you can find other organizations that you can devote your time to, and make friendships that will last a lifetime.

KSUViolet06 09-07-2005 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly

And as someone pointed out earlier, you once called NPC sororities "white" sororities - do you still think of them that way? If you do, you need to ask yourself some serious questions about whether that is going to be an issue for you. If you're still thinking of it as a "white" sorority, can you still look those women in the eye and call them your sister?

Seriously, if you can't get past the whole NPC sorority=white sorority stereotype, then there's no real point in trying to join because you could never think of these women as "sisters". You'd never get past the point of them being "white women."

OK, so why do you want to join? For you to ever think about AI, it'd have to be about alot more than just "well I got cut 3 times in college". Is it about being a sister and having a sincere love for the organization you join and wanting to be active in their causes, OR has it become about "getting in" at this point just to say, I got in?

And for the record, I'm certainly not trying to antagonize you, I just really want you to honestly think about why you want to join.

ASUADPi 09-07-2005 06:23 PM

I just wanted to say that I understand that you feel like we are kind of "jumping down on you" but if you can't answer these questions posed to you, then you aren't ready for AI.

You have to be incredibly patient with AI because it is much more complicated than FR. In college it's a mutual selection process. AI, yes you might have "chosen" the sorority because you felt a connection in college or a connection with the philanthropy. It's more about you "selling" yourself to us. Making us "want" to sponser you as a AI member. It's no longer mutual selection with a nice bid card, it's the sorority determining a "yeah" or "nay" on the PNAM's "application".

In all honesty if a PNAM came up to me and wanted information on AI or wanted me to sponser them I'd be asking all of these tough questions and probably more.

I know sororities are trying to grow and expand on AI but it is still a pretty new concept (and I mean that in the terms that publically it's been talked about for only the last decade even though some sororties have been doing AI since the 50's). A lot of sororities AI programs are run with the PNAM's being known by one of the active alums, not a PNAM contacting the sorority. Not that I'm saying the latter should 't happen b/c I feel it should, but change takes time.

I'm sorry if I sound mean or brutal but that is the reality of AI and you need to be prepared for the long process and the tough questions.

Sistermadly 09-07-2005 07:26 PM

ASUADPi, alumnae initiation isn't a new concept for everyone. Alpha Phi initiated it's first alumna initiate in 1874.

</horn toot> ;)

Unregistered- 09-07-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
ASUADPi, alumnae initiation isn't a new concept for everyone. Alpha Phi initiated it's first alumna initiate in 1874.

</horn toot> ;)

What she said.

Many NPCs have been AI-ing women for over a century now.

Just because some sororities are now just grasping the concept, it's not fair to overlook the alumnae women who have been joining our organizations since the beginning.

ASUADPi 09-07-2005 07:56 PM

sistermadly and otw, i stand corrected. OMG i find that so AWESOME that chapters have been doing it for so long.

[mini hijack] maybe it's because i was only initiated in 98 but i didn't know anything about AI until like 2-3 years ago. i actually met an ai at convention who was initiated in like 92 and i was like "omg". i don't think we have been doing it as long as alpha phi though[end mini hijack]


either way...


i still stand with what i said (minus me being wrong about the dates and stuff, sorry, anyone else please feel free to correct me).

adpiucf 09-08-2005 09:39 AM

Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are going on to), join a professional org, etc.

More than likely in your travels you will meet sorority alumnae women and see their levels of involvement in the orgs you have in common and in their sororities, if they are active as alumnae-- maybe even come to an alum social or Founders' Day event. Go slow. You may find you have a rich and fulfilling post-college life without sorority alumnae life, or you may connect with alumnae with whom you feel a mutual bond.

Don't rush it. You're on the verge of a very big step in your life-- life after college. Embrace this upcoming experience and see where it leads you.

Tom Earp 09-09-2005 05:02 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by adpiucf
[B]Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are goin

Tom Earp 09-09-2005 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adpiucf
Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are going on to), join a professional org, etc.

More than likely in your travels you will meet sorority alumnae women and see their levels of involvement in the orgs you have in common and in their sororities, if they are active as alumnae-- maybe even come to an alum social or Founders' Day event. Go slow. You may find you have a rich and fulfilling post-college life without sorority alumnae life, or you may connect with alumnae with whom you feel a mutual bond.

Don't rush it. You're on the verge of a very big step in your life-- life after college. Embrace this upcoming experience and see where it leads you.


(DITTO):)

When You Graduate from College, You will not be a world beater right from the Blocs, Race Term.

You will be Hired for Your background, but will be expected to relearn a whole New Process on how The Company works. All You did, is to Keep Up Study Skills in a certain area so that YOU can be trained in The Company. (Ex RH Macys Jr. Exec).

So, get your feet on the ground, get to know people, maybe look for Member Alums of ABC GLO.

AI is not an easy Process, but can be very rewarding to say the least!:)

Do not over extend yourself to early.:D You will be busy with making a living first!

1. College Prioritys=Make Grades and Graduate.

2. Job Prioritys=Learn The Job and be good at it!

3. Make $$$ to live on !

4. Feel Comfortable enough to expand into New Areas!

Easy Formula isnt it?;)

Rollergirl2001 09-29-2005 06:29 PM

Well, I've got to take care of my GPA first. Mine's right now is a 2.975. All I got to do is make one A, but I want to have a little higher GPA, because I'm going to grad school. The good news with that is that, my junior and senior years GPA is 3.14. It's the math that killed my overall GPA. Also, I had a rough semester last spring, with the deah of my great-grandfather and my severe illness. So, my grades dropped below a 3.0.

My junior and senior GPA is good enough for many of the schools. The bad news is that my overall GPA is not there yet. So as long as I do fine in my classes, I'll should be fine to get into grad school, pending GRE scores. I won't go to grad school until Fall 2007 (money issues).

Now, as soon as I settle with everyting else, which may take some months, I'll begin my AI process. However, I have e-mailed a couple of the sororities about AI. Sorry to say this , but one of the sororites said that even though they take women that are not in college, non-members can't do AI.

As far as ADPi is concerned, if I don't get in by then, I'll consider them. (I'm 23. :()

Xylochick216 09-29-2005 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rollergirl2001
As far as ADPi is concerned, if I don't get in by then, I'll consider them. (I'm 23. :()
I'm way confused... you GUESS you'll consider ADPi? AI is an honor, not something you settle for. Focus more on your classes. Again, Greek Life isn't for everyone. Some people just can't take a hint...

Rollergirl2001 09-29-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
If you don't get in by when you'll consider ADPi? Ever think they just might need to consider YOU.
I will always have ADPi on my list. I never said that I GUESS.

DGMarie 09-29-2005 07:14 PM

I remember a poster here who pursued AI quite fervently (some would say maniacally) with ADPi. McGee or something like that. She PM'd me quite a bit. It was very odd.

ASUADPi 09-29-2005 08:06 PM

When did we come into the picture?



No offense or anything it sound like we are your second choice. I personally would never sponser anyone who sees my sorority as their second choice. Sorry.

KSUViolet06 09-30-2005 12:04 AM

AI is NOTHING like Panhellenic rush with it's rounds, invites, rankings, and second choices. AI is NOT MUTUAL SELECTION. You could pursue a sorority for YEARS and not get initiated into it. While you're talking "second choices", you may not EVER get into the org you say is your first (which I'm assuming from your other post is Alpha Phi). In your best interest, you should watch what you say. There are many alumnae women who post here in BOTH orgs. They are very well connected and know lots of other alumnae, some may be in your area.

Your haphazard "pursuit" of AI and lack of discretion and tact is laughable. It's easy to see that you're treating the AI process (something NOT taken lightly by the many orgs that do it) as a "quick fix" for your unsuccessful college recruitments. You are not prepared for the difficulty of the process at all.

adpi*violet 09-30-2005 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rollergirl2001
As far as ADPi is concerned, if I don't get in by then, I'll consider them. (I'm 23. :()
Roller Girl- I'm very confused also. If you don't get "in" to where- to ADPi? Were you persuing ADPi in your previous formal and informal recruitments? And when is the "then" you're referring to?
Also, from reading other posts on Greek Chat, you should know by now that ADPi does not encourage random Potential AI. It is something a current member in good standing needs to invite you to do and it is still relatively rare with our organization. As much as I would like it to become more frequent, we are still working on getting the word out.

Jill1228 10-01-2005 12:08 AM

Is there a school in the area that has a course in Discretion 101? Or maybe the remedial Discretion 001?

KSUViolet06 10-01-2005 01:49 PM

And just in case you're wondering, just because there are alot of Alpha Phi AI's on this site, does NOT BY ANY MEANS make them "easier" to get into.

And what do you mean "if you don't get in by then"? There are alot of GCers whom if they had put a timeline on their pursuit of an org, wouldn't be members right now.

blueGBI 10-01-2005 02:12 PM

Okay....

I got hot wings, popcorn, soda, LI Iced Tea, ribs on the grill for watching this trainwreck.


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