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Taualumna 07-22-2005 09:54 PM

AI and your sisters
 
A girl I kind of know is an AGD sister. She recently found out that I'm an AI, and she doesn't seem to mention AGD as much anymore. I'm wondering if she doesn't consider me as much of a sister :( Has this happened to anyone?

honeychile 07-22-2005 10:00 PM

Sorry, but I think your friend is out of line. A sister is a sister, and HOW she was initiated should have nothing to do with it!

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-22-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Sorry, but I think your friend is out of line. A sister is a sister, and HOW she was initiated should have nothing to do with it!
Agreed. It's totally irrelevant HOW you joined.

AGDee 07-23-2005 12:05 AM

I wholeheartedly agree that you are a sister no matter how you joined. And, Suzanne Carmack Spicer, our last International President was an AI, so the Fraternity definitely values our AIs.

Sistermadly 07-23-2005 08:42 AM

I haven't had anyone act unsisterly toward me, but I have had people assume that I don't know that much about the Fraternity.

Sistermadly 07-23-2005 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
And, Suzanne Carmack Spicer, our last International President was an AI, so the Fraternity definitely values our AIs.
Really?! So there's hope for me after all? *lol* :D

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-23-2005 01:17 PM

The head of our Foundation is an AI, as are a few very involved women.........

As I said in the other thread, my chapter's most recent AI is more committed to us and more involved than a number of women in this area who joined as collegians.

navane 07-23-2005 02:01 PM

Taualumna, do you think that maybe it could just be a coincidence? You didn't mention that you've actually heard her make any disparaging remarks. Maybe it has nothing to do with you....maybe another sister offended her one day and now she's not as keen on the alum chapter or AGD something. After all, you didn't say that she stopped talking about AGD altogether, just that she doesn't mention it as much. The only thing you could do is directly ask her about her thoughts. Otherwise, I wouldn't assume she doesn't like you or thinks you're less of a sister. :(


.....Kelly :)

navane 07-23-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
The head of our Foundation is an AI, as are a few very involved women.........

As I said in the other thread, my chapter's most recent AI is more committed to us and more involved than a number of women in this area who joined as collegians.


L'Cena is an AI?? I didn't know that!


To go along with what you said, I don't think I've met anyone yet who has treated me as a lesser sister for being an AI. As a matter of fact, the San Diego Alumnae Chapter chapter was excited to point out to me that one of the other members is an AI too.

.....Kelly :)

midwesterngirl 07-23-2005 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Sistermadly
Really?! So there's hope for me after all? *lol* :D

I am pretty certain that we have had past International Presidents who were AI's. Frances Willard was our 15th president,but I am pretty certain there has been at least a couple more.

CutiePie2000 07-23-2005 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
Suzanne Carmack Spicer, our last International President was an AI, so the Fraternity definitely values our AIs.
Sidebar: I seem to recall that AOII also had an AI who was President, or at least was "up there" in the ranks. So, if you want to be "up there" and you're an AI, it can be done.

Tom Earp 07-23-2005 02:57 PM

I am so amazed and gratified to read posts like these!!!

It just so proves that becoming A Member is and can be done more than just one way only.:cool:

Jill1228 07-23-2005 03:02 PM

Sounds like our chapter. Personally I haven't encountered anyone with a problem. If G-d forbid that happens, then it is their problem...NOT MINE!

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
As I said in the other thread, my chapter's most recent AI is more committed to us and more involved than a number of women in this area who joined as collegians.

AOIIsilver 07-23-2005 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CutiePie2000
Sidebar: I seem to recall that AOII also had an AI who was President, or at least was "up there" in the ranks. So, if you want to be "up there" and you're an AI, it can be done.
True...as well as MANY IHQ and AOII Foundation staff members...
Silver

FloridaTish 07-23-2005 08:30 PM

I seem to recall reading in another GreekChat post that there was also a Kappa Delta AI who was an executive officer or President in recent times. Any KD's out there who can verify that?

I look at it from the viewpoint as if my parents adopted a little girl a couple of years after I was born. Yes, she may have been adopted and isn't my "biological" sister, but she would be my sister just the same and I wouldn't love her any less just because we don't share the same DNA markers.

The way you became a sister may have been different, but the end result and the fraternal bonds you share are just the same.

-Tish

Unregistered- 07-24-2005 05:34 AM

When my chapter was installed in 1992, many of the sisters initiated that day were AIs.

In my opinion, these women remain as the backbone of my collegiate chapter -- and without them, we probably wouldn't have survived 13+ years on campus. Our former Alum Chapter President was an AI, was very instrumental in helping Hawaii achieve 5 star status and now serves on the VST.

A sister is a sister, no matter when or how she joined.

phisigduchesscv 07-24-2005 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by navane
L'Cena is an AI?? I didn't know that!


To go along with what you said, I don't think I've met anyone yet who has treated me as a lesser sister for being an AI. As a matter of fact, the San Diego Alumnae Chapter chapter was excited to point out to me that one of the other members is an AI too.

.....Kelly :)

Hijack really quick -

L'Cena goes to my church and she and her husband are very involved. It's funny because I never really paid attention to the fact that she was Greek. Then I saw her at a luncheon for the South Bay Alumnae Panhellenic and discovered she was Gamma Phi Beta - she had the most beautiful GPhiB necklace on. I remember thinking that is the type of necklace that an international officer would wear. You guys have a great sister and officer in L'Cena.

End of hijack

Taualumna 07-24-2005 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by navane
Taualumna, do you think that maybe it could just be a coincidence? You didn't mention that you've actually heard her make any disparaging remarks. Maybe it has nothing to do with you....maybe another sister offended her one day and now she's not as keen on the alum chapter or AGD something. After all, you didn't say that she stopped talking about AGD altogether, just that she doesn't mention it as much. The only thing you could do is directly ask her about her thoughts. Otherwise, I wouldn't assume she doesn't like you or thinks you're less of a sister. :(


.....Kelly :)

I don't know. She introduced me to friends as "an AGD sister", but had this "shocked" look when I told someone that I am an AI. It was then that she stopped talking about AGD. WEIRD, huh?

Tom Earp 07-24-2005 03:03 PM

What a shame if she feels this way.:(

Little does she actually realize.:confused:

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-24-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by navane
L'Cena is an AI?? I didn't know that!.....Kelly :)
Bonnie Payne, the Executive Director.

SmartBlondeGPhB 07-24-2005 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phisigduchesscv
Hijack really quick -

L'Cena goes to my church and she and her husband are very involved. It's funny because I never really paid attention to the fact that she was Greek. Then I saw her at a luncheon for the South Bay Alumnae Panhellenic and discovered she was Gamma Phi Beta - she had the most beautiful GPhiB necklace on. I remember thinking that is the type of necklace that an international officer would wear. You guys have a great sister and officer in L'Cena.

End of hijack

She's a past International President. See my other post, but she IS NOT an AI.

navane 07-24-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
Bonnie Payne, the Executive Director.

Ah...ok! No wonder I was so suprised! L'Cena is the Chair of the Foundation's Executive Committee and she is the one who appears on all of the Foundation brochures. So, when you said, "head of our Foundation" it was hard to tell if you were refering to the Chairwoman or the staff's Executive Director. I got it now!


.....Kelly :)

LPIDelta 07-25-2005 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by CutiePie2000
Sidebar: So, if you want to be "up there" and you're an AI, it can be done.
As an additional sidebar--I am an AI and I served a term as an international officer. We currently have two AIs serving on our international board, and I believe an AI is president of our foundation. In the last few years, AIs have been immediately active in our volunteer forces in a variety of roles. It can be done! I am so glad to hear that there are other groups who embrace AIs in their leadership.

KSUViolet06 07-26-2005 05:31 PM

Our Chapter Advisor is an AI. She's the top CA in our region and very well respected.

WCUgirl 07-29-2005 10:59 AM

I think this attitude arises from uneducated sisters. And, let's be realistic -- some snooty ones, too.

I know a woman who was going through the AI process and had found a group that was interested in her. One of the requirements was that she had to meet every member of the alumnae association and get their approval. She had met everyone except for one woman, who happened to be a recent graduate. When she sat down to dinner to meet w/ her, this member told her point blank, "I do not believe in alumna initiation, so I will not approve you."

She has no idea what she missed out on -- this woman ended up initiating w/ another NPC group and is a very active volunteer.

Many of the women in my alumnae panhellenic have expressed shock that there even is such a thing as AI for some groups. One of the comments was something to the effect of it's unnatural to want to join a sorority after college. Well...by that logic, it's unnatural to be involved as an alumna!

Sistermadly 07-29-2005 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JocelynC
Our Chapter Advisor is an AI. She's the top CA in our region and very well respected.
CAs who are also alumna initiates are some dedicated women.

*cough* ;)

bruinaphi 07-30-2005 06:49 AM

Alpha Phi has a long history of alumnae initiates being involved in critical roles. Frances E. Willard, our first alumnae initiate, served as international president of our fraternity.


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