Does anyone sympathize/empathize with the killers of Emmett Till?
 

"In 1955 a black Chicago teenager, Emmett Louis Till, 14, whistled at a Caucasian woman in Money, Miss. Several days later on August 27, 1995 Emmett disappeared. He was eventually located on the bottom of a river wired to a factory fan. He had been beaten and shot in the head."

Does anyone care to sympathize with his killers? Perhaps you may think that you hate it when someone whistles at a lady. Perhaps you may understand where his killers were coming from but this was wrong.

Is this the case for anyone?

Does anyone want to create excuses? Perhaps reason through it?

This is what Emmett looked like after:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics...pen-casket.jpg

Personally I think it's awful and there is no sympathy or empathy on my parts and I don't need to reason it or excuse it.

-Rudey

Considering that the men who were on trial for this crime were acquitted, I'd say there are 12 white men who sympathize and empathize with his killers.

;)

Do you sympathize and/or empathize?

-Rudey

Considering the definitions of those terms, No.

But like I said, 12 people did.

Do you dislike being whistled at?

-Rudey

Well, were. Are any of them still alive?

At any rate, I don't think the two examples are even remotely comparable, but I'm not sure why I'm bothering to post this, because y'all knew that already.


And now I'm off to read the other thread to see if anybody actually condoned the murder or if GCers are just making isht up again.

Actually, it depends on the whistler. And his behavior along with the act of the whistle.

Example: If I walk by and a guy whistles and then says, "You are so beautiful", I'd take that better than if the same man whistled and then tried to grab my body or called me a derogatory name.

What two examples are you referring to? I'm a bit confused.

The Emmett Till case and the case in this thread

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=68112

which someone is clearly trying to draw a parallel between.

Do you dislike it when someone whistles at you?

-Rudey

So in some cases you dislike being whistled at?

-Rudey

When the whistling is accompanied with physically and/or verbally abusive behavior, yes.

But yes whistling on its own? It most likely wouldn't bother me. Its the actions that go along with whistling that bother me.

So you can understand where the killers were coming from I guess.

-Rudey

Nope, I didn't say that.

Nice try though.

Besides, I'm a woman, and the killers were men, so I can't relate to them, right?

Well you related to the black male killer of a white female, so I guess you can.

It's OK that you can relate to Emmett's killers. Just admit it.

-Rudey

Wrong again Rudey.

Actually, I'm pretty right in that you can relate to sometimes not liking when someone whistles at you and understand where Emmett's killers were coming from just as you relate to a black killer of a white woman having felt discriminated.

-Rudey

Straw man.

Re: Does anyone sympathize/empathize with the killers of Emmett Till?
 

Seriously Rudey what is the point of this thread? What type of morally bereft person would sympathize with Emmett's killers? Or more to the point which of us wouldn't be outraged and disgusted by the racists who murdered Emmitt?

Actually, your analogy is incorrect. Till's killers weren't whistled at, a relative of the killers was the intended recipient. So if anything, I would relate to the woman, not the men, since they weren't the objects of the whistle.

I seriously think you have too much time on your hands. Would you like to help me work on my original research proposal?

And the other problem with this is that there were conflicting stories as to why the boy was killed in the first place. Glad you got one piece of it right Rudey, he allegedly whistled at a white woman which brought on his violent death. However his friends and family said no such incident occured and if I'm not mistaken the woman did much later but she was scared at the time to say anything. I like watching Rudey get all indignant though so let him keep trying.

Till's killers were protecting the girl.

Keep trying though.

Hey I'm at work all day in front of a computer with several monitors so it's not hard for me to post. You're the one in grad school that can't stop responding.

-Rudey

Conflicting reports? OK. Whatever you like. Either way some girls like jubilance get upset when guys whistle at them, some guys gets upset when they see a girl getting whistled at based on this, and so jubilance can see where they are coming from although it is an awful act that is wrong and unexcusable.

-Rudey

Re: Re: Does anyone sympathize/empathize with the killers of Emmett Till?
 

The thing is that some people can see where he's coming from just like they can see where a black guy that murders a white woman because of her race is coming from. They think it's inexcusable, but they see where he's coming from.

Conclusion: Either way, Emmett is dead and so is that woman. If someone can see where the black racists were coming from, they can surely have no problem seeing where the white racists were coming from.

-Rudey

There was no protecting to do Rudey but I'm glad to see which part of the story you have opted to believe. Till allegedly whistled at her in town in front of a store. Till was DRUG from his home hours later in the middle of the night by a group of drunk, pissed off white men and was beaten and hidden from the family he was visiting. But again, I like watching you get all riled up so let's keep it moving.

Who's riled up? Perhaps you? And who's believing what?

My point stands well.

-Rudey

And your point was? And I can't claim to be riled at all, you amuse me.

Once again Rudey, your reading comprehension is failing.

I said I may not LIKE being whistled at, I didn't say I would get upset.

Try again.

Does your boss know you spend all day on the computer? That can't be good for your productivity.

Yes my boss provides the computers. What a dumb question. Keep studying in your grad program, maybe one day you'll be educated and can provide more substantial thoughts.

-Rudey

Sorry, but still trying to put a hook on the reason for this thread.:(

Brutaley Killing a Young Person no matter where it is uncalled for.

Granted it was in the Days of Southern Hatred and it did happen, But, it is still wrong.

Old News Reserected, to be sure.:(

So, You presume to ask everyone else on their take, What Is Yours?

So, if you werent there then what do you know?

A Different time in Our History, not good, but it did happen.:o

no - not in the slightest. this goes well beyond ignorance.

there was a great dylan song creatively named The Death of Emmett Till

"Twas down in Mississippi no so long ago,
When a young boy from Chicago town stepped through a Southern door.
This boy's dreadful tragedy I can still remember well,
The color of his skin was black and his name was Emmett Till.

Some men they dragged him to a barn and there they beat him up.
They said they had a reason, but I can't remember what.
They tortured him and did some evil things too evil to repeat.
There was screaming sounds inside the barn, there was laughing sounds out on the street.

Then they rolled his body down a gulf amidst a bloody red rain
And they threw him in the waters wide to cease his screaming pain.
The reason that they killed him there, and I'm sure it ain't no lie,
Was just for the fun of killin' him and to watch him slowly die.

And then to stop the United States of yelling for a trial,
Two brothers they confessed that they had killed poor Emmett Till.
But on the jury there were men who helped the brothers commit this awful crime,
And so this trial was a mockery, but nobody seemed to mind.

I saw the morning papers but I could not bear to see
The smiling brothers walkin' down the courthouse stairs.
For the jury found them innocent and the brothers they went free,
While Emmett's body floats the foam of a Jim Crow southern sea.

If you can't speak out against this kind of thing, a crime that's so unjust,
Your eyes are filled with dead men's dirt, your mind is filled with dust.
Your arms and legs they must be in shackles and chains, and your blood it must refuse to flow,
For you let this human race fall down so God-awful low!

This song is just a reminder to remind your fellow man
That this kind of thing still lives today in that ghost-robed Ku Klux Klan.
But if all of us folks that thinks alike, if we gave all we could give,
We could make this great land of ours a greater place to live.