Scientology....thoughts?
 

I like to go with a statement made by a certain celebrity superstar who transcended a generation, who researched many religions before deciding what he wanted to do.

"It's all head and no heart."

That man was Elvis, whose wife, years after their divorce, embraced the cul..church.

To me, they basically say that some things are man's will....which I don't agree with.

Their idea about mental health is dangerous.

My personal thoughts, but I find it hard to take Scientology serious as a religion when the "founder" specifically set out to create a religion so that he could make money, and freely admited that this was his purpose.

I was talking about this with sugarandspice the other day, and she said it sounds like a star trek fraternity or something (lol, hopefully she doesn't mind me posting that, but she's totally right). There was a website that showed the auditing thing, which is just weird. It's also weird that when you go to the Scientology website, they tell you that Scientology has the answers, but you have to buy the book to find out -- what actual religion makes you BUY the book?

It seems like another b.s. religion made up by some guy with a god complex. I can think of a few others, but I'll leave that for another day.

Haha, it IS Star Trek fraternity.

Honestly, I think it's b.s., but I think almost every religion is b.s, so there you go. I don't think it's any more cult-like than a number of mainstream religions, however (the LDS church, Jehovah's Witnesses, et cetera).

I'm starting to wonder if maybe the Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes relationship wasn't meant to boost publicity for their respective movies, but rather to raise interest in Scientology, because it's on everybody's radar right now. Haha.

This makes me think Scientologists will have the same defense for their thing that we do for greek life.

"If you're on the outside looking in, you can't understand it. If you're on the inside looking out, you can't explain it."

Either way, the pinnacle of Scientology was Battlefield Earth....think about that for a minute...

I was reading about it a while ago, and on the official site you can take a test to find out if Scientology is right for you. I put in fake info and took the test, and then at the end it was like "go to our center on Main Street to receive your results!" and I was all kinds of pissed.

Did you know that they have their own Navy?

http://www.verfassungsschutz-bw.de/g...-flyer2_gr.jpg

Snappy little unis, no?

Because Sea Org is the closest thing you can get to Star Trek without being in space!

There is a Scientology outreach centre hear in Toronto on Yonge street - I pass by it everytime I head to the Duke of Glouster pub to watch a soccer or rugby game... some truely odd folks seem to hang out there... oh well maybe one day we'll be drunk enough (early enough) to wander across and be "assessed" :D

I swear they've been renovating that centre "to serve us better" for that alst 10 years. It is a such a hole. I guess Scientology is not big enough here they can't get the funds to fix it up. I've often thought about going in there myself, but now I am afraid they might kidnap me.

That, or the law suit they faced could have really hurt them.

Check out the article in the Tom Cruise and katie Holmes thread in Entertainment.

http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/b...1592120229.jpg
http://images.rottentomatoes.com/ima...4/photo_01.jpg

Coincidence? I think not.

Would Like to Read thier "STUFF".


Make My Own decission before I go Do What?:confused:

I would like to read it, but dont want door knockers!

Aint My Damn Style!:mad:

Just Seems Like A Lot Or A Few Stars use it?:rolleyes:

Oh, James Jones was not one.

Used to listen to a Silver Tounged Dude while I was funishing Basement.

They had a Special Religion too.:rolleyes: :confused: :)

Quoi?
Silver

ITs been a while since I read anything about Scientology. My understanding is that it was originally more a psychological system than a religion as we normally think about religion.

OBviously there are legal and tax benefits to being a "church" in America. Also, we should never underestimate the capaicity of man to pervert something. Budha never intended to be worshipped and would be horrified if he knew people were doing it.

They get so much bad publicity that I am not sure that I could ever not look at them with a jaundiced eye. Although I do reflect that the Christian Media has even condemned meditation as some type of cult like or horrible activity. And meditation is merely focused relaxation.

There's been several, most having to do with taxes, and whether or not they're tax exempt. I gotta remember to dig out my notes from nonprofit law to refresh... we talked about it.

L.Ron Hubbard is a shady ass mofo when it comes to taxes.

Also keep in mind that the guy has been dead a long time and somehow he keeps producing books and such . . . he is more productive from beyond the grave than many living.

kinda like Tupac. Those two, Elvis, and a bunch of other supposedly dead famous people are all living on a tropical island somewhere, lol

Must be a lively crew lol :)

Was reading and found this...

Fair Game Policy
Scientologists claim that "Fair Game" was cancelled in the late sixties but,

Dead Agenting

From: apologeticsindex.org

FWIW, my brother knew someone who became a Scientologist when he lived in Colorado. When this guy (who had just inherited a fortune) decided to leave the "church", he found live rattlesnakes in his mailbox on a daily basis. That alone was enough for me to believe that they're nutjobs!

Dude. Clams. They think we came from CLAMS. I'm scared that if I walk by one of their centers they'll try to throw some tartar sauce on me or something.

Ah, Yes, but did have some Great Stuff to say, and had one heck of a radio voice tho!

Thought all He wanted was $$$$$$!

Was interesting read though!:)

It's in the TIME article MysticCat posted in the Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes thread.

Dianetics/the bible both great fiction works, although I think the bible is a bit of a better read.

Ok, does anyone know exactly what they believe? I looked on the website and I coudn't really find an explination of their religion. Someone told me something about them believing that we all have aliens living in us and that is why we get sick. I don't know if this is true but if it is...they are "special". If anyone can clear it up that would be great. Thanks!

I would check this out: http://religiousmovements.lib.virgin...ientology.html

In short:

It sounds kind of like some sci-fi geek smoked some crack and tried to rip off Buddhism while adding special effects.

The church owns a whole bunch of land in Boston, including an area called "Scientology Plaza" with a fountain/wading pool. It's actually pretty impressive, and it's right in Boston's downtown/Copley Square area.

Another note - Earl Cooley, who was the chairman of the Boston University board of trustees for a number of years, was an attorney for the Church of Scientology. I know some students were upset that he had such a position of power and was connected with the church.

Who remembers the TV commercial for "Dianetics"? Ah, the erupting volcano, etc....


Edited b/c I misspelled "Dianetics"...guess I wouldn't be a very good Scientologist.

I remember it! I used to be like - what in the world? - and I really wanted to order it just to find out what all the hype was about. I only recently realized the connection.

LOL! I'm just now reading this thread. Damn, that's funny!!

Old Man Hubbard and Jr. both had Great Radio Voices!:) Last My Ass off but listened doing the Family room in the basement!

Scientology oops scharliton of Jim Jones Area!

Oh Morman Splinter Groups get weirder.

Jehova Witness, dont come to My Friggen Door. I dont want you here!

Sets of Mind, I will cure My Self of Diseases on My Own, throw Snakes in the air and let them bite me to see if I am Pure! Oh Yes!:rolleyes:

Who was it, Robert Fuller of the Crystasl Church in Cal. that had a Ton of Beleivers in Calli?

God, Stupid is as Stupid Does, and I aint totally stupid!:rolleyes:

Have a Great Evening, God Beleives in You! Seen Any God Lately from any of these People?

I remember that commercial. I thought it was for a science fiction novel or a new Marvel Comic book character.

you can find that out for a few easy payments...

one of the websites i was reading says to take the courses to eventually reach the highest level of the scientology costs somewhere along the lines of $350,000.

during my freshman year, I went to go party up at UCSB. My friends and I went to state street, where we saw three amazing look women standing outside of some store. THey started talking to us and we stared at their breast. We kind of ignored what they said and the last sentence they said was, " wanna take a survey?". We saw " scientology" and figured it was some science crap. hell, the idea of these chicks being hot and smart was really awesome. THis freakin survey took like 20 minutes. i forgot what the questions were since this was like 5 years ago, but I do remember thinking it was really weird and kept looking up and looking at my friends. We were all whispering " WTF?" but the hot chicks kept hypnotizing us with their hot sexy voices and conviently leaned over so we could see their cleavage. yeah, we kept going. finally, one of i got the balls to say, " listen, why don't we freakin skip this shit and you girls just party with us later". she said she'd give me her # if I signed up and payed for some crap. At that point we basically said, " bitch please" and walked out.

they followed us. wonderful. its a little weird when hot chicks follow you and you get scared. anyways, we lost them, thank god I put my name down as " Mike Hunt".

LOL! I was thinking of Tupac too, before I read what you posted! Too funny!

Yeah, I think it's pretty much a crock. I think it might be funny to sit down and talk to Tom about it. It's like he's totally brainwashed by it or something. I don't know if anyone else caught the tiff between he and Brooke Shields. He was ragging her for publicly announcing she took anti-depressants for PPD. According to Tom, 'Scientology teaches us that depression can be cured by a good diet and exercise." All that time I wasted in Psych classes.

The publicity for the cult is probably out of jealousy, because Kabbahla was getting too popular with the rich celebs!


Edited because Karbala and Kabbahla are too different things.:D

All that land around Copley is part of the Christian Science church which I think is different than Scientology.

Christian Science...

Overview :
Christian Science is based on the life, teachings, and works of Christ Jesus. Christian Science does not have an organizational creed. However, the following are the tenets, or important points, of the religion as given in Science and Health (p. 496):


"As adherents of Truth, we take the inspired Word of the Bible as our sufficient guide to eternal Life.

We acknowledge and adore one supreme and infinite God. We acknowledge His Son, one Christ; the Holy Ghost or divine Comforter; and man in God's image and likeness.

We acknowledge God's forgiveness of sin in the destruction of sin and the spiritual understanding that casts out evil as unreal. But the belief in sin is punished so long as the belief lasts.

We acknowledge Jesus' atonement as the evidence of divine, efficacious Love, unfolding man's unity with God through Christ Jesus the Way-shower; and we acknowledge that man is saved through Christ, through Truth, Life, and Love as demonstrated by the Galilean Prophet in healing the sick and overcoming sin and death.

We acknowledge that the crucifixion of Jesus and his resurrection served to uplift faith to understand eternal Life, even the allness of Soul, Spirit, and the nothingness of matter.

And we solemnly promise to watch, and pray for that Mind to be in us which was also in Christ Jesus; to do unto others as we would have them do unto us; and to be merciful, just, and pure."

Thanks :)

Okay, just how many Gods are supposed to be?

Who worships who and What is That God Named? GOD? Divine Being?

Oh, Christians, Hebrews, Buddists, Musilams, ETAL!

Now there are Sects who profess, MINE IS BETTER! Who Says?:rolleyes:

I will start a Sect, Use Eggs, Grow With The Oval of the inner faith of the outer shell!:p

I thought only Kansas Legislatures were that friggen Stupid!:rolleyes: