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AXiDTrish 06-01-2005 11:47 AM

Anti-Sorority Site By Former And Current Members! HELP!!
 
Please help!

2 people, one a former member and one a current active member of a chapter on campus as created an "Anti-XYZ" website. On this site as supporters are members of the other NPC group, members of a fraternity "sweetheart" group, and other PNM's the group has recruited in the past.

I am frustrated by the active chapter member as she is undermining her own chapter and the other there really isn't anything I can do about it.

Has this EVER happened to anyone else? What did you do? How did you handle it????? HELP!!!!!

adpiucf 06-01-2005 12:00 PM

The current member can be brought before Standards for an ethics review.

The other NPC supporting the site: You should raise this issue at the next Panhellenic meeting.

There is nothing you can do to stop a non-member from operating a web site-- Free Speech. If it is hosted on the university's intraweb, you may be able to have it taken down.

Or you could threaten legal action for slander with a cease and desist letter.

33girl 06-01-2005 12:13 PM

Wow, I've seen ex-members make crabby sites, but NEVER one that brought members from another group into it. That's hardcore.

Definitely go after the other group, as the ex-member doesn't really have anything to lose. Even if you get it taken off the university's web, she'll put it up elsewhere.

Peaches-n-Cream 06-01-2005 02:42 PM

I just want to clarify: a current and a a former member of XYZ made an anti-XYZ website. If that is correct, I think that XYZ Headquarters should be contacted about what to do. I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled her pin.

I would also contact the chapter president of the other NPC and the campus panhellenic. If that doesn't work, contact the other NPC's Headquarters. This is unacceptable.

I think that these misguided young women need to be reminded about the mission and creed of NPC.

About NPC : : Mission Statement

The National Panhellenic Conference supports its women's fraternities by promoting values, education, leadership, friendships, cooperation and citizenship.

NPC Mission Statement, Adopted at the Interim Session, 10/00.

About NPC : : Creed

We, as Undergraduate Members of women's fraternities, stand for good scholarship, for guarding of good health, for maintenance of fine standards, and for serving, to the best of our ability, our college community. Cooperation for furthering fraternity life, in harmony with its best possibilities, is the ideal that shall guide our fraternity activities.

We, as Fraternity Women, stand for service through the development of character inspired by the close contact and deep friendship of individual fraternity and Panhellenic life. The opportunity for wide and wise human service, through mutual respect and helpfulness, is the tenet by which we strive to live.

AXiDTrish 06-01-2005 02:45 PM

You are correct.
 
The current and former member are both from XYZ sorority.

The issue is being escalated to determine how to best handle it. Thankfully no sorority "information" has been openly shared, if you know what I mean.

CarolinaCutie 06-01-2005 02:49 PM

Why, as a current member of an organization, would someone take part in a website that is created solely to trash their own org? Ex-members, I guess I can understand... but a current member? Ridiculous. I would contact the chapter president or advisor of ALL organizations involved, to see if they could take care of it internally.

AchtungBaby80 06-01-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
Why, as a current member of an organization, would someone take part in a website that is created solely to trash their own org? Ex-members, I guess I can understand... but a current member? Ridiculous. I would contact the chapter president or advisor of ALL organizations involved, to see if they could take care of it internally.
I've come across some active members over the years who I could totally see doing something like that, because they only remained active for reasons like housing or the fact that their parents paid their dues and they just wanted to go to the parties. So I guess it does happen.

Tom Earp 06-01-2005 05:34 PM

You cannot do anything by a former Member, but if this is true by a current Member, keep it filed for later use.

As the old saying goes, cover your booty!

This type of stuff does not Help Your Chapter. It could be a detrement for sure.

pixell 06-01-2005 05:50 PM

My suggestion would be to inform the chapter advisor of XYZ and let them handle the current member. If that doesn't get the website taken down, go to panhellenic. It's really tacky of the members of the other NPC group to be involved in that, you might want to talk to their advisor too.

Good luck!

FSUZeta 06-01-2005 08:31 PM

i agree with pixell. as a general advisor to a collegiate chapter i would absolutely hit the roof if i found a current member hosting a site like this. she would be brought before judicial tout' sweet.

we had a former member whose membership was revoked post derogatory remarks about the chapter on her aim and in person whenever she could. luckily the campus knew her reputation and didn't take what she said to heart and after a while she just sort of disappeared, because no one would listen to her. it was rough on the members for a while. there was really nothing we could do about her, except wait her out.

i would be surprised if the other sorority knows that they are supposedly endorsing this site. perhaps speaking to their president first and if nothing is done, speaking to their advisor and then taking them before panhellenic,would do the trick there. i don't know what you could do about the little sister org. i as sure that any complaints to the brothers would fall on deaf ears. perhaps taking a written complaint to the greek life advisor about that group would work.

roqueemae 06-01-2005 11:32 PM

Re: You are correct.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AXiDTrish
The issue is being escalated to determine how to best handle it.
escalated? or investigated?

WCUgirl 06-02-2005 08:50 AM

Re: Re: You are correct.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by roqueemae
escalated? or investigated?
I would assume she meant it's being escalated to "higher ups" in the proper GLOs or university departments.

BSUPhiSig'92 06-02-2005 11:28 AM

I would also point out that if it's an NIC fraternity's little sister group, their very existence is probably prohibited. So if the fraternity won't do anything about it, your nat'l hq can call the fraternitity's nat'l hq.

AXiDTrish 06-02-2005 01:11 PM

On The Move...
 
Investigation is virtually completed on the advisor level. Yes, it has been escalated to the sororities volunteer "high up's" as well as the paid staff.

The Greek Advisor is well aware of the "sweethearts" AKA little sister group, but he's attempted to get rid of it before and basically ended up in a screaming match with the fraternity president in front of the sororities (both) national reps. It was ugly and he lost virtually all credibility. Needless to say....nothing is happening with that.

I think that the only way he will do something with this entire situation is if it comes from the national org versus on the local level.

PsychTau2 06-02-2005 01:49 PM

Re: On The Move...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AXiDTrish
he's attempted to get rid of it before and basically ended up in a screaming match with the fraternity president in front of the sororities (both) national reps. It was ugly and he lost virtually all credibility. Needless to say....nothing is happening with that.
Interesting approach... :rolleyes:

Does this sweetheart group contain NPC members? Cause if it did, and I was a national rep for an NPC group, I'd tell each of my NPC members that they are not allowed to join or participate in this sweetheart group. Then as soon as I found out someone did it, I'd dismiss them from membership for insubordination. 'Cause I can play hardcore like that. :cool:

Seriously though, let us know what happens. This is rather interesting....are the groups on this campus very large? How large is the sweetheart group and what is it's makeup?

PsychTau

valkyrie 06-02-2005 01:55 PM

Link, please?

I'm kind of kidding, but not really. Like nobody else here was curious. ;)

pixell 06-02-2005 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Link, please?

I'm kind of kidding, but not really. Like nobody else here was curious. ;)

Haha..yeah. I understand why she can't post the link, but I still wish I could see it.

SurfinDBeach 06-02-2005 03:51 PM

Case...
 
That reminds me of Sigma Pi on our campus a few years back...

There was a disgruntled member who leaked "PRIVIED INFORMATION" to one of the student newspapers...

That included their grip, some symbols, and the motto translated...

Sigma Pi then proceeded to take the stacks of papers from all the stands...

Big controversy back then...

Most societies dread that...

I can tell you one thing- there would be hell to pay if someone were to mess with our information... Literally... :mad:

AXiDTrish 06-02-2005 04:30 PM

Sorry, not posting the link. Let's just say it's not the best PR move! There are no NPC members in the sweetheart group. 2 members from our chapter were prior to colonization, but after that they left.

The sweetheart group is comprised of member who would typically be sorority women. They are active on campus and with the fraternity. I'd say most are students from that campus, but there are women who are from other schools as well that are part of the group.

The sororities are small and work hard to grow their numbers. It is an amazing feat to watch!!! There are possibly 300-500 women on campus to recruit from (technical school). The fraternities range from 15 members to 50. 2 NPC, 5 (or 6) IFC, and 2 NPHC. I'd say the sweetheart group ranges from 10-20 depending on the time of year.

SAEalumnus 06-02-2005 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Link, please?

I'm kind of kidding, but not really. Like nobody else here was curious. ;)

I'm sure gossip and scandal would be strong motivating factors to want to puruse such a site, but I think this thread would be promptly deleted if a link were to actually be posted.

It's a shame that some people's lives are so bankrupt of real meaning and friendship that they have to waste their time tearing down a brotherhood or sisterhood shared and enjoyed by so many others. It kind of makes you wonder why they joined in the first place.

navane 06-03-2005 01:41 AM

Re: Case...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurfinDBeach
That reminds me of Sigma Pi on our campus a few years back...

There was a disgruntled member who leaked "PRIVIED INFORMATION" to one of the student newspapers...


Oh! I remember seeing that article! If I remember it correctly, it was a female who had taken advantage of the brother while he was drunk. According to her, she flirted with him for a bit and then he just blabbed away about their ritual. I believe she said that she wrote the article to show how stupid a fraternity member could be when drunk and when influenced by the promise of sex.

It wasn't a disgruntled member unless, of course, he lied in the article to cover his tracks. :confused: Oh well....what else would you expect from The Union?


.....Kelly :)

Alpha Sig Scott 06-03-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SAEalumnus
I'm sure gossip and scandal would be strong motivating factors to want to puruse such a site, but I think this thread would be promptly deleted if a link were to actually be posted.

It's a shame that some people's lives are so bankrupt of real meaning and friendship that they have to waste their time tearing down a brotherhood or sisterhood shared and enjoyed by so many others. It kind of makes you wonder why they joined in the first place.

Well said.

ADPiZXalum 06-03-2005 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
You cannot do anything by a former Member, but if this is true by a current Member, keep it filed for later use.

As the old saying goes, cover your booty!

This type of stuff does not Help Your Chapter. It could be a detrement for sure.

Sure they can....cancel her membership! I used to be the Director of Standardsa and Ethics and we had to cancel the memberships of women who had already graduated for different reasons.

33girl 06-03-2005 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
Sure they can....cancel her membership! I used to be the Director of Standardsa and Ethics and we had to cancel the memberships of women who had already graduated for different reasons.
The "former member" they are referring to has already been terminated/had membership cancelled. It's not a graduate.

ADPiZXalum 06-03-2005 05:36 PM

Oooohhhhhhh ok. Yea, not much you can do about her, the current member, give her the boot. I'm pretty sure that would violate just about everything you could think of.

flirt5721 06-03-2005 05:47 PM

The current member should have her membership suspended since she is contributing to "unsisterly like conduct". If she is and AXiD then she doen't stand for what AXiD stands for and doesn't deserve the right to be part of something as great as Alpha Xi Delta.

SurfinDBeach 06-03-2005 08:52 PM

Navane...
 
You're a GPhiB from our campus?

Are you still active, or alum?

Do you know KiKi (Kirsten)? She's alum now, but she's a big sis and lil sis of our house... She's seriously dating one of our recent alums too...

But yeah, the Union... Enough said...

I know, because I was a Sports Section staff member for the Daily 49er this past year... We talk smack on them all the time... LOL...

navane 06-04-2005 11:45 AM

Re: Navane...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SurfinDBeach
You're a GPhiB from our campus?

Are you still active, or alum?

I graduated from Long Beach State, but I'm an alumna initiate with the University of San Diego chapter.


Quote:


Do you know KiKi (Kirsten)? She's alum now, but she's a big sis and lil sis of our house... She's seriously dating one of our recent alums too...

Unfortunately, no. I don't know too many women from Gamma Eta chapter. :(


Quote:


But yeah, the Union... Enough said...

I know, because I was a Sports Section staff member for the Daily 49er this past year... We talk smack on them all the time... LOL...

I remember one of the guys who wrote for the Grunion was a child development major. The idea that he wrote such filthy "articles", and would then go and work with kids, always kind of bothered me. :)


Anyway, you should come to our GreekChat get-together in July! It's going to be in Long Beach!

.....Kelly :)

Optimist Prime 06-04-2005 10:20 PM

problems like this would be solved if you black balled the bitchy girls

LightBulb 06-05-2005 10:41 AM

I'm sure you already thought of this, but...
 
make sure you print the website before your Nationals gets involved, as the current member might delete it before they had a chance to read it.

pixell 06-05-2005 04:16 PM

Re: I'm sure you already thought of this, but...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LightBulb
make sure you print the website before your Nationals gets involved, as the current member might delete it before they had a chance to read it.
And save it as a website on your computer (in case you lose the printout)

AXiDTrish 06-09-2005 10:26 PM

YES!
 
The site is down!!! Amen!! Ahh.....the resources of the national organization. I am always amazed!

adpiucf 06-10-2005 10:25 AM

Congratulations on the site going down!


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