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preciousjeni 04-26-2005 06:15 PM

Horrified at Site - Is it just AKA?
 
I was looking at the UC-Berkeley Greek Life website (looking at all the CA Greeks for personal research)...

So, check this out:

http://www.calgreeks.com/chapters/nphc/aka.php

Take a look at the link for the "National Website." After checking that out, don't miss "Details."

Is this some kind of incredible joke? A hacker? What?????

33girl 04-26-2005 06:27 PM

My guess is that they needed to put something there as a placeholder and the site maintainer was too lazy/stupid to find a member of AKA and get the correct details.

Tom Earp 04-26-2005 06:29 PM

Maybe a lost domaine name for site.

God is this a big peice of crapola site!:mad:

Hell, got to hate cyber at times!:eek:

winnieb 04-26-2005 06:32 PM

My guess, there is more to it that laziness--- run your mouse over the national website and check the link. :(

preciousjeni 04-26-2005 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphagam-alum
My guess, there is more to it that laziness--- run your mouse over the national website and check the link. :(
GIRL - that's what I'm SAYIN!!! Dang! These folks have lost they minds!

I would personally contact the school but I think it would be more appropriate for a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha to handle it.

ms_gwyn 04-26-2005 06:35 PM

i'm sorry but that is tacky and incredibly disrespectful

someone needs a lot of discipline and taught to respect all glos no matter the conference.

SmartBlondeGPhB 04-26-2005 06:38 PM

That is definitely more than laziness.

But, a lot of their links are messed up. I looked at our page (from the panhel page) and the link "website" just goes back to the same page.........

sdblonde07 04-26-2005 06:41 PM

It's a little odd that they don't have the webmaster's email address listed anywhere on there to report mistakes...
Also odd is if you use the link to navigate to the NPC sororities' pages, they are all filled out with accurate information.

33girl 04-26-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphagam-alum
My guess, there is more to it that laziness--- run your mouse over the national website and check the link. :(
:eek:

YES, THAT IS SOMEONE BEING A GIANT JAGOFF.

non-greek newby 04-26-2005 07:41 PM

wOw!!!
 
Calling all AKA's!!!

Someone needs to do SOMETHING about this. I'm not really feeling the whores.com

roqueemae 04-26-2005 10:03 PM

How did you find this?!?!

preciousjeni 04-26-2005 10:29 PM

I was checking out sites for Greek Life in California and just happened upon this. I first started looking after reading an older thread about a fraternity that started recently at (I think) Berkeley. It's a BGLO called Theta Phi Psi if I recall correctly. But I don't see them recognized at Berkeley.

ETA: Aha! http://thetalife.com/

honeychile 04-26-2005 10:34 PM

I can live with clicking on the website brings you back to the website, but what was done to AKA is UNFORGIVABLE!!! It should be reported to the University AND to the Greek Office.

And if I were an AKA at USC, I would seriously consider a slander suit!

ETA: May I suggest that these Advisors be informed of the horror shared by all Greeks, in respectful, but adament tones? I already have.

Greek Affairs Advisors
Director of Greek Life
Tina Barnett
(510) 642-7950
barnett@berkeley.edu

Greek Advisor
Tiffany Jones
(510) 642-5709
thjones@berkeley.edu

honeychile 04-26-2005 10:45 PM

Btw, Jeni - thank you for bringing this to our attention. Maybe we as a Greek Community can make a difference!

preciousjeni 04-26-2005 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Btw, Jeni - thank you for bringing this to our attention. Maybe we as a Greek Community can make a difference!
I am very pleased to make it known. I would hope - nay - expect for anyone on GC to do the same for all of us!

ETA: I sent a note to the advisors...I didn't state my affiliation however.

honeychile 04-26-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by preciousjeni
I am very pleased to make it known. I would hope - nay - expect for anyone on GC to do the same for all of us!

ETA: I sent a note to the advisors...I didn't state my affiliation however.

I didn't note my affiliation, either, just that I was a member of an NPC sorority. Alpha Delta Pi's, please remember that you may NOT mention your affiliation without EO approval! I'm sure that other GLO's have the same caveat.

TSteven 04-26-2005 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile

Greek Affairs Advisors
Director of Greek Life
Tina Barnett
(510) 642-7950
barnett@berkeley.edu

Greek Advisor
Tiffany Jones ~NO LONGER WORKS AT CAL
(510) 642-5709
thjones@berkeley.edu

Since I live here in San Francisco, I called both numbers. Ms. Jones no longer works at Cal-Berkeley. Her replacement is Ms. Marcia Riley. I couldn't find an email address for her, but her phone number is 510.642.5753.

I left a very strong message as well. In a polite way of course. I suggested that they not only quickly remove or correct the offending links, but also get to the bottom as to what happened. I also made a point of saying that I found out about this via the GreekChat.com message board. And that others from all over the country are not only aware of this, but are very much outraged about it. (Hope to shame them into quick action.)

Edited to correct Ms. Riley's name and spelling.

honeychile 04-26-2005 11:53 PM

Good work, TStevens!! We Greeks have to get each others' back!

Peaches-n-Cream 04-26-2005 11:58 PM

This is just awful. I hope that they rectify it as soon as possible.

preciousjeni 04-27-2005 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TSteven
Since I live here in San Francisco, I called both numbers. Ms. Jones no longer works at Cal-Berkeley. Her replacement is Ms. Marsha Reilly (not sure of spelling.) I couldn't find an email address for her, but her phone number is 510.642.5753.

I left a very strong message as well. In a polite way of course. I suggested that they not only quickly remove or correct the offending links, but also get to the bottom as to what happened. I also made a point of saying that I found out about this via the GreekChat.com message board. And that others from all over the country are not only aware of this, but are very much outraged about it. (Hope to shame them into quick action.)

Hey all! When I tried to email Jones, I got this reply with Riley's email addy:

Quote:

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately I am no longer the Greek Advisor or advisor to the Cal in the Capital program at the University of California, Berkeley.

If you need assistance regarding fraternities and sororities, please contact Marcia Riley at mgriley@berkeley.edu or 510-642-5753.

If you need assistance regarding the Cal in the Capital program, please contact Sara Solloway at solloway@berkeley.edu or 510-642-8067.

It has been a pleasure working with all of you!

Tiffany Jones

TSteven 04-27-2005 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by preciousjeni
Hey all! When I tried to email Jones, I got this reply with Riley's email addy:
Oops! Marcia Riley! Thank goodness I had the mind to address her as Ms. Riley in my message.

winnieb 04-27-2005 12:17 AM

I tried to call too. I couldn't get a person, but the switchboard person gave me the main number to the Greek Life office, 510.642.5171

TSteven 04-27-2005 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphagam-alum
I tried to call too. I couldn't get a person, but the switchboard person gave me the main number to the Greek Life office, 510.642.5171
I recall that it rang for what seemed like 10 times (it was quite a few) before their "out of office" message kicked in.

ladygreek 04-27-2005 12:38 AM

Hmmmm interesting points from the site:

The site migrated to a new server last night.

The migration went seamlessly and all info from before should be viewable as if nothing happened. **So I wonder how long that AKA farce has been up.

The site is still under development to correct previous bugs and add new features so it will be the best campus Greek site in the world :rolleyes:

The home page says that all 9 NPHC orgs on campus, yet only AKA is listed on the NPHC page. **Makes me wonder if someone on the webteam is upset either with AKA or the entire NPHC?

Thanks to all of you for good looking out.

AKA2D '91 04-27-2005 08:43 AM

Merci!
 
This is an unfortunate situation. Thanks to everyone seeking assistance/answers. I'm sure the FWR Sorors will be looking into this situation.

Sistermadly 04-27-2005 08:47 AM

The page seems to be gone now...

Rudey 04-27-2005 12:10 PM

Humor.

-Rudey

TSteven 04-27-2005 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
The page seems to be gone now...
The whole link to the NPCH page has been removed. (doesn't work)

At this time, the link to IFC and Panhellenic pages still work. However, only 3 of 13 Panhellenic organization pages and 6 or 35 IFC organization pages have links to either their local web site or to their national site work. (Some groups may not have a local web site.)

starang21 04-27-2005 12:29 PM

berkeley k's = the bidness

honeychile 04-28-2005 09:49 PM

I received this feedback:


Dear Ms. Honeychile's Real Life Name;

Thank you for your concern. We recently had a change in server that resulted in this error. It has since been rectified. Thanks for your concern in letting us know, Marcia

At 06:46 AM 4/27/2005, you wrote:

Dear Ms. Riley;

Have you checked your Greek websites lately? I certainly hope you haven't! The message received when one clicks on Alpha Kappa Alpha's national website is beyond disasterous! It is an embarrassment to the Greek Community as a whole.

It was brought to my attention (and my sister's) through www.greekchat.com. What a shame that a major website would expose this before the Greek Advisors know about it.

By the way, I am not a member of AKA. I am an alumna of another NPC sorority, and am most disgusted by this.

Sincerely,
Honeychile's Real Life Name

(signature)
Marcia Gee Riley
Director
Student Involvement & Leadership Programs
Office of Student Life
University of California at Berkeley
102 Sproul Hall
Berkeley,CA 94720-2430
510-642-5753
510-642-1672 fax
mgriley@uclink.berkeley.edu

TSteven 04-28-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Thank you for your concern. We recently had a change in server that resulted in this error. It has since been rectified. Thanks for your concern in letting us know, Marcia
Do they equate "rectified" with nonexistent? Cause there still isn't any mention of - much less a link to - Alpha Kappa Alpha.

IMHO, for this situation to be "rectified", they need to offer an apology to Alpha Kappa Alpha and get the correct links up ASAP.

navane 04-29-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile

Thank you for your concern. We recently had a change in server that resulted in this error. It has since been rectified. Thanks for your concern in letting us know, Marcia


I'm sorry, but how is it that a "change in server" resulted in inapprpropriate content being posted in the AKA section??? That statement is almost as insulting. Marcia should have said something like, "We regret that this unfortunate situation occured. We have taken down the offending material and are currently conducting an investigation into this matter."


.....Kelly :)

ladygreek 04-30-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by navane
I'm sorry, but how is it that a "change in server" resulted in inapprpropriate content being posted in the AKA section??? That statement is almost as insulting. Marcia should have said something like, "We regret that this unfortunate situation occured. We have taken down the offending material and are currently conducting an investigation into this matter."


.....Kelly :)

Exactly!

honeychile 04-30-2005 06:01 PM

I completely agree with TSteven and navane. I was just reporting exactly what I received.

alphaalpha 04-30-2005 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by navane
I'm sorry, but how is it that a "change in server" resulted in inapprpropriate content being posted in the AKA section??? That statement is almost as insulting. Marcia should have said something like, "We regret that this unfortunate situation occured. We have taken down the offending material and are currently conducting an investigation into this matter."


.....Kelly :)

I do agree, but i think that the reason why they would not say this is because it would open them up to being responsible and therefor open to litigation.

ladygreek 04-30-2005 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaalpha
I do agree, but i think that the reason why they would not say this is because it would open them up to being responsible and therefor open to litigation.
True. But on the site itself they talked about the migration to a new server and how seamlessly it went and that eveything is as is was before. So does that mean the AKA stuff was on there before?

alphaalpha 05-01-2005 03:35 AM

Good question ladygreek. I just think that people will use things as an excuse. I didn't see the sights, don't really want to, but sometimes people will say how easy something was even though everything went wrong. Of course, i do not know, but it is just my opinion.

Debbie

TSteven 05-01-2005 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaalpha
I do agree, but i think that the reason why they would not say this is because it would open them up to being responsible and therefor open to litigation.
You are probably right. Yet, someone (or more than one) *is* responsible for the content of the site. (current and previous) And they should be held accountable.

alphaalpha 05-01-2005 08:30 PM

They should. The school (or whoever) is just trying to save their own behind and it would probably be really hard for someone not there to figure out who is responsible. I am just saying that cause probably the universities will not publiclly announce who is at fault to try to save themselves some bad press. If someone really wanted to put in the effort they could get something going. Personnally, i think that it is bad. Again from what i have heard as i did not see the sight. But i really have tons of other things going on to deal with something like this, nomatter how bad i think that it is. I do think this is how people can get away with stuff (really a topic for another thread) but when people are busy they can't really devote tons of time to holding someone accountable.

It is really unfortunate, however.

navane 05-02-2005 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alphaalpha
I do agree, but i think that the reason why they would not say this is because it would open them up to being responsible and therefor open to litigation.

Well, thank goodness someone had enough sense to put, "All information on this site is the intellectual property of the Interfraternity Council, Panhellenic Council and National Panhellenic Council of the the University of California, Berkeley. © 2005 - All rights reserved." right at the bottom of the webpage. Now we know exactly who to blame. Or perhaps Richard M. Weber, owner of calgreeks.com, would like to take responisibility for this?

I don't care what they say or don't say. Not giving a satisfactory response doesn't somehow make them less negligent.

.....Kelly :)


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