Turning whores into house-wives
 

All of us know the phrase "you can't turn a whoe into a house-wife", but I was wondering.....does the same thing apply to guys? What I mean is, do you think guys can run through so many chicks that sooner or later it'll be impossible for them to be husband material or incapable of having a successfull relationship? Or do you think the opposite? Do you think that it takes a guy running through his share of women before he is mentally capable of having a successfull marriage or even becoming husband material? I'm asking because I look at friends of mine who've had sex with well over 100 girls (and yes, their numbers are true) and a couple who've been with close to 200 and i look at them and I see how all of them say the same thing.....which is, "I don't have girlfriends anymore and never will" or "Marriage is out of the question for me."

Ive come to accept the fact that we are what we are. None of us will ever be able to stay faithfull to one woman alone for as long as we'll be married. That is, of course, for those in my circle that actually believe we'll settle down one day. I, personally, have not been able to stay faithfull since I was 12 years old. I must have got an extra testosterone gland in me because one vagina has never been enough. A couple of us, though, think we'll get married eventually because we believe the purpose of marriage to be for one reason and one reason alone.....and that is to have children. My friends share the same view as I on the issue of looking at women that are good for breeding. Some of us look at women who are very tall and have certain eye colors/hair colors and that is what we base our breeding criteria on while others in our circle look strictly at the girl's face when she doesnt have any make-up on and search for the ones who are extremely beautiful while having the best possible body....because even the ugliest bitches in the world can have the best looking body :rolleyes: If you don't believe in all that holy matrimony crap then I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. Those of you that do believe in holy matrimony, stop here!

Now with all that said, if you have a person who looks at marriage solely for the purpose of having kids....what do you say to them when you think they've hit the ultra point-of-no-return and they still want a kid. Like if this person is 35 years old and he actually does want a kid but he believes you should be married inorder to have a kid. For example, I have a friend named Tony. He's 35 but looks like he's 23. Ive known him for 7 years. He's kind of like an older brother to me. Since Ive known him he's banged at least 100 girls....and he's got me, personally, beat in age by 10 years. So his number is definitely around 200+ females, although he claims he didnt start getting dirty till he met me :rolleyes: His girlfriend lives with him in his condo in downtown O-town. He also has about 4 other fuck buddies and he's still picking up random females from downtown Orlando every now and then. Despite all that, he's wanting a kid. And he's serisouly thinking about knocking a woman up. Whoever he knocks up, he says, is who'll he'll marry. He's just like me in the sense that we both think we have to breed with 6 ft tall chicks, so he's seriously looking at this 6 foot 3 inch chick he met out in Orlando. She's white, blonde, big D titties and long legs. He looks just like Tiki Barber (the NFL player) but is 6'4....so I definitely can see why he wants to have a kid with this girl. I know he'll never be able to stay faithfull to a woman but right now I don't feel like this is the wisest thing for him to do.....but I really don't know what to say to him. For him, I kind of feel like telling him...."go ahead and do it" because his clock is ticking and I know whatever marriage he gets into he'll cheat in and it'll just end in divorce. He asked me and my friend Travis (my big/part-time roomie) what we thought about it. I don't know what to say. Travis told him he's crazy if he thinks that by knocking her up he'll get the kid because in Florida chicks usually always get the kid. Travis is anti-marriage so when Tony told him he'd ask her to marry him should he actually knock her up Travis flipped out and said he's crazy. Yet Travis is the one who thinks strippers are the only "down to earth-real girls out there" and we both think they're mostly soon to be crackheads if they already arent/ glorified prostitutes. Travis thinks he'll end up having a kid with a stripper one day but only after he's done playing professional football :rolleyes: meanwhile he's already had 5 abortions with strippers :rolleyes:

So, what are you thoughts on the questions asked?



-Cashmoney

I've known two former prostitutes who were able to escape their pimps, change their entire life around, and are both respectable wives. I'm sure it happens all the time - just like any other marriage, as long as two people are willing to do their best to make it work, it will.

I think for the right person anyone can change their wild ways. But there is no harm in enjoying yourself until you find the right one. :)

If you are going to marry someone be sure you love them. Marriage is hard and having kids together is even harder. (trust me!!!) If there isn't something (besides the height of the chic) to draw you together then your life together will be HELL!! No use living like that, it is not worth it. And not fair to the child either--- while having a genetically superior child is a benefit, having a mentally f'ed up kid is a huge draw back.

Do you plan on finding the perfect tall woman, marrying her, getting her pregnant, having the kid, then divorcing her and seeking custody? In many many states the father would have to be a saint and the mother a crack-whore before the father would get custody of the child. If you aren't in love but want a child-- hire a surrogate. You can select her based on your personal preferences, use your own baby batter and the baby is yours.

And as far as finding a "perfect" person to breed with-- I honestly think that is part of our genetic makeup. People of similiar looks/ characteristics tend to flock together-- I don't mean all blonde hair blue eyed people should hook up -- I mean beautiful people tend to attract beautiful people or smart people attract smart people. I think that happens for a reason--- it goes to that basic human desire to have sex, breed, to create a superior offspring.

-wendi

well it seems like the classic "male" syndrome of wanting a son to be just like him....I can't imagine men like this wanting daughters...that would just f*ck 'em up in the head too much.

I know that there are guys like this out there and I think marriage is the worst thing for them....unless some dramatic life changing action happens and they do a 180....otherwise, just stay a player for the rest of their lives...which leads to the obvious question...is he ready for the responsibility of fatherhood, the WHOLE nine yards and all the love and heartache that goes with being a parent.

I am doubtful of guys like this being in a committed, 1-women relationship, being a parent is entirely different kettle of fish.

Thats a good point. What would he do if he had a baby with this amazon goddess and it turned out to be a girl?

Wow, sounds like you have a lot on your mind !! :)

I would DEFINITELY not recommend getting married JUST to have a child!! Let me tell you from personal experience (I have an 11 month old baby), he is the love of my life, a wonderful baby, but ALOT of work!! If you have a child with someone you don’t love or even don’t like for that matter, you are bonded to that person FOREVER regardless if the marriage works or not. If someone goes into a marriage knowing they're not going to be faithful, knows they're going to have a lot of problems, etc. then why would you want to bring a child into all that? IMHO I truly believe that having a child is a privilege not a right.

But with that all said, I think people (including guys) can definitely change their ways, be faithful, and have a successful marriage and relationship as long as they WANT to. I have known quite a few people that were, well, let’s just call them “party animals”, then they calmed down, got married, had kids, and have been happy. But they wanted to change their ways. If they went into the marriage not wanting to be faithful, then I think there would be a lot of problems.

Buy a gun and guard the fuck out of her from guys like us. I'd still be the coolest pops out there, but she wont have a chance in hell to fuck as long as I'm in her life.

Prostitutes are a whole different ball game. They fuck for money. Its a job for them. That said, they can quit that job anytime they want and it wont phase them. Whats being talked about here is a way of life, eventually it takes over the individual (being a player) and it's all they really know. But I see what you're saying. And, I, still have hope that things can/will change the older everyone gets.

I dated a Marine who came back from Iraq and went a little crazy when he got home. A lot of drinking, a couple one night stands, a lot of wild nights out with his buddies.

Two months after he'd been back, he met me. Things were great, we fell in love, he didn't feel the drive to do crazy stuff anymore. Five months after we'd started dating, one of those one night stands called him.

She'd lied about being on the pill, she said, and was 7 months pregnant with his child. A DNA test after the child was born proved the Marine was the father, and it's been a nightmare for the poor guy ever since.

This girl. Has done nothing. But screw him over. I'm not with the guy anymore, but I talk to him every once in awhile, and it's always something different -- the mom filed for some crazy custody situation. Is threatening to sue him because he didn't pay any prenatal costs. Is threatening to move out of state. Wants the dad to date her. Says she's being thrown out of her place. Says she needs money to buy baby formula. Lots of lying, lots of heartache. She even tries to keep the guy from seeing his son, whenever she starts seeing a new guy.

This girl's still doing cocaine and working as a waitress and living off her parents. The guy's life has fallen apart -- he lost a great relationship with a great girl (haha, that'd be me), a *ton* of money on DNA tests, court costs, lawyer's fees, and child support -- and now he's 23, tied to a woman he hates for the next 18 years, and stuck in DC because if he moves anywhere else -- even as a career move! -- that ends his relationship with his kid.



What I'm trying to say is, please don't have a baby with a woman you're not in love with. It's guarenteed heartache. And the baby is pretty screwed -- that's not the home life a child deserves. No matter how together Daddy is, Mommy is a mess, and Mommy's set on making relations between Daddy and son a mess.

I think it is pretty doubtful for a man-whore to become a "one-woman-man" just b/c he wants to get married to have a kid.

If all he wants is a kid out of the deal, hire a surrogate mother.

Like alphagam-alum said, having a great-looking kid is one thing, but having that kid be messed up in the head b/c of Mommy & Daddy's nasty divorce, crazy custody battles and everything else is totally different.

There's something wrong with that comment. I can't put my fingers on it though... :confused:

Maybe because your dad was a little protective of you? You can bet your ass that if any of us have daughters we're going to be protective as hell when it comes to them. Thats something women can't and will never fully understand. We know what goes on in the minds of young men and when they're young nothing good is going through their minds when they think about girls.

I don't believe that married people keep that magical "in love" feeling very long. Most married people tell me that feeling goes away and that the reason why they stay married is because they're committed and not because they're "in love."

My thoughts exactly. I still have hope that change can take place. ;)

2 things...


1. There's no such thing as a man-whore. Guys can't be whores even if we tried. Its our inherent nature to want to fuck a lot.

2. Where the hell do you find surrogate mothers at? :confused:

Craig, I honestly believe that anyone, man or woman, can "settle down" once they meet the right person. By the right person, I mean the person who makes them WANT to settle down.

You're gonna be mad at me, but I can definitely see you one day tiring of being a man-about-town and settling down with a nice wife and having a family. WHEN you're ready and not one second before. I just think that you're nicer than you want us all to think. So there :)

Oh, and I think all guys are protective of their daughters. I know Mr. KR is going to be a nightmare come true for the boys who want to take our our girls!

I love this comment...because I think this is what my father thinks of us girls (all daughters)....at least when we were younger...now I don't think he really cares all that much. I was afraid to bring guys around my father.



But also the thing of it is....you can't stop nature....I have a pretty good idea how guys think, because I belief girls think the same way too (we are just bound by societal constraints to not voice those thoughts in any way shape or form and if we do, we are automatically labeled as sluts, whores, or whatever. But that is a different discussion and in this society….I don't see it changing anytime soon.)

It is good to be a protective father...just remember you can't stop nature and the cycle you could be starting with your daughter...she will rebel....in some not so nice ways

I really don't want to turn this into a male/female thing...but DUDE....get over yourself and your gender....

THIS IS A HUMAN THING...news for you....women like to have sex....A LOT...again...the society thing.

oh and guys can be whores...its not gender specific

I understand you believe that, but have you actually seen it happen?

That's what happened to me when I met my husband. :) I had sworn off men and didn't plan on even thinking about marriage until I was at least 30. I'm now 25 and just celebrated my 3rd anniversary.

I don't think I would have graduated from college if I hadn't of met my husband. I was heading down the wrong path very quickly!

lol :D Well don't make it into a male/female thing.


I never said women don't like to have sex. After they get turned out once they love having sex. When I said its our inherent nature I was referring to the fact that guys usually want to have sex earlier in life than females. Guys usually want to lose thier virginity while females tend to have reservations when it comes to giving it up for the first time. When you have a 14 or 15 year old boy who wants a piece of ass as often as he can get it, how the hell can you say he's a man-whore? Thats our inherent nature. Women usually have to be turned out by at least one guy before they start fucking a lot whether you admit it or not.

Its like this......

With men there are only 2 pieces of ass in our lives, the first and the last. Everything in between is like extra gravy at Thanksgiving, you don't really need it but you never turn it down.


Cashmoney

Christian Science?

-Rudey

Hahaha!

Lol, yeah, that's it! Tom Cruise converted me!

Wait is he a Christian Scientist or a Christian Scientologist?

-Rudey
--I still remember those commercials for Ron Hubbard's book on tv every 5 minutes

Oh, my bad, I think he's a Scientologist. I remember that parts of The Firm were filmed in the Scientology buildings in Clearwater, FL.

I remember those commercials too. They showed the book all close up and while they panned out they were playing that really intense music. And don't forget the "L." that goes before "Ron" - he was the first person that I ever heard of that had an initial for his first name.

I didn't know if it was L or El. Like El Ron Hubbard makes him sound like he's a Spanish heart throb.

-Rudey

They are out there-- not sure where to find one. An adoption attorney might know of one. Maybe an alternative style newspaper.... Google the topic I am sure you can find plenty--- although your choices might be limited, not sure how many 6' tall surrogates are out there.
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Keep in mind her family history too-- what if she is the just the freak of the family and is really tall, but passed along her "short genes". And there are always the girls who are short, but have tall families who end up with tall kids. Genetics can do crazy things.... remember you are tall (I said it 6'4" is tall ;) ) your children will carry half of your genetic makeup, so they will be more than likely not be short. How tall do you want your child?

Hell Craig there are days when my boys act like shits and I would love to ship them off-- how about I send them to you---- tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, good looking kids (if i get to say that), and a 6 yr old that is already obsessed with his looks and physical apprearance. He does sit ups after dinner to avoid getting a tummy, he does push ups to make his arms bigger and about once a week asks me "how many packs do i have" ~~to translate--the kid thinks he needs a 6pack at 6yrs old.


edited to add: OMG I just offered Craig my son!!

Forget about the whole "can it be done", but why would you want to take some trash and recycle it when you can buy a brand new product?

-Rudey

I politely disagree :)

I've known my husband 10 years now (YIKES!) and it's still quite magical. BUT we have to work hard at it. It's not the same kind of "new" magical love feeling, but still magical nonetheless.

It's all about finding the right person.

Better watch out Craig....my OWN father was a man whore back in the day. Guess what happened?

He got FIVE very wild daughters... :D

my point about having a kid with a woman you're not in love with is, things can get VERY tangled VERY quickly.

If you're married, usually a couple is willing to work together a little more -- same with a boyfriend/girlfriend who have a kid. There's a relationship at stake outside the parenting.

You want to be able to focus on raising the kid, NOT on a bitter custody battle with a woman you barely know.


Cosign on a surrogate mother or adoption.

Is this thread beyond a joke? There are two things I can think of right now that would end my good life at my age:

1) Losing all my limbs and living in a potato sack
2) Having a kid

-Rudey

This entire thread makes me wanna throw up, by the way. Thanks, guys.

Children give me nightmares. :(

Also, I don't know what I believe about whether or not someone can change their ways, ie become a one woman man after being with a million women at the same time. My thing is, why would I even be attracted, much less want to have CHILDREN with someone who had a past like that? Yuck! I'd like to stay STD free thankyouverymuch. (And yes I realize that promiscuous (sp?) women and men don't ALL have STD's but their chances are clearly much higher)

not so much nightmares....its that I just don't want any....

oh well......

and I will stop right there, since this is a public forum.

I don't know what I believe as to whether a promiscuous person (of either sex) could settle down with a single long-term partner. I'd say it's unlikely... it would have to be the right people at the right time.

I myself would be very wary of entering into a possible long-term monogamous relationship with a man known for his promiscuity. All that means is that I'm not the right woman to settle down with a man who's had 100+ partners.

I agree that it's a bad idea to get married simply to have a child. Marriage is about more than children.

Slight hijack: HotDamnImAPhiMu's post back on page 1 drives home an important lesson. If you're engaging in promiscuous sex, or even not-so-promiscuous sex, USE A CONDOM. A man never knows if a woman is lying about being on the pill. The pill has a certain failure rate. Plus, the pill and most other BC methods offer no protection against sexually transmitted diseases.

I have, yes. Mr. KR and I are friends with a couple, both of whom were beyond whorish before they got married. I mean, she would have one "date" leaving through the back dore while date #2 was ringing the front doorbell. And, 10 years after the fact, his bachelor party is still legendary.

You'd never know that now, however. He's a lobbyist in D.C. and coaches his kids' sports teams she's a soccer mom complete with Range Rover. And they seem really settled down and content.

Sometimes you just need to get stuff out of your system

I was like that with that quarterback John Elway. Before I saw his name in written form, I could never figure out if he was named "John Elway", "Johnell Way" or "John L. Way".

A certain small percentage of relationships stay in the kind of love that we think of as infautation.

You can usually tell because they act like adolescents around each other, a lot of affectionate playful touching and generally can make watchers a little nauseous.

Personally, I think thats what a true romance is and would think it appropriate to leave someone that you no longer felt like that towards.

What I am not sure of is whether that type of couple has an uncommon bond or just incredible social skills.