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Non-black Aka Wiggers/ Ricans Using The N-word

RECENTLY WHILE ON THE SHUTTLE AT MY SCHOOL GOING TO CLAS THERE WAS A WHITE GUY (HE DIDNT KNOW HE WAS WHITE) WHO WAS TALKING TO SOME BLACK GUYS ABOUT SOME RANDOM TOPIC AND THEN I HEARD "YO THOSE NIGGA'S BE TRIPPIN" I APPROACHED HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT PERSONALLY I WAS OFFENED BY HIM USING ANY VARATION OF NIGGER. I TOLD HIM THAT THE HISTORY OF THAT WORD IS A PAINFUL HISTORY AND WHETHER HE ACCPECTS IT OR NOT HIS ANCESTOR DIRECT OR NOT PROBALLY USED THAT WORD TO DEGRADE ANCESTORS OF MINE. hE SAID HE DIDNT SAY THE N-WORD AND NIGGA IS A GOOD THING HE DOESNT MEAN THE RACISIT WORD. ALSO RICANS AT MY SCHOOL THINK IT'S OK TO USE THE N-WORD TOO. WHAT IS THIS EVERYBODY WHO HAS BLACK FRIENDS OR WHO WERE AROUND BLACK PEOPLE GET A FREE PASS TO USE A WORD CLOSE TO NIGGER. WHAT ARE UR THOUGHTS

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
RECENTLY WHILE ON THE SHUTTLE AT MY SCHOOL GOING TO CLAS THERE WAS A WHITE GUY (HE DIDNT KNOW HE WAS WHITE) WHO WAS TALKING TO SOME BLACK GUYS ABOUT SOME RANDOM TOPIC AND THEN I HEARD "YO THOSE NIGGA'S BE TRIPPIN" I APPROACHED HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT PERSONALLY I WAS OFFENED BY HIM USING ANY VARATION OF NIGGER. I TOLD HIM THAT THE HISTORY OF THAT WORD IS A PAINFUL HISTORY AND WHETHER HE ACCPECTS IT OR NOT HIS ANCESTOR DIRECT OR NOT PROBALLY USED THAT WORD TO DEGRADE ANCESTORS OF MINE. hE SAID HE DIDNT SAY THE N-WORD AND NIGGA IS A GOOD THING HE DOESNT MEAN THE RACISIT WORD. ALSO RICANS AT MY SCHOOL THINK IT'S OK TO USE THE N-WORD TOO. WHAT IS THIS EVERYBODY WHO HAS BLACK FRIENDS OR WHO WERE AROUND BLACK PEOPLE GET A FREE PASS TO USE A WORD CLOSE TO NIGGER. WHAT ARE UR THOUGHTS

Rather interesting perspective you have considering your choice of terms to use in the title.

My question would be is it ok for Black people to call each other by that name???? (And yes I have the right to ask the question, I am a black female)

Ditto what Laidback said.

And I think it was here on GC where I brought this up a while ago. My question, though, was based on the fact that I heard people calling each other the N-word. Indians to Indians, Latinos to Latinos, even White to White.

The bottom line is that WE have made it okay to use the word as a "term of familial expression." So I hope you would also chastize another Black person the same way.

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Originally posted by ykimber
My question would be is it ok for Black people to call each other by that name????

If we want to. I do not think it should be used in mixed company.

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Originally posted by ladygreek
The bottom line is that WE have made it okay to use the word as a "term of familial expression." So I hope you would also chastize another Black person the same way.

Anyone who thinks the N word is SIMPLY a term of familial expression has little understanding of the origin and transformation of the term.

I wouldn't chastise a black person for using it depending on how and where it was used.

I have white colleagues who study Black linguistics and they have used the term around me before. These people do not use the term regularly or with ease. So, I understand the context in which THEY were using it. If they get too comfortable, I will let them know to stop using the term.

Other groups of people have terms that they use around and to each other but would be offended if non-members use it. The difference may be that these people do not use the term in movies and in the open.

But, I wouldn't dare tell whites, Hispanics, or anyone else what they can or can not say to EACH OTHER.

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Originally posted by laidbackfella
Rather interesting perspective you have considering your choice of terms to use in the title.

I agree.

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the reason i used the terms in the title that i used was to show that these are what the people who use it are. WHite people dont say nigga, wiggers say it. Is wiggers Polictically correct no, but it proves a point, that term is not pleasing to ears of white people who act as if they are black, just as the term nigga is not pleasing to me. But i do understand what some of u are saying, i dont think blacks should use the term either, BUT if they do chose to use it why not. We are known for taking negatives and turning them into positives.

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Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Anyone who thinks the N word is SIMPLY a term of familial expression have little understanding of the origin and transformation of the term.

I wouldn't chastise a black person for using it depending on how and where it was used.

I have white colleagues who study Black linguistics and they have used the term around me before. These people do not use the term regularly or with ease. So, I understand the context in which THEY were using it. If they get too comfortable, I will let them know to stop using the term.

Other groups of people have terms that they use around and to each other but would be offended if non-members use it. The difference may be that these people do not use the term in movies and in the open.

But, I wouldn't dare tell whites, Hispanics, or anyone else what they can or can not say to EACH OTHER.

You said it what I meant, but more clearly. (And dang I always misspell chastise :( ). I was trying to convey to Philly that if he feels that way about the term then he should be an equal opportunity chastiser.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
the reason i used the terms in the title that i used was to show that these are what the people who use it are. WHite people dont say nigga, wiggers say it. Is wiggers Polictically correct no, but it proves a point, that term is not pleasing to ears of white people who act as if they are black, just as the term nigga is not pleasing to me. But i do understand what some of u are saying, i dont think blacks should use the term either, BUT if they do chose to use it why not. We are known for taking negatives and turning them into positives.

There is so much I want to say in response to your ignorance.

1) You were jumpin into their conversation. Some folks would have stomped you out on the shuttle a la "Menace II Society" style.

2) Based on what you've shared previously about your roots, you have some white in your blood as well. Dad's italian right? Since you are part of that group that doesn't know that they are white either and you are holding folks accountable for what their ancestors said, you should lead by example. Send today's closing value of 40 acres and a mule to me via PayPal at laidbackfella at hotmail dot com

3) Regardless of how you feel about something someone said on a shuttle, adding a whole bunch of extra in the title in an attempt to make a point doesn't make a point. It makes you look stupid. Making a point makes a point.

4) Please refrain from using the African American inclusive "we" until you can consistently submit intelligent and thought out posts. Since "we", African Americans, are known for taking negatives and turning them into positives, you are on a "we", as in African American inclusive, probation until, and possibly after, "we", African Americans, can positively verify your intelligence.

5) And I'm sure that most who are aware of your posts on this board will agree with me when i say,

STOP USING THE ALPHA FORUM AS YOUR PERSONAL BLOG

Try www.xanga.com instead.

Thank you for your support.

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Originally posted by laidbackfella
4) Please refrain from using the African American inclusive "we" until you can consistently submit intelligent and thought out posts. Since "we", African Americans, are known for taking negatives and turning them into positives, you are on a "we", as in African American inclusive, probation until, and possibly after, "we", African Americans, can positively verify your intelligence.

**giggle**

I'm just glad that you ran into a Vanilla Ice-like "wigger", instead of an Eminem-type "wigger"

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Originally posted by laidbackfella
There is so much I want to say in response to your ignorance.

1) You were jumpin into their conversation. Some folks would have stomped you out on the shuttle a la "Menace II Society" style.

2) Based on what you've shared previously about your roots, you have some white in your blood as well. Dad's italian right? Since you are part of that group that doesn't know that they are white either and you are holding folks accountable for what their ancestors said, you should lead by example. Send today's closing value of 40 acres and a mule to me via PayPal at laidbackfella at hotmail dot com

3) Regardless of how you feel about something someone said on a shuttle, adding a whole bunch of extra in the title in an attempt to make a point doesn't make a point. It makes you look stupid. Making a point makes a point.

4) Please refrain from using the African American inclusive "we" until you can consistently submit intelligent and thought out posts. Since "we", African Americans, are known for taking negatives and turning them into positives, you are on a "we", as in African American inclusive, probation until, and possibly after, "we", African Americans, can positively verify your intelligence.

5) And I'm sure that most who are aware of your posts on this board will agree with me when i say,

STOP USING THE ALPHA FORUM AS YOUR PERSONAL BLOG

Try www.xanga.com instead.

Thank you for your support.

I agree with everything you said LaidBack!

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i prefer you use PUERRTO RICAN if you are going to call someone out.

you really need to read some history man.

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Originally posted by abaici
**giggle**

I'm just glad that you ran into a Vanilla Ice-like "wigger", instead of an Eminem-type "wigger"

Yeah, because he wouldn't have been here to make the thread. :rolleyes:

This person is becoming more and more suspect to me. Are you from Chit Chat or Greek Life? lol

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I don't see anything wrong with his question or his posting on the avenue - - - we don't have to agree with him or answer his questions -

If this young man says he's black then who are we to question it - - - we are all part something

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Originally posted by Professor
I don't see anything wrong with his question or his posting on the avenue - - - we don't have to agree with him or answer his questions -

If this young man says he's black then who are we to question it - - - we are all part something

And if folx didn't respond back with their feelings, it wouldn't be a message board--would it?

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Originally posted by Professor
no comment - see:D

:p :D

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Ok first of all how dare you tell me what I'm allowed to talk about on any forum? Just because this forum is an Alpha forum, who thought you could only talk about Alpha things. I assumed that this board was somewhere for me to be able to talk about topics I would appreciate hearing other people's perspective on certain issues. As for my intelligence, I don’t think you are any smarter than I am and how dare you tell me that I can’t use "we" because I am of mixed background. If you were somewhere and someone said something that offended you I’d hope you'd be man enough and mature enough to say something. I didn’t start a fight with this guy; I didn’t "cuss" this guy out. I feel like you believe for some idiotic reason that you're better than me or know more than I do, but I’m letting you know you don’t. I've seen some nasty sides of you ALL on this board and you all really take yourselves too seriously. My father’s family never owned slaves at any point in history. And the fact that you made that comment shows how unintelligent you are because you assumed such a thing. I know my history, both sides. Find out who you are and don’t ever call yourself degrading me BROTHER!

ALSO: Soltanto il dio può giudicarlo

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Professor.

Can I curse?

Lemme try to respond without cursin.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
Ok first of all how dare you tell me what I'm allowed to talk about on any forum?

I told you.

What are you gonna do about it?

All these random @$$ topics.

You're interested in Alpha Phi Alpha.

We get it.

Masturbate in the privacy of your own blog.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
Just because this forum is an Alpha forum, who thought you could only talk about Alpha things.

Talkin about any subject isn't a problem.

As stated by Professor.

You posted a topic.

I chose to respond.

It's a messageboard two step that happens quite often.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I assumed that this board was somewhere for me to be able to talk about topics I would appreciate hearing other people's perspective on certain issues.

You are getting nothing less than what you expected.

Not everyone will be up in arms based on what you post.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
As for my intelligence, I don’t think you are any smarter than I am

Who cares what you think?

Your sentence structure and spelling errors are indicative of some of your ability.

Topic selection is another strong indicator.

Reading Skills are subpar as evidenced by your next sentence.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
and how dare you tell me that I can’t use "we" because I am of mixed background.

Read better, smart guy.

When I said:

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That was a play on words.

I was definitely talking about your mixed background when I said:

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Originally posted by laidbackfella
2) Based on what you've shared previously about your roots, you have some white in your blood as well. Dad's italian right? Since you are part of that group that doesn't know that they are white either and you are holding folks accountable for what their ancestors said, you should lead by example. Send today's closing value of 40 acres and a mule to me via PayPal at laidbackfella at hotmail dot com

How does your Dad feel about you using that "W" word is the better question to pose.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
If you were somewhere and someone said something that offended you I’d hope you'd be man enough and mature enough to say something.

I would if they said it about me or to me.

I live in the south.

Home of the "Strange Fruit".

So I've "checked" more than my fair share folks of all shades about their use of any variation of that word.

Thanks for asking Mr Revoluntionary.

*raising fist in the air*

*with one finger extended*

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I didn’t start a fight with this guy; I didn’t "cuss" this guy out.

You should have..

Now THAT actually would have been worth reading.

You act as if this is the first time you've heard the word.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I feel like you believe for some idiotic reason that you're better than me or know more than I do, but I’m letting you know you don’t.

philly wan a cookie?

I don't know what you know or care what you feel.

Better is relative.

Knowledge is subjective.

But my worst posts are better than yours.

Even on your best day.

With all your fancy edits.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I've seen some nasty sides of you ALL on this board and you all really take yourselves too seriously.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40.../extra/hug.gif

You treat this forum as if it's "your" spot to chill.

You tell "Grad" Alphas they suck.

You feel that you are entitled to be an Alpha because you want it, not because you are deserving.

You spit in the face of Greeks giving you good information.

MY problem is that you as an interest don't take us serious enough.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
My father’s family never owned slaves at any point in history. And the fact that you made that comment shows how unintelligent you are because you assumed such a thing.

But you assumed things about the original offending dudes family.

Remember when you said:

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I TOLD HIM THAT THE HISTORY OF THAT WORD IS A PAINFUL HISTORY AND WHETHER HE ACCPECTS IT OR NOT HIS ANCESTOR DIRECT OR NOT PROBALLY USED THAT WORD TO DEGRADE ANCESTORS OF MINE.

Why should you get a pass from being the victim of random generalizations?

By the way have you met the Pot?

He's 100% Black.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
I know my history, both sides.

CHEERS.

Most of the other posters here know their family history too.

Is that supposed to lend your rambling some sort of credibility?

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
Find out who you are and don’t ever call yourself degrading me BROTHER!

Actually I know who I am.

I call myself laidbackfella.

And I call em like I see em.

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
ALSO: Soltanto il dio può giudicarlo

Judge deez.

All I'm going to say is check out the Change of Heart thread in Kappa Korner and the location of the poster. And y'all wonder why I have been suspect of this dude?

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Originally posted by ladygreek
All I'm going to say is check out the Change of Heart thread in Kappa Korner and the location of the poster. And y'all wonder why I have been suspect of this dude?

What are u talking about. I just read that post and thats not me at all. My interest has AlWAYS lied with Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity and will until the day if ever it should come that i am welcomed in this great brotherhood of intelligent and distinguished men. I was never an interest in Kappa Alpha Psi and will never be because that is not where my heart lies. SO if you want to believe that i am that person, please go ahead. Not every aspirant on this board is out to trick you all.

breaking news...identity theft reported! (lol)

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Originally posted by phillyinterest6
What are u talking about. I just read that post and thats not me at all. [...] I was never an interest in Kappa Alpha Psi and will never be because that is not where my heart lies. SO if you want to believe that i am that person, please go ahead.

dude, did you know there's someone out there who is born 20 days after you, in the year of Our Lord 1985, who also lives in philadelphia??

OMG!!! :eek:
...and the most frightening part is that he ALSO has the same "biography, occupation and interests"!!

:eek: scary!

hmm...on second thought, maybe you just have a long lost twin! :D

sir, all jokes aside, please try to do better. in the future, just be yourself.

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And there you have it folx. Thank you for coming. The show is over. :rolleyes:

Another one bites the dust - - - :D