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Munchkin03 03-20-2005 04:07 PM

5-Year Old Arrested in Florida
 
The story from ABC News

According to the mother, "They set my baby up."

cutiepatootie 03-20-2005 07:38 PM

Now arresting a 5 yr old for apparently having a temper tantrum is a little hardcore.....there is a sure fire way to handle that..... call mom and have her give a swift paddling of the behind ...not traumatize a child by being taken away with cuffs on both wrist and ankles and taken in a squad car......

Optimist Prime 03-20-2005 11:26 PM

I think the officers who cuffed her should be shot by the mother.

mmcat 03-21-2005 12:57 AM

that's a bit ridiculous...

SATX*APhi 03-21-2005 01:03 AM

I read about this yesterday and thought it was a bit much. She's FIVE YEARS OLD!!

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-21-2005 01:44 AM

*deep breath*

ok. first off. 5 years old.

a> counseling sessions with school counselor on appropriate classroom behavior. If counselor believes student needs more counseling, recommend a free/low-cost counseling service.

b> Social Service visit with parent(s). If child is THAT outraged at 5years old, check to make sure the homelife is running smoothly. Set mother up in services that provide parenting classes and family-based anger/stress management.

KillarneyRose 03-21-2005 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutiepatootie
.....there is a sure fire way to handle that..... call mom and have her give a swift paddling of the behind ...

Unfortunately though, if the quote Munchkin pointed out is any indication, mom doesn't think her daughter did anything wrong.

I'd have to say this behavior was more than a mere temper tantrum. My kids have had temper tantrums and they mostly consist of throwing themselves on the floor and screaming. Not assault. It sounds like this poor child has problems, and her mother's enabling behavior is not going to help her down the road :(

krazy 03-21-2005 04:52 PM

There were no charges pressed, so she wasn't really arrested.

This day in age, that is probably what teachers HAVE to do for risk of being sued. If I were a teacher, I would call the police too. If a kid is hitting people and throwing things around, you cannot tackle the kid yourself, and obviously that mother is a headcase. "They set my baby up" What the hell is that? She would sue any teacher that touched the kid. Teachers probably knew that.

They did the right thing by calling the cops. I applaud them.

cutiepatootie 03-22-2005 12:12 AM

Krazy........ the child was 5 yrs old. there is protecting oneself as a teacher , but to add more fuel to fire if the child has already developed emotional problems to cause outburst like this ,this will only add more trauma by being taken away in cuffs in a squad car........I was 5 and was called to the princapals office for something i saw and was questined by the princiapl, my dad ,and a police officer .... the police officer only scared me more so just imagaine what this did to the child....plus, the school officials were not happy by this at all from what the article mentioned.

James 03-22-2005 12:36 AM

She's a 5 year old child . . . about the same size as a Chucky Doll . . . sans the homicidal killing spree. Would you be afraid of a Chucky doll?

Quote:

Originally posted by krazy
There were no charges pressed, so she wasn't really arrested.

This day in age, that is probably what teachers HAVE to do for risk of being sued. If I were a teacher, I would call the police too. If a kid is hitting people and throwing things around, you cannot tackle the kid yourself, and obviously that mother is a headcase. "They set my baby up" What the hell is that? She would sue any teacher that touched the kid. Teachers probably knew that.

They did the right thing by calling the cops. I applaud them.


ZTAMich 03-22-2005 12:55 AM

Re: 5-Year Old Arrested in Florida
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
The story from ABC News

According to the mother, "They set my baby up."

Good for the school.

It's not so simple to just 'try and help' with outside services and sometimes I do believe the police need to be called in for help when it's clear a situation is out of control, as it appears it was in this case. This was probably not the first tantrum, nor the first time the mom thinks her "baby" was "set up". Glad they are trying to keep this child safe from her own actions, as well as keeping the safety of the teacher and other students in mind.

--now i have to get some rest so I can go teach 18 4&5yr olds tomorrow....

krazy 03-23-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
She's a 5 year old child . . . about the same size as a Chucky Doll . . . sans the homicidal killing spree. Would you be afraid of a Chucky doll?
I see your point, but you don't know how out of control the child might have been. If a 5 year old is throwing things at people, you have to physically restrain the child. Obviously the teacher felt she/he could not do this. So she called the right people.

Listen, there is something else going on here. The mom is a wacko. I bet they knew not to restrain the child, due to something exhibited by the mother earlier on in the year, etc.

Cutie, I am sure you survived your trauma with the principal, and I am sure this child will survive this whole ordeal as well.

At least she knows what happens if she goes crazy, and hopefully she won't do it again.

amycat412 03-23-2005 06:11 PM

The child could be bi polar, ADD, ADHD, etc and the outburst a result of THAT. And really, IMO teachers should have a bit of training on how to deal with that. My nephew is bi-polar, has outbursts from time to time and the teacher, tho well aware of his condition, routinely disciplines him/throws him out of class. Yes, kids need to be disciplined, but disciplining someone in the middle of a rage they cannot control does not work. Maybe he's just had particularly insensitive teachers, but no one in my family has been impressed with how he's been handled in school.

TheEpitome1920 03-23-2005 06:20 PM

What the HAYLE is going on in Florida??? All these incidents are making me a little nervous.

Kevin 03-23-2005 07:08 PM

The 5 year old should be tried as an adult.

AKA_Monet 03-23-2005 07:46 PM

KT--- you are not right for that... :rolleyes:

For the most part, it sounds like the teacher did not want to deal with this child and her outbursts, today... Sounds like this kid had them before, but not to this degree and not to the point that the teacher could not manage to kick the child out of the classroom to the prinicipal's office.

I think the mother lives in denial that her little "angel" is a little "hellion" in class. My mother (a retired principal of an elementary school) and my brother, as well as his wife have had to deal with lunatic children... Usually, they can be controlled by either the principal or school police.

It sounds like there is more to this story and it smells like this child is a substance abuser baby... Ain't no way she actin' like the Taz, in the classroom so much so the teacher feels threatened and calls the regular police...

Maybe this will scare the kid straight?

What if she was in an severely emotionally disturbed classroom? I could have set off the other kids in that kind of classroom.

Kevin 03-24-2005 12:43 AM

Perhaps the teacher is trying to get the attention of social services? I don't know how hard it is to get them to open an investigation down there, but I imagine that this would be one way.

It is interesting how the mom comes up with these luny conspiracy theories... yeah, the teacher "set up" the 5 year old.. Sure.

AKA_Monet 03-24-2005 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Perhaps the teacher is trying to get the attention of social services? I don't know how hard it is to get them to open an investigation down there, but I imagine that this would be one way.

It is interesting how the mom comes up with these luny conspiracy theories... yeah, the teacher "set up" the 5 year old.. Sure.

Maybe the teacher did have an earnest heart... But it sounds like she or he did not want to DEAL with that child and her problems that day...

Throwing books around at somebody's head when you have a headache and you've taken Imitrex, is not helping this child's situation...

So HAYLE, if the teacher did try everything within his or her power to get the correct authorities from the school to do something and they school failed in that department, then if I was the teacher, I'd call the regular police on my cell phone too... EFF that!

As far as conspiracy theories, then why didn't the mother put a FOOT up that child's azz? That chile needed an azz whoopin' with an extension cord, throwin' a fit or "temper tantrum" like that in class--you are heerah to learn!!! Dammit!!! Sit cho azz down and shaddup!! Befo' I break my FOOT off in dat azz!!!

I'm sorry, but some of "OUR" kidz need FOOTS up in dat azz... That's the ONLY way they can understand...

Kevin 03-24-2005 05:29 PM

You must be/will make a great parent. :D

This country would be a much nicer place had Dr. Spock never written any books about sparing the rod.

pinkyphimu 03-25-2005 01:34 AM

as a special educator who has been hit, kicked, bitten, had desks thrown at her, etc.....from kindergarten aged students to adults aged 30, this child probably has some type of disability that her mom is completely denying.

at least here in mass., teachers have the right to restrain a child who is out of control provided that there is imminent danger to the child or to others. i could give a zillion other things to do, but since the momma sounds like a nut job, i guess this has probably happened before and she doesn't do anything to help.

and what is happening in fl? in the other substantially seperate classroom, there are several children who have moved here from fl. most of their parents are uninvolved in their education, but don't deny there is something wrong with them.

Kevin 03-25-2005 02:14 AM

I subbed an autistic class once. We had a room with padded walls that would seal with magnetic power when you held the red button down.

All classrooms need that.


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