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When did BGLOs became apart of the NPHC
As I was researching I begain thinking :)
I know when the black greek lettered organizations (or Divine 9) were founded, but when did they join the National pan-hellenic council? |
The NPHC was established in 1930 at Howard University.
http://nphchq.org/ <----- Unfortunately, the NPHC site is down today. |
My understanding is that they WE ARE NOT affiliated with the pan-hellenic council of predominately white sororities and fraternities.
I would hasten to add as, it is my understanding that at least for the first two black letter greek organizations, they were founded because they couldn't get into the white ones. |
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What is it with all this racial tension on GC lately? It's not the 60s or anything last time I checked. |
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And there's no council that governs both the sororities and fraternities of what you call predominantly white groups. They each have their own governing council |
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But then again it's expected when they don't even know who they're debating with. :) Anyway, as new members we were taught the difference between Panhellenic and Pan-Hellenic, and we all know the difference is more than just the hyphen and capital H. |
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I believe that KAPsi is a member of the NIC. Other than that, no historically black GLO's are members of the NIC or NPC (the two major groups that represent regular GLO's)
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The orgs that make up the "Divine 9" belong to the NPHC, which is the National Pan-Hellenic Council. While the "predominately white sororities" you talk about belong to the NPC, which is the National Panhellenic Conference. And the "predominately white fraternities" you talk about belong to the NIC, which is the North-American Interfraternity Conference. Also, saying "predominately white" for either the NPC or NIC is an incorrect assumption. Since in the orgs in NPC do not restrict membership to just white women. And at least 8 (that I personally know of - there may be more) fraternities that are in NIC are either African-American, Latino, or Asian based. I'm not trying to flame, I'm just trying to help educate. |
Because I'm in a snarky mood and it's been irritating the crap outta me.
Apart does not = a part. |
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Stop trying to stir crap up on the sly. |
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I wanted to comment on that. It's interesting that people are accusing others of prejudice yet fail to acknowledge their own. Labeling the NPC and NIC "regular" is very telling. |
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I can understand the tendency to do that because non-LGLO and non-BGLOs outnumber the BGLOs and LGLOs and are older. That is one rationale. |
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brains are so sexy.
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^^ Serial brainist. He is evil and must be stopped. |
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The foundings of BGLOs as a whole are partially rooted in being excluded from predominantly white GLOs. I urge you to do some extensive research about this. Racial and ethnic minorities, when given the opportunity, often branch out to form affiliations and networks with non-racial and ethnic minorities. They maintain their group ties (which is why people congregate with those who look like them) but they also wish to take advantage of other opportunities. This is why the centrality and the influence of the Black Church, BGLOs, and orgs like the The Urban League have decreased over the years. People have more options now. That is "racial and ethnic inequality 101." |
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You're assuming that if afforded the opportunity to join a predominately White GLO, the organizations would not have existed. Highly doubtful. Given that people maintain their group ties even today where opportunies to join more mainstream organizations are readily available, I seriously doubt your premise. That's reality. Look at the number of organizations being formed today to address specific needs. Whether it's more Black, Latino, Multicultural, Gay and Lesbian or whatever, it's still about like minded people providing mutual support to each other and especially when outnumbered in a group. Besides, the influence of the organizations you mentioned hasn't decreased due to other opportunities. It has decreased because they never changed their focus to adapt to the changing times. You can't use a 1960 message to address a 2005 audience. Update the message and make it more current and relevant and the influence will return. |
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You are attempting to debate a moot point. Many of us have known for years that the general founding of BGLOs is rooted in exclusion from predominently white social institutions and networks (including but not limited to GLOs). Many of us also know that the general founding of BGLOs is ALSO rooted in a desire to have our own and address our needs. See how the latter does not have to contradict the former? I really do want you to do some extensive research on this topic, though. Research what happens when groups are given the opportunity to form heterogenous networks as well as maintain homogenous ties. You already acknowledged that the message of these traditionally Black organizations hasn't changed with the times. ***BINGO!!!*** Blacks tend to have more opportunities (which includes what organizations we hypothetically have access to) than 30, 40, or 50 years ago which shapes how we view our social world, religion, and families. Good luck. |
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Good luck. |
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May I give a Huge Thumbs up for the great interpretaions of the question asked on this Thread.:)
While I think, most of us know where BGLOs came from and why, the The International Organization that was started was to Rule and Regulate said Organizations. One of the most sane and instructive Threads on GC.:cool: I learn or try to learn something New everyday here and All of you have done it so well!:) But with so many things going on within The Greek World, We are while some think different, very much the same. |
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Uh... Since I said you aren't contradicting me, that means that your posts are supporting my arguments. Let's think about this. Geesh. |
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Pardon me as I poke my eyes out! We aren't contradicting each other...PERIOD. I told you posts ago that you were debating a moot point. You are begging me to comment on your intellect. LOL. |
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Talk about debating a moot point. Get over it. You don't always have to have the last word. |
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Did you post to get the last word or am I allowed to respond to you again? :D The wonders of the human mind. :cool: |
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