Greek Org Parties
 

Okay this is what parties arranged by a fraternity/sorority really involve: http://pinkystruelife.blogspot.com/
Different from impression others try to give here

"Nice"

edit: check Jan 4th entry, starting a few paragraphs into it

Re: Greek Org Parties
 

ummmmm... right.....
First off, I couldn't even read that rambling mess... I gave up, it was giving me a headache.

Gotta be a pretty accurate reflection of an NIC-NPC party even though it doesn't conform to the image some groups will try and pass off.
Obviously kddani's KD chapter is excepted and only sang around pianos in between helping disadvantaged and injured puppies. :rolleyes:
Guys and girls on here know the blog entry is pretty accurate

I've been to more fraternity parties than I can count. I never saw cocaine, I never saw an orgy, and I sure as hell never heard anyone playing the Crash Test Dummies.

And if it was a "party arranged by a fraternity/sorority" non Greeks wouldn't have been allowed in. Duh!

Please, name your GLO and chapter so that your national HQ can proudly proclaim those activities to be okay. Are you even greek? Have you ever been to a fraternity party? Hell, NPC sororities can't sponsor parties where there is alcohol (unless 3rd party vendor, even then, sorority funds can't pay for it).

I'm more honest than a lot of people on here. I don't sugar coat stuff. I don't pretend problems don't exist. But pretty much the only person i've ever heard talk about parties like that is cashmoney, and they weren't greek parties.

Who are you, anyway? Your posts are always strange.

DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER??
 

And if it was a "party arranged by a fraternity/sorority" non Greeks wouldn't have been allowed in. Duh!
Not even women. Riight. Yes that is very true because all chapters of all NIC-NPC groups follow without exception every single possible risk management rule & recommendation of the FIPG and their bylaws, without deviation at any time. The risk mgmt. forum on this board is pretend too. :rolleyes:

"Duh!"

Who are you, anyway? Your posts are always strange.
An ad hominem attack is not needed. Discuss content.

HERE: http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=62638 :)

Please, name your GLO and chapter so that your national HQ can proudly proclaim those activities to be okay. Are you even greek?
Uhh that's not my blog. I was not at that particular party. You are saying it could never ever happen. OK

Re: DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER??
 

That's not what I said, hoser.

A party arranged by a fraternity AND sorority - whether it's at a bar, a Greek house or elsewhere - and whether or not alcohol is served - is referred to as a mixer or a swap. These are limited to members of the fraternity and sorority in question. It has nothing to do with alcohol.

I think I went to the wrong parties back in the day. :D Most of the ones I attended were boring...if you weren't a beer drinker there was really nothing to do.

wow and I thought beloit had wild parties...maybe I just wasn't cool enough. oh darn.

It's valid. Where's the attack? I don't know who you are, and I do think your posts are strange. Strange isn't an attack. You're posting an inflammatory post with no basis in fact. I'm going to question you.

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Uhh that's not my blog. I was not at that particular party. You are saying it could never ever happen. OK

Never said it could never happen. But you're saying that all parties are really like that. And they're not. Hell, there's a good chance that that party never happened. Blogs aren't exactly a trustworthy source of research. Maybe the blogger was trying to seem cool... happens all the time.

No one said people don't drink, party, etc. But your post makes it seem that every greek party is like the one in that blog. And they're very far from it. If there are parties like that, they'd be an exception and certainly not a rule.

So who are you? What GLO are you a part of? Where do you go to such wild parties all the time that you know this to be truth?

shooting messenger
 

A party arranged by a fraternity AND sorority ...
33girl the blog said it was organised/run by a fraternity it didn't suggest it was a mixer. Some sorority members may've been there - many even - but it was not what you suggest.

NOT every greek party will be like that. But saying theyre the exception is a large leap

And kddani there's no need to start with the dragging my glo or the next person's into it. I referred to KD obviously jokingly w/sarcasm after your post but I did not start suggesting any glo is singled out as running such parties. Pls stick to **the topic in a thread** it is called netiquette. And attacking any person who suggests greek life isnt wall to wall philanthropy and fuzzy bunnies is silly. have a good day.

Re: shooting messenger
 

Says who?
Offer up some proof to support your assertions rather than some blog of some random person

Re: shooting messenger
 

If you're going to make bold assertions, then offer some factual examples to back it up.

This has everything to do with the topic at hand, it goes to the credibility of your assertions.

I posted the link - pretty much on-topic albeit disliked by you - and expected discussion to follow. I did not write the blog. I do not know the author personally. You can comment on a blog to communicate with a blog author. 1st post was headline style.
Maybe you were insulated to the extent within your college years that you never personally knew people who attended such greek parties nor knew of any such parties going on. Fine. Please respect others' experiences. Only sorority ladies here have commented indignantly saying that doesn't happen at all but no fraternity men have. Open discussion is healthy. Have a good day. bye

Re: shooting messenger
 

Your first post in this thread:

It appears as though you're the one with the reading comprehension issue.

Which would be fine, but you editorialized in your post asserting that all greek parties were like this. I can comment on that all I want.

Post your own experiences then. I have no reason to respect some random blogger's "experiences", which may very well be fiction.

Also, don't tell me to respect other's experiences here when you haven't respected those who have responded to the post.

Notice not a single person has said anything to back up your opinion.

I'm calling troll on this one

ETA: man, that blogger sure gets around a lot for being "terminally ill".

Re: shooting messenger
 

Usage of the word netiquette is forbidden on Greek Chat.

Mainly because it's a really really stupid word.

Failure to follow this guideline can result in banning or beheading.

Have a nice day.

kddani you are welcome to continue with your attacks e.g. troll and obviously did not read the linked thread on logic. Also, your first post said you didn't "read that rambling mess". But you felt able to say it was untrue!
33girl: Uhmmm a forward slash generally means "OR" not "AND". Again the headline style will not suggest to reasonable folks that it *actually* is an absolute. You've already said you have heard of no run-by-a-fraternity or sorority parties like that - fine. We heard.

We use English on this board. Please learn to use commas. Thanks!

twostep. you are gonna lose this argument. Pack up and go home please.

You said:

how is this not an absolute statement? It's your editorialization.

and i went back and read the pertinent part of the blog when you delineated which part is was.

Word. And I go to one of the biggest party schools in the country.

I guess you'd have to be doing coke to think that that's a good song for a fraternity party, lol

PhiPsiRuss: I shall take greater care with comma splices and semicolons in future. Thank you.

Little E: Generally speaking, discussions are not competitive. I am not here to score points or cause problems, contrary to what you might think. Perhaps I aired or started an unpopular topic but that does not mean I am trying to achieve a sinister objective! Take care and have a good day.

Then participate in the discussion. Your assertions have been refuted by many posters and supported by none. Unless you give something else to help your position, the discussion is pretty much dead and will just take random detours to entertain ourselves on a Friday :)

Dani, I think it's Mayor Murphy. This sounds like his brain level :p

ETA:

Or considering the use of the royal "we", maybe it's the decayed body of Victoria I.

And a mouth writing checks their butt can't cash :)

And trying to convince people they know about something they know nothing about.

The discussion needn't be dead :/. The bottom line is that something controversial, or even unpleasant to think about shouldn't be dismissed based purely upon its content.

Trolling is something quite different; contrary to your assertion I do not post on this board to antagonise others. I frequently see newer members and those with fewer posts appear to be considered 'guilty until proven innocent' here. I find that unfortunate, not least because it might perpetuate negative images often attributed to greek life. There have been many Greek Life forum threads, which have had senior members reply with "*gets popcorn*" and similar. I think *some* of those posters may have been around to cause trouble but assuming anyone posting anything less than innocuous is a "troll" isn't logical or advisable.

I hope the debate - such as it is - can continue. You have shared your view that whilst a party like this could theoretically happen you haven't experienced or come across any. I suggested they are feasible and may well not be 'out of the ordinary'. Let's hear the opinions of members other than you, 33girl and myself? Have a good day and look after yourself.

If you would have started by saying "one person's view of a fraternity party" no one would have said a thing to you.

You dug your own hole by intimating in your first post that ALL Greek parties are like the link you posted.

Don't try to kiss butt and say differently.

Shoot first ask questions later?
 

If you're referring to my 'take care' signoff I make no apology. My father always taught me to try and be polite.

To iterate, the headline style that contained an absolute was not written literally. I already addressed that. Plus, I take issue with your first line; I've seen newer folks get jumped on since I've been here. As I said above some of them might be flamebaiters/trolls sure; some probably aren't. Ciao.

Your newness, oldness, post count has nothing to do with anything, as far as I'm concerned. So if you want to "take issue" with someone over that, it's not me.

to repeat:

If you would have started this thread by saying "one person's view of a fraternity party" no one would have said a thing to you.

You dug your own hole by intimating in your first post in this thread that ALL Greek parties are like the link you posted.

(I added the "in this thread" as you appeared to not get it.)

I assumed it would be taken as read it wasn't literally suggesting EVERY greek party or just about was along the lines of that entry! :eek: I was surprised to read that was the impression and happily set the record straight.

I understand you think the entry is probably fictional and really doesn't reflect parties of many groups at all. That's your opinion and experience and I respect that. :)

I wonder if that party from the blog was at the WVU campus?

Sounds pretty standard here, lots of binge drinking, coke, and freshman girls making....poor decisions to say the least. Hell, I was at a party at a frat house two weeks ago and the coke was brought at by like 11. Which is about the time I left b/c I'm not getting involved in nosecandy in any way shape or form.

You know, I went to parties at Ole Miss and Middle Tennessee State University... I never saw any drugs. I am not saying it isn't done at all on any campus. But, in my experiences, I never saw anything close to what is being described in that blog.

Well, she called it a story, and I believe it is just that, a STORY, a fictional one. I'm not saying it's all PG stuff I've witnessed at parties I've been to, but really...

I hope it was just a story on her part.... someone who's terminally ill really shouldn't be exposing themselves to that sort of environment anyway. Of course, the terminally ill could also be a story.

twostep, as 33girl and I have both said to you several times, it's not the actual story, it's your editorialization, that has set people off

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Acronyms, Mnemonics and Name calling
 

KillarneyRose, there's no need for playground name calling when you don't like subject matter of a thread. :( Please stick to the topic of the originating post.

I note all male GC members posting here have said the entry is, in some respects, a true reflection of many greek collegiate parties out there. Conversely, most female GC members posting denied it had any basis and some simply angrily bandied insults around. Whilst the m-f ratio here isn't equal I certainly find that is interesting. Anyway, if you feel unable to participate in the thread without playground name calling please do not post in the thread so others may discuss the topic at hand. Thank you.