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kddani 02-01-2005 02:27 PM

Women: would you trust your man to take birth control. Men: would you take it?
 
This was a question that popped into my head with my birth control rant in Chit Chat:

Women, would you trust your man/a man to take birth control pills?

Men: would you want to take them?

Discuss :)

Rio_Kohitsuji 02-01-2005 02:29 PM

My boyfriend and I had talked about this before, he's all up for taking bc for guys. So as you can tell I'd trust him to take it.

KillarneyRose 02-01-2005 02:29 PM

Hell no!!!

Rudey 02-01-2005 02:34 PM

I don't want my boys screwed up. So no.

-Rudey

ZTAngel 02-01-2005 02:53 PM

Depends on the man. Some men I would trust. My boyfriend, unfortunately, is not one of them. I'm surprised that he remembers how to get himself dressed in the morning nonetheless take maintenance medication everyday. Seriously the most forgetful person I have ever met....

Munchkin03 02-01-2005 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
I've never been in a relationship where this wasn't completely discussed and decided prior to intimacy.

If he's not willing to take his share of responsibility, why bother? He's already proven that he's not mature enough to be a man.

This thread regards birth control PILLS for men, not contraception in general.

It's my responsibility. As great as my partners have been about contraception, I'm the one who would be pregnant.

_Opi_ 02-01-2005 03:13 PM

Since they are not the ones getting pregnant....Hell no!

valkyrie 02-01-2005 03:36 PM

Yes I would.

chideltjen 02-01-2005 04:05 PM

I just saw a report on this yesterday. Scientists are testing pond scum because it has a similar make up to semen.

The report struck me because the catch line before the report was "Men and Pond Scum... they have more in common than you think..."

Oh really?


As far as BC for guys... depends on the boyfriend. My current bf... I think he would be responsible with medicine to remember. My last bf... no way in HELL would I trust him with taking pills every day.

33girl 02-01-2005 04:10 PM

As far as Mr 33, yes I would. Considering he freaks if he forgets his vitamins and is VERY scrupulous about taking them every day. This would just be another pill on the pile.

Men in general...NWIH!!

Rudey 02-01-2005 04:12 PM

I know a lot of guys who hit it with jimmy hats even if the chick is taking the pill.

You never know what she might be up to.

You might be bagging chicks left and right or not commiting and the next thing you know she's preggers and wants to lock you in like an interest rate on your mom's mortgage.

-Rudey

33girl 02-01-2005 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I know a lot of guys who hit it with jimmy hats even if the chick is taking the pill.

You never know what she might be up to.

You might be bagging chicks left and right or not commiting and the next thing you know she's preggers and wants to lock you in like an interest rate on your mom's mortgage.

-Rudey

One of my male friends once said the same thing, that committed relationship or not, he's never done it without a condom because he didn't want there to be any doubt that he wasn't responsible for a pregnancy.

There are meds you can take - like antibiotics and St John's Wort - that can screw up the effectiveness of your BC pills. Lots of girls don't know that.

Rudey 02-01-2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
One of my male friends once said the same thing, that committed relationship or not, he's never done it without a condom because he didn't want there to be any doubt that he wasn't responsible for a pregnancy.

There are meds you can take - like antibiotics and St John's Wort - that can screw up the effectiveness of your BC pills. Lots of girls don't know that.

Exactly.

By the way, can you refer to them as jimmy hats and not condoms?

http://www.glynlewis.com/JIMMY%20HAT%20PHIL.jpg

-Rudey

RedRoseSAI 02-01-2005 04:20 PM

No way would I trust a man to take BC. Since it's my body that has to go through the joy of pregnancy, I will be in charge of the birth control.

RedRoseSAI 02-01-2005 04:22 PM

PS - Anyone else notice that GC is abuzz with preggo/birth control discussions today?

33girl 02-01-2005 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Exactly.

By the way, can you refer to them as jimmy hats and not condoms?

http://www.glynlewis.com/JIMMY%20HAT%20PHIL.jpg

-Rudey

I don't think that dude has to worry about using them no matter what they're called.

James 02-01-2005 04:32 PM

Thats one pill that even forgetful guys are likely to take I would think . . given the evil consequences of an 18 year jail term.

I would take it depending on the side effects.

GeekyPenguin 02-02-2005 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
This thread regards birth control PILLS for men, not contraception in general.

It's my responsibility. As great as my partners have been about contraception, I'm the one who would be pregnant.

Yes. I will definitely trust my partners - but to me, that's not enough - I need to bear responsibility as well. Why do so many men insist on wearing condoms even though the woman is on the Pill?

It's not a lack of discussion - it's the fact that nobody wants to end up with an unplanned pregnancy.

AGDee 02-02-2005 07:16 AM

Unless the person is a virgin or has been tested prior to being with you, a condom is a smart thing whether you're on the pill, have your tubes tied, whatever.

Dee

winneythepooh7 02-02-2005 07:47 AM

I only trust myself. Period. There are some guys out there too I am sure who secretly hope that the woman gets pregnant so they can stay in her life. Also, at this point in my life, I cannot afford children, nor do I have time for them, so I take full responsibility in this area.

aephi alum 02-02-2005 10:55 AM

I would trust my husband to take a BC pill, however I would insist on a second method of BC. There's something comforting about actually seeing a condom or knowing that you took your pill.

I wouldn't trust men in general, though. They don't have to deal with the consequences of becoming pregnant. A man could just say "Oh, I'm on the pill" in hopes of convincing a woman not to insist on a condom, then blam! she's pregnant and he's disappeared.

kddani 02-02-2005 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
Unless the person is a virgin or has been tested prior to being with you, a condom is a smart thing whether you're on the pill, have your tubes tied, whatever.

Dee

Thanks for the public service announcement, but that really doesn't have anything to do with the thread....

*handing out free condoms to all*

XOMichelle 02-02-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I don't want my boys screwed up. So no.

-Rudey

But it's totally ok for me to take something that increases my chance of blood clots and may or may not hurt my chances of reproduction in the long run?

Munchkin03 02-02-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile



We'll talk about your signature at another time.

Why?

Regarding "responsibility," my partners have been very responsible in that regard. I know, however, that since I'm the one who would have to deal with the physical aspects of being pregnant--the ultimate responsibility is mine.

Any woman who believes differently is, in my opinion, naive.

Rudey 02-02-2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XOMichelle
But it's totally ok for me to take something that increases my chance of blood clots and may or may not hurt my chances of reproduction in the long run?
Honestly, I'm OK with you not reproducing.

-Rudey
--Really, I am.

Dionysus 02-02-2005 12:57 PM

OH SNAP!

GeekyPenguin 02-02-2005 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Yes, ultimately it is a woman's decision to take care of herself. My decision is to not be involved with someone I find to be irresponsible, or if so, to not have relations.
This is kind of ridiculous. My boyfriend is an incredibly "responsible" person, but he's also the most forgetful person alive, and I'm amazed he always manages to leave the house without forgetting his pants. He forgets to take his contacts out, so I don't think relying on him to remember a pill at the exact same time everyday would be the best method of contraception.

Then again, I have to set an alarm to remember to take my pill.

I think it's just absurd to assume that because women don't trust their partner to take the Pill, it means that they haven't made rational decisions and had adult discussions about birth control.

rho4life 02-02-2005 02:36 PM

I would feel more comfortable with a dude who gets a shot every three months, like Depo, rather than a daily pill. I would also be ok with a male patch.

Any medical researchers on the board???? Can you start working on this????:confused: :confused:

mu_agd 02-02-2005 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I'm amazed he always manages to leave the house without putting pants on.

The Conservinator doesn't wear any pants???

kddani 02-02-2005 02:39 PM

Gotta agree with GP.

Whether or not you "trust' the person you're sleeping with has nothing to do with their reliability in taking a medication. My parents have been happily married for over 25 years. Yet I know my mother wouldn't ever trust my father to take a male BC pill. He's lucky he rememebers to flush the friggin toliet.

I guess it's just inherent in that women are the ones who have to carry a child and give birth to it, so it's a more "real" concern to them.

Lil' Hannah 02-02-2005 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mu_agd
The Conservinator doesn't wear any pants???
Well I mean, I'd be amazed if my boyfriend didn't wear pants as well...

GeekyPenguin 02-02-2005 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mu_agd
The Conservinator doesn't wear any pants???
IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT PANTS IN THE BIBLE.

At least that's what he says.

I am making the best typos EVER today.

ZTAngel 02-02-2005 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
I understood that.

What I don't understand is why anyone would have sex with someone who they felt was that irresponsible, and so unworthy of trust.

Trust and irresponsibility are completely different. My boyfriend is forgetful...not irresponsible. I trust him 100% when it comes to our relationship. I just don't trust him to remember to take a pill everyday. I think it would be silly of me to say, "I'm not going to be intimate with you because you're kinda forgetful."
Since I'm the one that would be getting pregnant, I'll keep on taking the Pill so that I don't have to worry whether or not he forgot to that day.

sigmagrrl 02-02-2005 03:54 PM

Just a thought...

When BC pills are "marketed" to women, the other benefits are stressed as well: clearer skin, etc. Maybe if the BC shot/pill for men had an extra bonus side effect (bigger manhood :D ), they'd take it!?!?!

Personally, the onus should be on the couple, not one member, but hey, it's an age-old arguement that can't be fought, decided, or won on here...

RUgreek 02-02-2005 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
As far as Mr 33, yes I would. Considering he freaks if he forgets his vitamins and is VERY scrupulous about taking them every day. This would just be another pill on the pile.

Men in general...NWIH!!

Heh, I love how you always address him as Mr. 33 on this board....

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I know more women that are forgetful about birth control then guys, so you girls need to get over your high horse that you are more mature than most men. If it was my choice to take pills (and they were proven safe enough not to make me sterile) I would be able to handle that with no hestitation. It's my ass on the line if she gets pregnant, and that's something I'd like to have the "power" to prevent as well.


RUgreek

AGDee 02-02-2005 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Thanks for the public service announcement, but that really doesn't have anything to do with the thread....

*handing out free condoms to all*

GP had just asked in the post above mine
Quote:

Why do so many men insist on wearing condoms even though the woman is on the Pill?
So, I responded with my post stating one reason why they might do that.

Dee

sugar and spice 02-02-2005 10:42 PM

As someone else said, irresponsible does not equal untrustworthy. When I was on the pill, I had major problems remembering to take it. We always relied on a second method of birth control because of this. Does that mean that I was "untrustworthy" in regards to the relationship? Dude, I wasn't trying to get myself knocked up so I could trap him into staying in the relationship or anything -- y'all know how I feel about kids. I just have a bad memory. That doesn't make me a bad person, mmmkay?

I'd definitely be okay with a guy taking the pill -- I just wouldn't make that our only method of birth control. But then again, I'm neurotic about birth control. Most people overestimate how effective it is. The pill is 99.9 percent effective only if you take it perfectly every single time, which almost nobody does. Backup methods are never a bad idea.

Munchkin03 02-02-2005 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
I suppose that if I were into the "hook up", I'd have an entirely different point of view - which is why my thoughts are so unpopular here.
Judgemental much?

I'm not into the "hook up" scene at all. I know that a lot of the women here who have responded in similar ways aren't, either. You've completely missed the point of what some people here are trying to say.

ZTAngel 02-02-2005 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
I suppose that if I were into the "hook up", I'd have an entirely different point of view - which is why my thoughts are so unpopular here.
Really? I guess my 4 year monogomous relationship with my boyfriend has just been downgraded to a hook-up. Thank you for not only offending me but a bunch of other female GCers as well.

ETA: I just read your comment above and I don't believe that your comment was read into much. You said your views were unpopular on GC because you're not into the "hook up". That translates to me that you believe our relationships are merely hook ups.

GeekyPenguin 02-02-2005 11:59 PM

I am in the shortest relationship of anyone in this thread. Also, every woman in this thread is still having PREMARITAL SEX, so let's not act like we're holy rollers when we aren't.


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