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September26libr 01-14-2005 08:25 PM

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CrimsonTide4 01-14-2005 08:27 PM

If you are NOT a member of Delta Sigma Theta, do not respond to this.

CrimsonTide4 01-14-2005 09:34 PM

I'm back; let's do this.


Picture this:

You are at a club or a party or the mall or somewhere on campus. A guy approaches you. He is interested in you. He has seen you from afar and likes what he sees. So he steps to you.

You smile at him, maybe engage in some polite conversation but you are not interested. The guy is not daunted.

You see him again. He is a little more persistent. He asks for your number. You give him a fake name and number.

You see him again. He says that the number you gave him does not work, but HE STILL WANTS YOU!!!

Now doesn't this guy because of his PERSISTENCE deserve to be EMBRACED by you! I mean after all, HE CHOSE YOU to want to be with. No matter that he looks like Flava Flav, has more gold teeth than white ones, his pants hang faaaaaaaar from his butt, his breath stanks and you want to buy him a Listerine flavored slurpee, you are not interested in him but he still wants you. He gets indignant with you at the party. He begins to talk loudly about how you ain't that fine anyway and you should be grateful yada yada yada yada.

Now let me bring that scenario closer to home. The same way this guy has approached you is how my sorors on campuses nationwide are approached everyday. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard, "I want to be a Delta," "I think you all are the best sorority," I love to see you all step," etc etc etc I could pay off a loan or a car or self publish my book. Just like you would get tired of the guy haunting you, SOMETIMES my sorors, myself included get tired of "prospects" haunting us. Not everyone who approaches us as Deltas about our organization is sincere. A lot of folks want to be Deltas for the superficial reasons -- stepping, getting fraternity men, partying, blah blah blah. Delta has not stood the test of time based upon those precepts.

My first week at my job, the girl on my team found out I was a Delta. You know what she said? "Girl I always wanted to be a Delta. All the women in my family are Deltas. I love the Deltas. I could have been one at my alma mater but they were shady, blah blah blah." Now that was one of my first impressions of her. While she praised Delta, I sat there non plussed wishing she would train me. Almost 90 days later, I AM SO GLAD SHE IS NOT MY SOROR!! She is one of the most trifling women I have ever met. Every time she talks she AGITATES ME SO BAD!!

My point is if for every woman who told us, "I want to be a Delta," if we accepted EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE JUST for showing interest, Delta would have a lot of dead weight on our hands. MORE than we already have.

Please know that I am not calling you dead weight nor any other interest of DST. However, after having been a DELTA for almost 8 years :D everyone who has interest in Delta does not fit the ideals of Delta.

If I could leave you with some final words, it would be:

RELAX!!! Delta is not going anywhere. She is a beautiful organization and sisterhood 92 years strong.

Instead of bum rushing my sorors, attend their programs, perform community service, make sure your grades are BEYOND a 2.5, and KNOW for certain that Delta is the organization and sisterhood for you.

Know that Delta is bigger than just one person and one chapter. Don't allow your interactions with one ruin the overall organization.

Also first impressions go a long way. Not just in person but on the Internet as well.

As a writer, former English teacher, woman with a B.A. in English, your overuse of ellipses and incorrect use of apostrophes is alarming. I am not saying you have to be grammatically perfect, but my God kill those ellipses. :eek:


Finally, this is not said to be mean. This is said to HELP YOU. I could have just ignored you or let folks come on here and talk about you. If you do decide that Delta is not for you after all, I wish you all of the best in your endeavors.


I think I am done. If not, I will be back.:)

treblk 01-15-2005 12:47 AM

Soror CT4...
You have said it all..if you aint said it before.....

I do believe that since spring;) is somewhere around the corner..more of these "woe-is-me" threads will pop up..and I think that your post is a great welcome mat :)


ok carry on:p

ladygreek 01-15-2005 01:08 AM

Re: Intrested In becoming a Delta...but maybe having second thoughts...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
Hello....all...my question ....is that I am definetly intrested in becoming a delta...I don;t know of any personally...but when I transferred to the university..I told myself..that if I were to join an organization..it would be the Delta's.To make a long story short...I sought out the delta's..I emailed...different members ..showing my intrest...letting them know that I would be intrested in meeting the members...I even invited them to call me just to chit chat about their organization..instead...I basically got called a nuisance.....and was told to just look out for their flyers around campus of their next events...I just wanted to say it was very dissappointing....I feel like whenever someone takes an intitutive in showing that they are intrested in becoming a part of your organization.. that person should be embraced.. yet..I didn't feel like I was embraces..which was sad for me..since I might have to keep my options open to other organizations that are more enthused about me becoming a member of their organization...yet..that's not where my heart lie..so to all delta's any suggestions...as far as what I should do in the future when showing intrest with the delta's or is it their way of saying they aren't intrested in me...holla!
Your ending this post with holla is distressing to me. Otherwise all I will say is that we do not pursue members--they pursue us. You were told what to do--look for the flyers. It was not personal, it was policy. Enuf said.

ETA: Okay I do have one more thing to say. If you are having second thoughts because of what you described above, then maybe Delta is not for you. I suggest researching other orgs. and taking a deep self-inventory of why you want to join a sorority.

mccoyred 01-15-2005 08:49 AM

Food for Thought
 
1. WHY do you wan't to be a Delta? What is it that attracts you and sets Delta apart in YOUR mind?

2. WHY would you want to be apart of an organization, A SISTERHOOD, where you do not personally know any members?

3. WHY would you email sorors on the same campus instead of going to their events and meeting them FACE-TO-FACE?

4. WHY should they call you, a non-member, to chat about Delta?

I could go on and on BUT please think about these questions. NO RESPONSE IS REQUIRED, just THOUGHT.

September26libr 01-16-2005 12:55 AM

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CrimsonTide4 01-16-2005 04:01 AM

Re: A long reply to the suggestions and recommendations..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
First, off I felt like some people on here were sort of nasty about my situation..I never attempted to disrespect anyone or discredit anyone's organization....

Your post is just long, awkward, and aggravating.

"Sort of nasty" :confused: :confused: :confused: I want to know specifically from you who posted the nasty replies and give me the exact words.

We gave you some valuable tips and suggestions. Yet instead of just taking what we as MEMBERS are telling you to be HELPFUL and in line with how our sorors at your school feel, you continue to try to explain yourself with all these freaking ellipses. :eek: :eek: :mad: Stop calling them or giving out your number.


~~~>If they were NOT Deltas, would you be pressed to call them or hang out with them?!

Did any of YOUR friends become Deltas!?!? Ask them:

A. what was their BEST and most FAVORABLE approach to Delta?
B. does calling and inviting them to your dorm room for Top Ramen work?

Oh and you still did not answer: WHY DELTA for you? You said you would but you begin to go on and on about how you were trying to e-mail the Deltas on your campus.


P.S. I meant what I said, if you are not a member of Delta Sigma Theta, do not hit the reply or the quote button in this thread. September26libr is exempt.

September26libr 01-16-2005 04:30 AM

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blackerican 01-16-2005 10:27 AM

Wow...I remember these days!!!!
 
Well, I have been reading the post and this situation reminds me of someone. I see a little bit of myself when I was an interest. However, I had the good fortune of speaking with Treblk (whom I met on GC) who put me on the right path!!!!! I remember being told that if you don't "know" any Delta women than you are not doing enough community service. I was also told to RELAX & RESEARCH to make sure the Delta was the right choice for me. I was not "embraced" by Sorors that I e-mailed (and I e-mailed quite a few) but, I didn't let that sour me towards my goal. I just stepped back for a while and took the advise I was given. I hope that you understand where I'm coming from and I wish you luck!!!

ladygreek 01-16-2005 04:03 PM

September26,
Look at my signature and you will see I have been a Delta longer than some of my sorors on here have been born. Now I say that because I want you to reaed carefully what I am writing to you.

First, blackerican has given some excellent advice--heed it.

Second, I'll just make it plain. Sorors cannot respond to your emails of wanting to get to know them--that is policy not personal.

Third, you mention a friend who ALMOST joined and she had only been to one social. But you didn't tell us why she ALMOST joined. Could it be she was rejected because she did not participate in more activities, especially service activities?

Fourth, what happens with other organizations has nothing to do with what happens with Delta.

Fifth, your post also tells me that you still have quite a bit of research to do, and buying a book isn't going to do it alone. I got this perception when you said something about pursuing a grad chapter at another campus. You obviously do not know our structure. Have you visited our national website?

Lastly, please take CT4's advice about your writing and the use of ellipses. It gives the impression that you don't understand basic sentence structure. And if you write like that on an application it will not be seriously considered. Message boards are a good place to practice your written communications skills.

You asked for advice, and you received some good suggestions. It wasn't meant to be nasty or sarcastic. It was just honesty. You will need to learn to not be overly sensitive or take everyhing personally if you are going to be successful in functioning in any kind of group.

Good luck!

mccoyred 01-16-2005 10:01 PM

Re: A long reply to the suggestions and recommendations..
 
Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
as far as one member here posted asked Why would you want to be a part of a sisterhood where you do not know of the members personally?Well, I thought that was a good question..but let me answer that....that was my whole point in emailing them..to give them my telephone number or to get their telephone number so I maybe would have the ability to get to know them better,
I guess I am still confused why you are depending on EMAILING sorors right on your campus? Is your campus that large that you don't have ANY classes or ANY activities or ANY social functions or in the same dorm with ANY Deltas on campus? Also, do ANY of the Deltas you know from different campuses or alumnae know ANY of the Deltas on your campus? I am not tyring to be sarcastic but I really want to know why face-to-face is not an option! I honestly think that the Internet is making people lazier than they already are...

DSTinguished1 01-16-2005 11:15 PM

I just wanted to jump in here for a minute, because it hasn't been that long since I was considered an "interest." When I first came to campus and I was interested in Delta, I did not give out my number, or email, or insist on the Deltas to call me so I can get to know them. I simply went to every program and did volunteer work every weekend. Everytime they had a program I was there and they began to recognize my face. The more they saw me, we couldn't help but have conversations and I was able to establish a rapport with them. They knew me because they saw me, I didnt have to work "extra" hard for them to get to know me, I simply showed up, introduced myself and helped out wherever help was needed. Bottom Line. Its not like we are "holding" out on information. People have been very generous and have given you good solid advice. Now if you are serious about joining Delta, heed to the advice and be on your way. Good luck in your endeavours!

Ps: These .... are ellipses ( just in case you didnt know;) )

ladygreek 01-18-2005 12:51 PM

Sorors,
Check this out:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...217#post937217

CrimsonTide4 01-18-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Sorors,
Check this out:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...217#post937217

I saw it when she first posted it last night in both Sigma Gamma Rho and Zeta Phi Beta forums. What boggles my mind is that you learn BASIC punctuation first in the first grade. Ellipses do not enter the writing scope until much later. If only, if only . . .

blackerican 01-18-2005 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Sorors,
Check this out:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...217#post937217

Ok, what in the world is she trying to say??? I'm.....confused about....what she's trying...to say....:D .

smlwonderdst 01-18-2005 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackerican
I'm.....confused about....what she's trying...to say....:D .
Too Funny!!

2Tuff2Quit 01-18-2005 05:49 PM

It's seems to me like she has a long way to go before she attempts to join anything. She needs to get it together. Thats all I can say about that. When you step to someone, you step correct. There isn't any half stepping going on in Delta. Delta's shouldn't have to go out of their way to get to know anyone. If there is anyone worth knowing, they will have their stuff in order. You accomplishments should speak for you. Your community service, your campus involvement, your reputation, everything. If you have your stuff together, then you should be fine. I don't see what the problem is?!?! Maybe it's just me?!?!?! Sorry if I am coming off wrong, I just can't understand:confused:

September26libr 01-18-2005 08:08 PM

Y.

MeezDiscreet 01-18-2005 08:31 PM

well, one thing i'm confused about is your command of the English language and syntax, both here and in the other forums... (<-- proper use of an ellipse)

i was going to avoid this thread, but dangit, you forced me to respond. i really think that you've gotten both ahead of yourself and beside yourself. when your interest began in my sorority, you should've just chilled and observed the way other interested ladies were expressing their interest. as it has been broken down to you before, there really was no need for you to call the sorors about your interest and you shouldn't have expected them to jump at the opportunity to discuss membership with you. all you need to know and all that we are allowed to share with you is published on our national web site. and something that you should have figured out is that we don't recruit interested people.

you've gotten a little beside yourself on this message board. in life, when ever you want something that you have to work for, you should humble yourself to your quest to attain it. snappy comments won't encourage anyone to aid you in your quest for clarity.

ladygreek 01-18-2005 09:20 PM

Sorors,
Let's be careful. I'm beginning to think that this might be a set up.

September26libr 01-19-2005 12:38 AM

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CrimsonTide4 01-19-2005 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
Well, I just hate it when someone undermines my intelligence.Shit..my english must be pretty damn okay..I have an overall GPA OF 3.5 and that's all that matters.Second, no offense but some of you need to loosen up and stop taking stuff some of the stuff I've said to the heart.I thought that becoming a member of a postive,predominatally african american greek organization is something that is positive,uplifting,and fun but it seems in actuality it is something contrary to that.

Oh NO, you didn't!!! :mad:

I know a lot of folks who are "smart" but don't always convey that intelligence.

I am not questioning your intelligence, but I am questioning your ability to take GOOD ADVICE given to you by people who are MEMBERS.

Take it or leave it but YOUR LANGUAGE has GOT TO GO!!:mad:

P.S. I meant what I said, if you are not a member of Delta Sigma Theta, do not hit the reply or the quote button in this thread. September26libr is exempt.

smlwonderdst 01-19-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
Well, I just hate it when someone undermines my intelligence.Shit..my english must be pretty damn okay..I have an overall GPA OF 3.5 and that's all that matters.Second, no offense but some of you need to loosen up and stop taking stuff some of the stuff I've said to the heart.I thought that becoming a member of a postive,predominatally african american greek organization is something that is positive,uplifting,and fun but it seems in actuality it is something contrary to that.
Now you are out of line. My sorors have been surprisingly nice to you, given the questions you are asking, they way you have worded your posts, and the tone of your posts.

First, a 3.5 just means that you are smart and passed the class. It has no bearing on your use of the english language. The evidence of this is your continuing use of fragments to express yourself.

Second, we take all matters concerning Delta Sigma Theta to heart because we love her and we only want the best for her. When someone expresses interest, we take a serious look at how this person is presenting themselves. Right now, your presentation sucks.

Third, DST is positive, uplifting and fun. If this constructive criticism is making you think otherwise, maybe you need to re-evaluate your interest in Delta.

You have been given a lot of great advice on how to proceed. I suggest you take it to heart and act upon it. When my sorors on your campus open the doors to Delta, they are going to be looking for young ladies who are leaders both on campus and in the community. They are going to be looking for young ladies who take initiative in finding out everything that is publicly available about Delta Sigma Theta and its members. It is going to take you coming out of your comfort zone of internet research and email. You are going to have to talk to my sorors, show up at programs, show up at community service events, and let them see what you are about through your actions. Now, I suggest you calm down, take everything in, and go about your quest for Delta.

Good Luck!

Phasad1913 01-20-2005 01:34 AM

Well, I tried to be nice and PM the young lady to give her some pointers. I have yet to recieve a response. :rolleyes: Oh well, I see where my good intentions get me. I wish her the best of luck...in joining whatever org. she "chooses".

blackerican 01-20-2005 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by September26libr
Well, I just hate it when someone undermines my intelligence.Shit..my english must be pretty damn okay..I have an overall GPA OF 3.5 and that's all that matters.Second, no offense but some of you need to loosen up and stop taking stuff some of the stuff I've said to the heart.I thought that becoming a member of a postive,predominatally african american greek organization is something that is positive,uplifting,and fun but it seems in actuality it is something contrary to that.
I am happy to see that you a such a high GPA. However, you need more than that to achieve memebership into any org. That is where RESEARCH comes in. You need to find the right choice for you. When you do this the org that is positive, uplifting, and fun for YOU will be self evident. I will end this with a quote that was told to me by my favorite Delta...she told me that "Delta seeks no one, wish women seek Delta"!!!!
Good Luck.

ladygreek 01-26-2005 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CT4

P.S. I meant what I said, if you are not a member of Delta Sigma Theta, do not hit the reply or the quote button in this thread. September26libr is exempt.
To quote my soror.

treblk 01-26-2005 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
To quote my soror.
Soror Ladygreek..you beat me to it;)

ladygreek 01-26-2005 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by treblk
Soror Ladygreek..you beat me to it;)
Reading really is fundamental. :D

treblk 01-26-2005 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Reading really is fundamental. :D
It sure is:D

CrimsonTide4 01-26-2005 08:03 AM

Thank you my LOVELY SORORS!!! I was wondering what on Earth happened to bring this thread back to the top. LOL. Wonders never cease.

Boom_Quack13 01-31-2005 11:17 AM

WOW. :eek:


Sorors.........:D .


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