Prince Harry wore a Nazi uniform
 

And after everything his country did to fight Hitler.. what was he thinking?

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LONDON, England -- Britain's Prince Harry was being encouraged to make a public apology and visit the Auschwitz death camp after he was photographed wearing a Nazi uniform at a party.

Politicians and Jewish groups reacted with outrage to the photograph, in which the 20-year-old royal was seen holding a cigarette and a drink and wearing a swastika armband.

The picture of the third in line to the throne in Nazi regalia was published on the front page of Thursday's Sun newspaper.

Clarence House, the office of Harry's father, Prince Charles, issued a statement late Wednesday night in which Harry apologized for any offence he may have caused.

But opposition Conservative leader Michael Howard said Harry -- the younger son of Charles and the late Princess Diana -- should apologize in person.

"I think a lot of people will be disappointed to see that photograph and it will cause a lot of offence," said Howard, who is Jewish.

"Prince Harry has apologized. I have no doubt that his father and his family will have a good deal to say to him in private. I think it might be appropriate for him to tell us himself just how contrite he now is," Howard told BBC radio.

for full article..

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/01/13/harry.react/

Down with the Monarchy.

You may want to search again, TKE - he's already issued an apology and has been 'pardoned' by the UK's major judaic organizations.


Still - how freaking stupid could you be . . . no one saw him walk out of the palace and thought, hey, that might be a bad idea?

Which, of course, is the real point. That was a dumb thing to do, but nobody ever accussed every 20 year old of being all that bright all of the time.

Witness all of the threads last year about "blackface" at fraternity parties.

I often wonder what goes through people's minds when they do things like this. What could be the thought process that would lead to this decision?

Prince Harry has never been accused as being the smarter of the two brothers - I don't think he passed any O levels. This is also a 20-year old who lost his mother (the more sensible parent) when he was not quite 13.

Not that I excuse his behavior - where was his valet? It's not like he doesn't have a whole staff or anything.

Well he is of German descent...

/sidenote: Isn't he in the British Army?

For first one... well technically yes...

About the army, he was a cadet at his prep. school - however he may have screwed-up any chance of going to Sandhurst, because this incident calls into question his "character" (again), it's should be interesting to see what happens now that the politicos are invovled.... and it should make Friday's Monarchist Leauge social at least a little more intersting...

While wearing that shirt, he should be publicly spanked by Queen Elizabeth for five non-stop minutes.

She's too old.

Then he should be put into Howard Stern's spanking machine.

There are also members of his family who have had not so private love for the Nazi's and Hitler - His Great Great Uncle (the queens uncle) and it caused quite a bit of embarrassment for the royal family at the time.

It was during the first world war when the royals changed their name to the current windsor. They were known as Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, which was 'too German' for them. They were falling all over themselves trying to be "English" at the time.

So I think the royals would be EXTRA sensitive to this....

But Prince Harry isn't just any stupid 20-year-old. He's a 20-year-old that's been trained since birth on the importance of good p.r. I know he's kind of been on his whole "downward spiral" thing as of late, but this is pretty crazy even so.

The only possible and slightly coherant (which is more than I can say for me right now - codine for pain good)... is that the two brothers went as a theme on their nicknames or future careers. Ie. Prince William as a lion, representing royalty; while Prince Harry went as a facist/nazi (apparently quite a ball buster in cadets)... of course if he had worn simply an Afrika Korps uniform without the armband all this might not be an issue (or as big as one). Please not that I think that in no way does it excuse him... after all he should expect to be in the public eye, and act accordingly... I mean come on did no one go "Hmmm... this might be a bad idea?":rolleyes:

Re: Prince Harry wore a Nazi uniform
 

OMG, I can't believe what I'm seeing.... Holidays for 9.50?!?!

That's really cheap, wish I could find the booking form inside that magazine.

Oh, and what's up with the armband on Harry? I mean, maybe he's just a soldier for the Falun Gong :rolleyes:

Ever seen their symbol ?

Come on, I'm sure he just wanted to be Hitler Youth for the party to get his dick-tatored to http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/funny/lew.gif...


RUgreek

His mother must be turning in her grave.

all he needs is some TLC- send him my way, his brother too.

Well it looks like HRH Prince Charles has ordered Prince Harry to visit Auschwitz...


Father Orders UK's Harry to Visit Auschwitz --Report
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He won't understand or give a shit. Walking through the camps and memorials is something he should choose to do on his own. Forcing him right after this incident is not going to mean anything in his mind...

What's said and done in the dark will always come to the light. Now there had to be some sort of pride instilled in him as a German descendant and his relationship to the Nazis in order for him to feel comfortable wearing that. (it's the same thing as those in the south who praise their confederate ancestors, to me) That's fine if that's your heritage, but don't be surprised when those on the other end of the matter react to your pride.

Now the perception, at least in my opinion will be that the only reason there is any interest in the Camp is because of the negative PR as a result of this incident. I mean come on, this "boy" is old enough to know right from wrong as well as what the Holocaust was. He DID attend, supposedly the best schools in Europe. You can't convince me that no one ever taught him about that horrific event and if someone did and he STILL went out wearing that, then I feel sorry for the English who have to have such high regard for their royal family as leaders (those who do).

I guess, as I always thought, people who aren't a part of the group who suffered just don't have much of a sense of seriousness of their experiences.

Very true. The cynic in me say that the whole trip is nothing more than a publicity gimmick.

Publicity gimmick? For whom? It was recommended by many prominent Jewish groups.

I don't think so. The camps, museums, movies, books all help to educate people and get them to sympathize and empathise. Many people that conduct themselves shamefully are often given sensitivity training or required to attend some sort of program - this is no different.

Does it surprise me that this happened? No. It never does. Things don't change.

-Rudey

For his profile. His future military career is now in question. This is probably a way for the pressure to ease off.

I have to disagree with the nay-sayers. I've been to the Holocaust Museum a few times, and came away deeply moved. A man who I know to be extremely unemotional broke down at Auschwitz. Frankly, I can't think of a better way of sending the message of what Prince Harry did home - especially since he will be going privately (read the article in full, please) and with either survivors or the children of survivors.

Well given these stats:
Almost half the adult population in Britain (45 percent) claimed to have never heard of Auschwitz. Among women and people younger than 35 the figure was even higher at 60%, and even among those who have heard of Auschwitz, 70% felt they did not know a great deal about the subject.

And it's good to know Fergie chimed in with this:

Jan. 14, 2005 11:40 | Updated Jan. 14, 2005 11:49
Duchess of York: Leave Prince Harry alone
By JPOST.COM STAFF

While reactions from across the globe to Prince Harry's Nazi costume condemn his actions, Harry's aunt, the Duchess of York, came to his defense, saying he is "a very good man."

Speaking on BBC Radio 4 Today program, Duchess Sarah Ferguson said: "I want someone to stand up for him and say he is a very good man, and I'm that person. Because I know what it is like to have a very bad press and to be continually criticized. It is very tiring and it is very unpleasant.

"He is a young man, and he does a lot of good when he is following his mother's work with AIDS in Africa and he is a very good young man and I just think it is time that the press backed off and stopped criticizing him. They have been criticizing him now for months and months.

"Somebody needs to stand up and say 'Leave him alone, he is a very good man'. Both William and Harry are very good men. I think that their mother was very proud of them.

"I am speaking in support of a great young man who needs more support and less criticism. He has apologized and people have accepted his apology, and let's move on."

-Rudey

While that might be one intention, I can't imagine a trip to the site of some of the greatest horrors in the history of humanity not having a far more profound impact that simply rectifying a military career. Even if he's part of a fast, loose, impervious set of wealthy kids - how do you think that sort of cycle is broken?

The thing with Fergie's comments is this: this wasn't a case of him going out and getting drunk, getting in a fight or anything like that. The guy wore a Nazi uniform; this goes beyond being criticized by paparazzi. He made an extremely insensitive and disturbing gesture and deserves any negative attention his act has brought.

I have to agree with Rudey... afterall I have German relatives too that were "forced" to see concentration camps after the war... the most hardcore one (a member of a Hilter-youth SS Regiment) according to the family literly snapped - emotionally overcome... since that day until his death he volunteered to teach about the Holocaust and aid in hunting down the camp personnel...

I've been there and it is extremely overwhelming... you can't grasp the scope of the atrocity until you see it first hand... I'm sure Prince Harry will come away changed, how much I don't know, but you can't visit the site and walk away the same.

Again Rudey points out a troubling trend... the forgetting of history because the cliche is true "If you don't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it" (or at least miss the warning signs of a repeat).

While most of you may think I'm a bleeding heart liberal, I do have issue with an educational system that takes the emphasis away from lessons history :(

I agree that visiting Auschwitz will have SOME sort of an impact. I've never known anybody to walk out of the Holocaust museum without being hit hard by the impact of what happened -- so I imagine that visiting one of the major sites where the atrocities occurred, along with people who were deeply affected by the Holocaust itself, will provide about 50 times the impact. This is a punishment that truly does fit the crime, and I'm pretty sure that he will walk away with a deeper understanding of what that uniform means.

And I would have agreed with Fergie that the press have been too hard on Harry -- up until this incident. Until now, most of the things he's been doing (drinking, partying, the occasional fight) were fairly understandable, and forgivable, given his background (hell, it's pretty normal for any kid his age, regardless of background). Wearing a Nazi costume to a party doesn't fit into that category -- it's under no circumstances forgivable.

Not the smartest thing to do. I've done some stupid things, but this one tops the cake.

And, he absolutely should get the lashing he's gotten- because he's a prince. With privilege comes responsibility. It's true for me, and it's true for you too! Harry, meet the plate. Step up.


ETA- You know, the Nazi's didn't just murder Jews. They kills millions of Polish people and others too. Socialists, Catholics, anyone else that was against the government. I should be offended by this because I'm Polish. I'm not- I just think he's stupid and needs to learn his lesson.

Well theoretically, when I visited Kensington Palace and they had a showing of the late Lady Diana's ball gowns and appropriate dress for the aristocrats and royals, another country can legally declare war for this heinious act...

I think that visiting the Holocaust Museum is the "noble" thing to do... And I think Prince Harry will be moved. However, IMHO, I do not think he will truly learn from this unless he is put in a place of war and hatred and may be realize the world is not all what it's cracked up to be in his puny mind...

I think that the Israeli government outta publically flog his ass... But that's my opinion...

Did you play sports to get into Stanford?

-Rudey

And Freemasons, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, in fact, anyone who did not meet the standards of racial purity or was not 110% in favor of the policies of the Nazionalsozialistiche Deutsches Arbeiterspartei. (NSDAP - the official Gernan name of the Nazi party. The abbreviation "Nazi" comes from the German word Nazionalsozialistische; while it was popularly used by the world, use of the term was officially discouraged within the party.)

Chances are Prince Harry will get into Sandhurst, but he'll never live down the time he suffered a stupid attack and wore a Nazi-style uniform for the rest of his life.

I was at Dachau in November while traveling through Germany. It was a cold, dark, rainy, and I was alone with the memorials. While it wasn't as intense as Auschwitz, the message was strong enough for me.

I think if he's going to do this, he should see it by myself, not with the media on his heels and waiting to snap a shot of his emotional revelation (assuming he gets one).

If Princes William and Harry do make the journey to Auschwitz, and are able to do so with an absolute minimum of publicity, I still think that survivors and/or children of survivors should go.

Immediately afterwards, I think that EVERY palace official, from the bodyguards on down, should then have to follow suit. If Prince Harry was about to fall off of a cliff, they would have broken ranks and stopped him; they should also have stopped this madness before he even got out of the Palace.

Another thing that I find offensive is the fact that he went to party called 'colonials and natives' party. Doesn't he realized that the days of their lit's Empire are long gone?

If working in Africa doesn't make him realized that colonialism was one of the major factor in wrecking the continent, I doubt going to Aushwitz will open his mind.

Dont forget lesbians and gay men- who weren't freed by the Allies but instead kept in the camps and then after the war transfered to jails and not freed until the late 60s.

Prince Harry is an adult. He should be making his own choices and decisions. Making everyone in the palace go is punshing them for a spoiled prince's stupid choice. Do we know that he was even staying in the palace? How do you know someone DIDN'T say something to him? They could've easily made a comment, hey that might not be appropriate Harry, but they couldn't press the issue. Those people want to keep their jobs. Harry could have them fired quite quickly, i'm sure.

I don't think anyone in the palace knew he was going as a nazi soldier. The uniform is plain and the only thing that makes it nazi is the armband which he could have hidden in his pocket until he got to the party.