Why do must non-NPHC Greeks Don't know the Greek alphabets
 

I was just wondering," Why is it that most non-NPHC Greeks, don't know the Greek alphabets". In many cases NPHC Members can rattle them off the tip of their tongues and most NPC and IFC members struggle.

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I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are asking. As far as I can tell you said you were wondering why must Non-NPHC Greek Letter Organization(s) (do) know the greek alphabet. Are you asking why must we (non-NPHC greeks) learn the greek alphabet?

The reasons we learn the greek alphabet are probably similar to why NPHC members learn it. It is considered an essential part of our identity as greeks, plus we are able to identify and name other houses.

In reference to your mention about NPHC members who "rattle them off the tip of the tongues", I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean but maybe someone else could address this for you?

That's funny that you should ask, because I was just wondering today why WVU Ques don't know the difference between the words 'most' and 'must' and can't form a subject line that makes sense grammatically.

We were required to learn the Greek alphabet as a new member, and were tested on it during our meetings. I don't know what you are talking about.

I thought he was asking why we must learn the greek alphabet?

I think he means that years after we (we meaning NPHC orgs) are intiated, depending on the person, we can still rapidly run through the Greek Alphabet on command and he hasn't noticed the same thing within NPC/IFC organizations.

Re: Why do must non-NPHC Greeks Don't know the Greek alphabets
 

Which survey are you citing for this "fact?"

I was able to rattle it off of my tongue, forwards and backwards, when I was initiated 18 years ago. And I still can.

Also, what is an "IPC" member?

Why would he notice that? Is that a topic of conversation with fellow greeks that he meets?

"Hi, I'm Bob. Can you say the Greek alphabet?"

I was initiated into an NPC group 35 years ago and can still rattle off the greek alphabet as well as name our 10 founders.

This is when I become a valuable asset for my apathetic house. Whenever they need fast greek facts, ESPECIALLY with the Greek Alphabet, they turn to me...

When I was pledging a more "serious" group, we did the match test....front AND backwards....I was the only one who could do it correctly.

Actually the conversation starts off like this. “Hi bob how are you, ………yea;…… I bet you don't know the Greek alphabets”. I’m sure that’s what your brain would interpret.

I made my initial post on this website and I get “jumped”. Well that cool, its time to bring out the spell checker. Ok for those of you who don’t know the NPC is the National Panhellenic and the IFC (my bad not IPC) Interfraternal Council, which are predominately Caucasian organizations. I was just asking a question, didn’t mean to get you all riled up. But since I did, “let’s do this”.

See what I mean.

I know the Greek alphabet pretty well and knew it before I was Greek. I took a Mythology class in high school. :)

So were we.

Then you shouldn't have been so rude, in this thread as well as some of the other threads you've posted in. Not a good way to make a first impression.

I can recite the Greek Alphabet - and very quickly at that.

Do you have a match? We can have a pissing contest and see who can say it through the most times before getting burned. ;)

In all seriousness, why does it matter? What does knowing the Greek alphabet have anything to do w/ being a good or bad sister/brother, or make any umbrella group superior to another?

I'd rather have my members know what their letters mean and live it in their daily lives, than to challenge their knowledge of the alphabet of a language they don't use every day.

But that's just me.

ETA: Is there more than one Greek alphabet? The O.P. keeps referring to the "Greek alphabets" so I might be confused...

can spit it backwards and forwards. used to be crisp.

if you're going to be critical of someone or a group you should probably have your own isht in place first, such as writing a subject line in english.

But of course! Modern and Ancient Greek!;)

I can still do the greek alphabet pretty fast.

i can rattle it off--piece of cake.

you have to wonder where people get all this "information" about things that the NPC and IFC members can't do that NPHC members can, especially after graduation. have they actually SPOKEN to people who were initiated 30 years ago or are they ASSUMING. my guess is they're assuming.

what does it even matter if you could recite it when you're 53? it doesn't make you a better brother or sister.

Hmm, I don't remember being critical about any group! I was simple asking a question and this forum answer it…….. By the defensive positions some of you have taken….. It leaves me to believe that you think your organization may have some challenges with regard to reciting the Greek alphabet,…….. Just as AXiD670 stated “I'd rather have my members know what their letters mean and live it in their daily lives, than to challenge their knowledge of the alphabet of a language they don't use every day.” My question is, “How can someone live them without knowing them”.

If you are offended by my question! Well….. you might be in the wrong topic. You may need to visit the RUSH ROOM or something.
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I have known it forward and backward now since around 1997. I was never made to do the match test, but I did it to myself to hone my skills. (I'm not sure how you all did your match test but I did mine saying it forward first, then backward, before the match burned me. Is that how you all did it??)

wvuques, this isn't Kazo - you might be a little too rough for GC. ;) (LOLOLOLOL!)

Dam ......... I think I'm in the wrong forum again. We have english teachers in here. Whom never make a mistake!:)

Every member of my chapter learned it & was tested on it before initiation...that was about 17 years ago, and I can still recite it easily. Same w/Mr. DZandiloo and his LXA brothers. When I traveled as a consultant, I recall most, if not all, chapters included it in their pledge curriculum & at several of the schools I visited had Rush convocation at which all the NPC sororities would sing it in unison...seems to me it was pretty well known by the NPC's I encountered at the time....

The more responses this topic receives, It seems like "KAZO",….. But should I have expected less...... Hmm!
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If I were you I wouldn't tell people what "room" they should be in or what topics they should talk about. You posted in my GLO forum's roll call thread :)

not sure what you're talking about with the "rush room"

seems like kazo?

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I don't understand what you're asking. I don't HAVE to know the entire Greek alphabet to know what my letters mean. Do you?

Are you saying that non-NPHC members forget the meaning behind their letters? Or are you saying they cannot as readily recite the Greek alphabet, as in, "Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon..." etc.?

There we go again, I simply Suggested that viewers who are offended by this thread should simply visit another! OK I hope I cleared that up.

Ok ......Now......Me posting on your board was an error on my part. Your board was titled "Roll Call", with this being my first post, I didn't notice a sign that said “KD post only", but since that’s your message to me….. I assure you that I have NO intention of posting on the "KD" board.
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Negro, leave these white folks alone!

I know for real!! :D

That's what I'm wondering. I know the Greek alphabet, but only because I chose to learn it. My chapter never tested our new members on it, because quite frankly, it's not all that important. I know what my letters mean, and I don't need that Greek alphabet to understand them or to live them.

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