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chelly 01-07-2005 04:05 AM

Farmhouse and Acacia
 
I know i sound like a complete fool, but can someone please explain to me what Farmhouse and Acacia are?

Delta Delta Delta Phi Beta Chapter FPC '04
"Let Us Steadfastly Love One Another"
*I Love My AEPi Man!*
Proud daughter of a Phi Sigma Kappa!

HPU PIKE 01-07-2005 04:43 AM

http://www.farmhouse.org/

http://www.acacia.org/about_main.htm


chelly, you don't sound like a fool at all. I had no idea what they were when i first joined GC either. They are both Fraternities with many of the same values and traditions held by most Greek-letter fraternities. If you look around their Ntl. websites, you will find out a lot more about both orgs.

Tom Earp 01-07-2005 10:32 AM

chelly remember, "The Dumbest Question is The One You Never Ask".

HPU Pike, thanks for placing those links up!:cool:

You will find, if you explore that there were a lot of reasons Greek Organizations were started, just as there are today.

Try: greekpages.com.


I too found those two sites very interesting as never really looked that much at them.

TSteven 01-07-2005 11:51 AM

I thought I would add one other NIC fraternity, sans Greek letters, Triangle Fraternity.

http://www.triangle.org/

All three NIC fraternities were founded around a hundred years ago at mid-western universities. Acacia Fraternity founded in 1904 at the University of Michigan; FarmHouse International Fraternity founded in 1905 at the University of Missouri; and Triangle Fraternity founded in 1907 at the University of Illinois.

AlphaSigOU 01-07-2005 01:20 PM

Triangle and FarmHouse require that you be enrolled as a student in a specific field of study (engineering, science or architecture for Triangle, agriculture for FarmHouse) before you can pledge.

Alpha Sigma Kappa is a sorority with the same membership requirements as Triangle.

Originally, Acacia required that candidates for membership have taken the Masonic obligations (interpreted as the Master Mason degree). This requirement was later dropped, though Masonic lodges at locations where Acacia chapters are found are active supporters of the fraternity.

hoosier 01-07-2005 10:11 PM

Alpha Rho Chi
 
There's also a social fraternity for architecture - APX.

They had a chapter at U Ill., and Purdue too, I think.

I met a Teke once, who said he had been the exec secy of Triangle for a while, supposedly the only non-member to every head a GLO's office.

AlphaFrog 01-07-2005 10:20 PM

Re: Alpha Rho Chi
 
Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
I met a Teke once, who said he had been the exec secy of Triangle for a while, supposedly the only non-member to every head a GLO's office.
In 1913 Ida Shaw Martin (yes Tri-Delts, that's you) was elected to Membership and in 1914 was elected national President for Alpha Sigma Alpha, and there continues to this day to be non-members at our HQ, and even a male or two.

So, yeah, as you probably thought, this guy was full of BS

Tom Earp 01-08-2005 12:34 AM

Sometimes ASAs come up with some great POSTS!.:)

hoosier always comes with interesting info. pisses off some stiff necks, but He is 99 % right, oh H giving a benetit of a doubt!:D

OOPS, was that a typo!????;)

Erik P Conard 01-09-2005 11:20 AM

CEOs of various outfits
 
there have been quite a few CEOs of GLOs who did not belong
as an undergrad. Most are the same as regards runnin' em.

IowaStatePhiPsi 01-10-2005 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Triangle and FarmHouse require that you be enrolled as a student in a specific field of study (engineering, science or architecture for Triangle, agriculture for FarmHouse) before you can pledge.
Farmhouse at Iowa State also rushes Business majors. Our out-going IFC Pres is a member of Farmhouse and is a business major from suburban Kansas City (and he wears shoes that are more expensive than my entire outfit...).

01-10-2005 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaSigOU
Triangle and FarmHouse require that you be enrolled as a student in a specific field of study (engineering, science or architecture for Triangle, agriculture for FarmHouse) before you can pledge.

I knew a lot of FarmHouse guys that were NOT agriculture majors. I'm not sure that it is a requirement that you be an agriculture major. I may be completely wrong, but I knew guys w/majors varying from Landscape Architeture to Business to Restuarant/Hotel Mgmt.

MysticCat 01-10-2005 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Farmhouse at Iowa State also rushes Business majors. Our out-going IFC Pres is a member of Farmhouse and is a business major from suburban Kansas City (and he wears shoes that are more expensive than my entire outfit...).
According to FH's By-Laws, the chapter can pledge any male student provided (along with other determinations of good character, etc.):

his subjects of study can be applied toward a degree in agriculture or related fields, or he has a rural background, or he shares an agricultural interest; or he demonstrates qualities of character, scholarship and professional excellence to which FarmHouse men aspire.

hottytoddy 01-10-2005 06:14 PM

I think AGR is for agriculture too? I"m not sure though....I know there's a chapter at UT.

TSteven 01-10-2005 08:20 PM

AGR isn't just for "farm boys."
 
Alpha Gamma Rho

Quote:

You don't have to study production agriculture to join AGR. AGR is for any young man preparing for any ag or food related career, including food science, biotechnology, agri-marketing, environmental science and many others. AGR has strong ties with 4-H and FFA, but even if you have never been a member of these groups, you can be a member of AGR.

TSteven 01-10-2005 08:26 PM

Alpha Gamma Sigma
 
Alpha Gamma Sigma - "A Professional Fraternity of Agricultural Heritage" - is another NIC member.

Alpha Gamma Sigma

emb021 01-11-2005 05:36 PM

Re: CEOs of various outfits
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
there have been quite a few CEOs of GLOs who did not belong
as an undergrad. Most are the same as regards runnin' em.

True.

The current and previous National Executive Directors for my GLO were never previously members. That wasn't a requirement for hiring them. (of course once they were hired they were made honoraries by our oldest continuous chapter). Same is true of our office staff. Few were hired who were members, but most get made honoraries.

SmartBlondeGPhB 01-11-2005 05:45 PM

Quite a few members of our IH staff are not Gamma Phi's and we have a few men who work there as well. Our current Exec Director is a Gamma Phi but the one prior to that (not the interim)was not. Membership isn't a requirement.

33girl 01-11-2005 05:49 PM

Just to point out that (as far as I know) headquarters staff, exec directors, foundation heads etc are not elected by the voting body of the GLO - they are hired employees or appointed volunteers. They do not make policy for the GLO.

So Erik - maybe CEO isn't really the term you want - how about Comptroller?

emb021 01-11-2005 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Just to point out that (as far as I know) headquarters staff, exec directors, foundation heads etc are not elected by the voting body of the GLO - they are hired employees or appointed volunteers. They do not make policy for the GLO.

So Erik - maybe CEO isn't really the term you want - how about Comptroller?

Well, comptroller may be worse, as the term usually applies to the person in charge of finances, not in charge of the whole show.

Personally, I find the use of the term "CEO" when applied to volunteer-run non-profit groups (which I think most GLOs fall under) to be confusing (and maybe a little incorrect). Is the term appropriate for the top elected volunteer leader, usually called National President or the like, or is it appropriate for the top employee, usually called an Executive Secretary or Executive Director? (Realize that the ExecDir takes their marching orders from the Board of Directors headed by the President and just runs day to day operations.) I personally have a problem with the term CEO applied to the ExecDir, myself. I've sometime seen the term claimed for either position, usually in a silly effort to pick a term that is 'known' to the business world.

But we're getting a little off topic, now. :)

33girl 01-11-2005 06:06 PM

I would say CEO = National Prez, as far as most people's conceptions of a CEO and their role in their company.

Exec Director is like, I don't know, the office manager.

emb021 01-11-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
I would say CEO = National Prez, as far as most people's conceptions of a CEO and their role in their company.

Exec Director is like, I don't know, the office manager.

True regarding CEO = Nat Prez, but as I said, I've also seen it applied to the ExecDirector on the logic that CEO is "Chief Executive Officer", the ExecDirector is the chief executive officer of the org, so thus "CEO = ExecDirector". Problem is in most corporations the CEO is also the President, and if they are separate positions the CEO is higher then the President. But in non-profit orgs the President is higher then the Exec. So calling the ExecDir the CEO makes it seem like they are higher then the elected president.

ExecDir is kind of like an office manager, but there is more to the position then that. They typically have certain responsibilities, more so then an office manager. They are considered professionals in the same way you have CPAs and the like.

Erik P Conard 01-12-2005 12:16 AM

well, I, er, uh
 
how 'bout "boss?"

Tom Earp 01-12-2005 12:27 AM

Re: well, I, er, uh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
how 'bout "boss?"
Well, How About The Head Cheese in Charge?;)

Some are over the top dont ya know!:rolleyes:

LXA has always had a Member be Head of Our Fraternity, but, there are members of other Fraternitys and Sororitys who are Members of our Staff and I have had the pleasure of working with them. They are True Greeks working for Greekdom.:)

It is funny, I know 3 Greek Organizational Heads and many more members of HQs who do moniter this Site.:D

Must be a hoot for them!:)

33girl 01-12-2005 04:18 PM

Re: well, I, er, uh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
how 'bout "boss?"
LOL, it's new and different, but I dig it.

Seriously - in these days where it seems like everyone and their Basset Hound is a Vice President, it's easier to just say boss and be done with it! :D

GeekyPenguin 01-12-2005 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
Quite a few members of our IH staff are not Gamma Phi's and we have a few men who work there as well. Our current Exec Director is a Gamma Phi but the one prior to that (not the interim)was not. Membership isn't a requirement.
Like the mailroom guy? ;)


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