Any takers?
 

After scanning some of the post for an answer and coming up empty handed, I figured is time to see if anyone can help with this one. Its a dosie! A first-year friend from home on my campus was rushed, pledged, and initiated in a NPC. Things did not work out and certain rules were broken by her sorority. She's a great girl in would fit in with alot of the other houses on my campus. Question is: can she re-rush but not be initiated(like forever a new member) by another NPC sorority on campus. Its just an unfortunate situation and hate to see her college experience ruined by something so dumb(for lack of a better word).

I can understand why she would want to re-rush, but why in the world would anyone want to forever be a new member?

Like Jocelyn said, once initiated into another NPC you can never join another NPC. When bids are distributed they are only good for one year, so it's impossible to "forever be a new member" (unless she rushes and receives a bid from the other 25 NPC sororities).

I'd advise your friend to look into the possibility of joining a local (if her campus has them), or a service or professional Greek organization.

Re: Any takers?
 

Why didn't I think of that? lol...j/k

Since she was already INITIATED elsewhere, I don't even think the sorority would be able to extend her a bid, period.

I remember a post on here a while back about "social affiliation," how girls who transferred to a campus that didn't have their sorority became friends with girls in a sorority on their new campus and would go to things like mixers, semis, formals, etc. but not be allowed to attend meetings or things like that. Your friend's best bet would be to do that or as OTW said look into joining a non-NPC GLO.

Thats what I have suggested to her, she's just upset about how things have worked out. Its hard to meet people and form friendships at a school that is very greek and cliquey to say the least.

well we had a guy in our fraternity who got de-scrolled from another house and pledged ours. No problem in the fraternity scene for that. Kind of strange that sororities are this strict on members that obviously have special circumstances to quit or switch...

Well, if she can't quit, then that's where she is stuck. My advice is to make everyone else's life a living hell in that house until they disband and maybe then she can form her own local group. Remember, this only works if you make the other girls go nuts....

Good luck!

- RUgreek

I remember a time when I was very pissed at my chapter sisters and I really wanted to go alum early just so I didn't hafta put up with their bullshit anymore.

And then I sat with my chapter advisor (the lovely hawaiiagd) and she reminded me about how our sisterhood extended internationally and how, even if I didn't get along with those on our campus (at that time), there'd be other sisters our there who'd show me what sisterhood was really all about.

I'm glad I took her advice. I took my time, and my campus sisters took their time. It took me awhile and we appreciate each other now, but those sisters I met later on in life are the ones who I will keep with me forever.

no
 

she cannot join another npc sorority.

Re: no
 

I know this, you know this, and thousands of our NPC sisters know this.

But we'll still get the same question over and over again. I'd say someone will ask the same question once every few weeks.

what about becoming a social member of another group?

that's not really common. There's no official status of "social" member that i've ever heard of. Certainly not in KD.

2nd Chance..... (find another pass time!!)
 

Well maybe not for your Fraternity.....
But in ours (Zeta Psi) it is a very strict and upheld rule that you must have not been affiliatted with no other Fraternity!! We can never be to safe about protecting our Fraternity.

AST has that clause, and maybe someone who has the written info can clarify, but I believe that is ONLY in cases where a woman transfers to campus and there is not a chapter of her sorority. She would not rush, but if she happened to become very close to the AST chapter, they could extend this to her. I think, that she would then be eligible for everything except for voting, and rituals. I highly doubt this is done very often, but do believe it is there.

We hear this all the time and the reality is she either needs to suck it up and stick it out, or deactivate. Contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to have a happy and healthy college experience w/out being greek. Tell her to join some clubs, get involved in the community and find her own niche, not wait for her chapter to make it for her.

I would be more than amazed if Delt would take a man who had been initiated in another national social fraternity. It just doesn't make sense for a number of reasons.

Re: Any takers?
 

No, she may not. This answers your question and ends the debate.

You know, it is possible to have a life and not be Greek. I advise your friend to get involved with one or more of the many campus activities offered at her university. She can even join with a friend.

But no, she may not re-rush and will not be bidded by another NPC sorority. Her circumstances are unfortunate, but life goes on.

NO SHE CANNOT RE RUSH AND JOIN ANOTHER NPC. YES SHE CAN HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF BEING GREEK!


how many times have we posted something like this the past few weeks? Sheesh

Although she cannot join another NPC group, she can join a local group if there is any.

It's deja vu all over again!

Re: 2nd Chance..... (find another pass time!!)
 

Our fraternity's national constitution does stipulate that you cannot be a member of two social fraternities at the same time, that of course makes sense to me. But to say that someone joined one group and doesn't want to be affiliated anymore with it and decides to de-scroll himself, then how can you not accept him into yours?

Secondly, if he is no longer a member of record at one fraternity, then how would you know if he was part of another group? I see this lots of times and nobody has spontaneously combusted because of it. You pleged one house, leave and go to another school where yours doesn't exist, decide to join the greek scene and so now you're part of a new social circle. As long as you accept this group as your only fraternity I wouldn't get all bent that they were part of another house once. This is just a personal opinion, so many of you many differ on this notion.


- RUgreek

Your friend should contact the headquarters of the NPC in question and make them aware of her situation. Perhaps they can help her resolve whatever problems have arisen within her chapter.

Re: Any takers?
 

While I'm sure she's a great girl, I doubt any other chapter on campus would take her (since she has been a part of another NPC's ritual) even if they could.

That said, I think that most GLOs generally have a certain new member/pledge period (a certain amount of time [weeks] spent learning and preparing to join) as specified by Nationals. If this is the case, there is no way she could be a new member for three years, even if she could rush.

Why do people keep asking the same thing?

She also couldn't be a pledge forever because you HAVE to HAVE a declared initiation date.

Either she should deactivate and say good bye.
or
Suck it up and stay in

Do you have a friend named Lisa by any chance?

We all know it's possible to have a social life without being Greek and whatnot, but I do understand how this could be a disappointment for someone in this type of situation. I guess most of us were fortunate in that we got the sorority/fraternity we wanted and had a good experience, but we have to remember that for some people, it doesn't work out that way. It sucks, yes. Is there anything you can do about it? Not really. I would say to just try and stick it out--every chapter goes through rough patches (I know mine sure as heck did), and a lot of times, things do get better (they did for my chapter). If not...well, yeah, as someone said, it's an unfortunate situation with no really good solution.

Why do people continue to think that Greek life is the ONLY way to obtain a social life in college?

I have plenty of friends not involved in the system but they are highly active in other organizations on and off campus. They have lots of friends and social contacts.

Greek life isn't for everyone. Wearing greek letters isn't the only guarantee to good college memories.

Sheesh...:rolleyes:

how do they find out if she was even ever initiated or not. if she kept her mouth shut about the whole thing, would they even look into it?

Regardless of whether they would look into it or not it would be a terrible thing of her to even try to deceive another sorority in such a way.

If you tried to, then it would be found out because I believe that the NPC has a database of all of the members of the 26 sororities with the social security numbers, and this gets checked before initiation.

I think the social membership may be intended for non-greeks that live in sorority houses when the organization cannot fill it with its own members.

If I knew someone had been pledging another sorority on my campus and I was unsure as to whether she initiated, I would definitely go to the other group and ask what happened. I would not want someone as a sister who would be so duplicitous.

What I want to know is why akcio sent me a PM about this mess. i ahvent even been involved in this thread....he/she only has what, 2 posts? and somehow somewhere drew my name out of a hat to PM me about this subject? PLEASE.....

My response was as follows:

Re: i have a question

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akchio wrote on 07-27-2005 11:27 AM:
hi, i have a question that maybe you can answer for me...i rushed last year and was initiated. but i knew i was transferring and planned on trying to re-rush. now i'm about to go through rush again, do you think they can see that i was initiated, or that i was just a pledge?

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Is this...a joke? If you joined a national organization, yes, they are gonna know that you're already a member of another group. You might be able to pledge, but they'll have time to run a check through all other national organizations before you get a chance to initiate, and when they find out, it wont be pretty.

If you knew you were transferring, why did you initiate? Unless youre at a school that the organization you're already with has a chapter. If that's the case, all you have to do it affiliate.

Why are you asking me this anyway???? I seriously, think this is a joke. Nobody could honestly be so silly to think its okay to join one and turn around a join another. If your first organization was a local organization, then there is no big deal. But if it was national, you might as well forget it. Go to a campus with that organization and affiliate, or join an alumnae organization. You're already a member of an organization. I can't believe you'd want to join another. Says something about the loyalty you have - or lack-there-of

You can't join another national sorority if you've already been initiated into one.

How do we know? Your name is on a national roster of initiates, and if you've cancelled your membership or been cancelled, then your name is on this list as well.

The question really becomes: why would you want to join an organization through dishonest means and lie to people with whom you are trying to connect with as lifelong friends? Do you think you can keep that kind of secret? And are you the kind of person who can be so unethical that it won't be revealed or come back in another way to hurt you later in life, either in friendship or in your profession?

Here's a basic rule for LIFE: Tell the truth.

ETA: I strongly dislike purposely deceitful people.

Maybe she's transferring to your campus, you lucky girl. :p

Well I guess we'll just do what we're supposed to do....check the national roster.

akchio, you can gank someone's identity. Then they won't track you down by soc sec #.

Go for it!

Sorority is LIFE!

You know it's not that hard to find out who she is. Seeing as she already posted her affiliation, girls from schools who think that's where she may be transferring to can call up Chi O nationals with a list of their PNM's and see if any of their names match with the names of initiated members.

Yeah, it's just too easy. :mad:

A word of caution if you decide to do this:
Make sure that the girl who's identity you steal isn't a member of any NPC sorority. Otherwise, you still won't be able to join any NPC sorority and that will just leave you back at square one.