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dog dog bang bang 07-24-2001 02:10 PM

Who had the nappiest hair in your neighboorhood when you were younger
 
I had to post this cause I was thinking about who all the people were in my neighboorhood growing up in Chicago, and I was like damn that girl had some nappy a## hair. I can't even remember the girl name but maybe you all can look back and be like Damn Too.

MaMaBuddha 07-24-2001 02:20 PM

that little girl was probably me. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/cry.gif


BlueReign 07-24-2001 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaMaBuddha:
that little girl was probably me. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/cry.gif

Me too! They called me names and everything!

dog dog bang bang 07-24-2001 02:25 PM

But now you're both are so fresh and so clean clean

CrimsonTide4 07-24-2001 03:08 PM

My former boyfriend's little sister. NAPPY and short, i was so glad when she got the jheri curl. I loved her but her hair was nappier than natural.

ShakespareDST 07-24-2001 03:26 PM

One of my good friends named Meloniece. Her hair was short and nappy but it was always neat. Her mother used to put those skinny cornrows in her hair but everybody still clowned her.

lovelyivy84 07-24-2001 04:33 PM

I don't get this...aren't we all black? Don't we all (to some degree) have nappy hair? Why differentiate? Why would you ever tease someone about it? I have never teased someone for it, was never teased for it, or even really took notice...as long as hair is well taken care of, what does it matter?

korkscru 07-24-2001 04:40 PM

These people weren't in my neighborhood, but I'll haveto say that NO ONE (and I mean NO ONE) had hair nappier than J.J. and James Evans on GOOD TIMES. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

dog dog bang bang 07-24-2001 04:55 PM

LovelyIvy84 Don't get upset. I love my black people. Happy to be nappy is all that. But I was just looking back to when I was a kid. And J.J did need a brush.

#1 Leading Lady 07-24-2001 05:55 PM

Lil Bobby Kristina on the BET Awards..chile needed some HELP and so did her Whitney

DELTAQTE 07-24-2001 06:02 PM

Hey Ivy,

There is nappy and there is DAMN!

Some kids at my school didn't even look like they combed the naps out before they came to school! At least run a brush through your hair! lol!


QTE
HAPPY TO BE NAPPY

lovelyivy84 07-24-2001 06:30 PM

I'm not upset, just sad. Why is it that we are always willing to degrade ourselves for the things that make us black? Jokes about nappy hair are just like the ones talking about being too black. Both are extremely damaging to our people's psyche and sense of self-love.

lovelyivy84 07-24-2001 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DELTAQTE:
Hey Ivy,

There is nappy and there is DAMN!

Some kids at my school didn't even look like they combed the naps out before they came to school! At least run a brush through your hair! lol!


QTE
HAPPY TO BE NAPPY


Healthy well-cared for hair will always look good, regardless of texture. I can understand a thread about people who were to' up, but nappy? Come on y'all!


[This message has been edited by lovelyivy84 (edited July 24, 2001).]

Alias_01 07-24-2001 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dog dog bang bang:
Ithinking about who all the people were in my neighboorhood growing up in Chicago,

Whats parts of the Chi did you grow up in?

Holla Back

BlueReign 07-25-2001 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84:
I'm not upset, just sad. Why is it that we are always willing to degrade ourselves for the things that make us black? Jokes about nappy hair are just like the ones talking about being too black. Both are extremely damaging to our people's psyche and sense of self-love.
I agree with you sister, yes I am "so fresh and clean,clean" now but those years I was teased, called names, etc. are still very "fresh and clean" in my mind. I am still very sensitive about my hair which didn't start growing until I was in my teens. Genetics I guess because my daughter has the same hair. As a teacher today, I will lose my cool if I hear any one of my students tease a little girl about her hair!! And they have learned the hard way. Don't get me started!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif


candygirl 07-25-2001 11:13 AM

I understand that humiliaton about ones appearance can ruin the psyche of a child. I also agree that black people should stop degrading each other about things that are of our heritage(ie. hair texture and skin complexion). I know as a child I was teased about both. I was called blackie and naps(until i got my first perm). I had low self-esteem for a long time. Although I was hurt by the name calling I've overcome the issues I dealt with as child.

This topic was meant to reminisce about something that we made fun of as children(I think). Kids will be kids. I'm pretty sure all of us were teased about something whether it was about our nappy hair or being too skinny. I'm not trying to justify children making fun of each other but I think it builds character. Children don't understand the effects of their action and even if you tried to explain it they still wouldn't fully understand.

To answer dog dog bang bang's question; I had extremely nappy hair but my mother always kept it nice and neat.

DoggyStyle82 07-25-2001 01:18 PM

I don't think Dog Dog Bang Bang meant for this to be taken that seriously. I think he was referring to nappy as in "uncombeb" or "untamed" not as in "good" or "bad" hair. If anything is different about you, kids will make a point of it, especially if you let them know that you are sensitive about it. As kids, we all hated being teased or picked on. I was raised in Philly and I used to hate for kids to pick on me about my "country" parents, but everyone got "busted" on. If your mom was fat, if your dad was a drunk, if you had roaches, if you had a mutt for a dog, etc. It can ruin self-esteem though for people who are sensitive. We had "banana-nosed" Tony, "loaf-a-bread head" Cecil, "slew-footed" Ronald, "black-ass" Ant (as opposed to the less dark Ant), Therman "da monster", "Alm" (short for almondhead). I wonder if they suffer from low self-esteem today?

BlueReign 07-25-2001 02:38 PM

You don't understand! It's a female thing. It's a "woman-and-her-hair" thing. Why do you think there are all kinds of products out there and we spend hours every week to keep it "done"?

If dog dog bang bang had said "who had the most unkempt hair" or who do you remember that never combed their hair it would be different.

I combed my little short hair every day and I still got teased. This was well before the days of the jheri curl. Girls these days can "buy" some hair. I just had to make do with what I had and endure the hot pressing comb with less than two inches of hair. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif

mccoyred 07-25-2001 03:27 PM

Nappy hair is something that we should embrace as Black folks. ANYONE who has some naps MUST have some Black in them SOMEWHERE. So when you see a nap, recognize that person as kin, unless they prove otherwise :0 Our naps are one of the traits/features that make us special.

Now PEAS on the other hand is different! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif PEAS is something you get when you do not comb or brush your nappy hair. We made fun of PEASY WONDERS all the time.

Naps are born but peas are made!


happy to be nappy,
ccoyred

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TRSimon 07-25-2001 05:19 PM

Bluereign, I hear you. When I was a kid, I had long hair until my beautician overprocessed it. It broke out, and took about a year to grow back. It was combed and groomed. It just wasn't processed. The white kids didn't say much about it. The black kids (my people, mind you) gave me sheer hell over it. They laughed at me and taunted me constantly.

By the time I started high school two years after the hair incident, my hair was beyond my shoulders, and most of the kids who were picking at me were running to the store to buy hair to tack on. Character building? My character would have been fine without my people tearing me down for their own amusement.

I'm fine now, but if I ever hear one of my children clowning somebody about "nappy" hair, it will be on, and it won't be off until they get the point. There is no justification for this kind of crueltry and self-hatred. Black people are too beautiful for this nonsense.

TR Simon

ChaosDST 07-25-2001 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84:

Healthy well-cared for hair will always look good, regardless of texture. I can understand a thread about people who were to' up, but nappy? Come on y'all!


[This message has been edited by lovelyivy84 (edited July 24, 2001).]

I'm with lovelyivy on this one. This thread is sad.

DELTAQTE 07-25-2001 06:18 PM

Wow! I can't believe some of you are taking this so serious!

I had a perm and my hair fell out right before I started 7th grade. I got teased all that year, "baldie" and everything else, you name it! But my hair grew out and I no longer got teased. During the time it was happening, heck no I didn't like it, but I am 24 now and in no way does getting teased as a kid effect me today!

I have always been strong like that, no one can get you down but YOU. You control your spirit, not Shaniqua who said you were bald headed.

I think this thread was meant to be fun, he could of started a thread about who was the most ashy on my block or who had the worst breath on the block and it would have been all good. I don't think our frat's intentions was for this to bring back bad memories for some.


QTE

DSTPRL 07-25-2001 06:39 PM

Actually I still have nappy hair because I refuse to put that creamy crack on my scalp another 14 years like I did from age 10 to 24. It's a shame that many of us black folks think "nappy" is a bad thing. It is a GREAT thing!

Quote:

Originally posted by dog dog bang bang:
I had to post this cause I was thinking about who all the people were in my neighboorhood growing up in Chicago, and I was like damn that girl had some nappy a## hair. I can't even remember the girl name but maybe you all can look back and be like Damn Too.

DSTPRL 07-25-2001 06:46 PM

It is funny because folks really think that many of these combs and brushes were made for our hair type. MOST of them were made for caucasian hair types and we use it further damaging our hair unless of course we emulate our forefather slavemasters and "straighten" our hair to make it more so-called manageable. I do not use a comb other than my fingers to style my thick, healthy, nappy mane and I only use a boars bristle brush when I am putting a scarf on my head at night. I LOVE having natural hair and have worn it this way since 1994. I have had some slips but I always came back to natural. I would not have it any other way. I do not run from the rain, I can swim and wash/condition my hair in 30 minutes and be ready for a party, no more blowdryers (unless I want a blow out) or stankin' curling irons. I can wash my hair at least 3 times a week vs. every 2 weeks like alot of our relaxed sisters who can't do their own hair and have to wait to go to the beauty salon. I can do cute styles with it too - 2-strand twist, coil it, and bush it. And before anyone asks - I am a Project Manager in corporate America and the only funny stares I get (if any) are from fellow blacks who work in my building. I interviewed nappy and got every job offer I interviewed for not because of what was on my head but because of what was in it. Gotta love it!

Quote:

Originally posted by lovelyivy84:
I'm not upset, just sad. Why is it that we are always willing to degrade ourselves for the things that make us black? Jokes about nappy hair are just like the ones talking about being too black. Both are extremely damaging to our people's psyche and sense of self-love.

lastpoetnsite 07-26-2001 12:28 AM

much respect...

hmmm...there is an article posted in the AKA forum by a young man who says that black people should thank white people for giving us their genes so we could have "good hair".
and while people were angry about the guy's article it still amazes me that black folx would even talk about nappy hair.
so what someone's hair was nappy.
you know what...i'm on the flip side. i had, when i was younger, long wavy hair and i got teased so bad i had my mom cut it all off. the people who teased me called me honky, whitey, all kinds of mess. so i can imagine what it was like for someone to be teased about the courseness of their hair.

and anyone who teased anyone about nappy hair or any kind of hair should be ashamed of themselves....ESPECIALLY...if you are an adult and you are still doing the same crap.

peace

dstbrat 07-26-2001 12:38 AM

you know i understand the whole self-esteem thing, but, the truth is that kids can be cruel and so can their parents (grown folks). i have "good hair" and was teased because that (half breed, white girl and all the rest). kids say mean things to each other they don't care. the poor kids, fat kids, light skin dark skin whatever. parents and teachers have to be gardians of their kids self-esteem. reinforcing that they are beautiful and special just the way they are! my mother was great at that.

mccoyred 07-26-2001 09:53 AM


^5 to ya, Soror!

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTPRL:
It is funny because folks really think that many of these combs and brushes were made for our hair type. MOST of them were made for caucasian hair types and we use it further damaging our hair unless of course we emulate our forefather slavemasters and "straighten" our hair to make it more so-called manageable. I do not use a comb other than my fingers to style my thick, healthy, nappy mane and I only use a boars bristle brush when I am putting a scarf on my head at night. I LOVE having natural hair and have worn it this way since 1994. I have had some slips but I always came back to natural. I would not have it any other way. I do not run from the rain, I can swim and wash/condition my hair in 30 minutes and be ready for a party, no more blowdryers (unless I want a blow out) or stankin' curling irons. I can wash my hair at least 3 times a week vs. every 2 weeks like alot of our relaxed sisters who can't do their own hair and have to wait to go to the beauty salon. I can do cute styles with it too - 2-strand twist, coil it, and bush it. And before anyone asks - I am a Project Manager in corporate America and the only funny stares I get (if any) are from fellow blacks who work in my building. I interviewed nappy and got every job offer I interviewed for not because of what was on my head but because of what was in it. Gotta love it!




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Mu Psi '86
BaltCo Alumnae

Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913

BlueReign 07-26-2001 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTPRL:
It is funny because folks really think that many of these combs and brushes were made for our hair type. MOST of them were made for caucasian hair types and we use it further damaging our hair unless of course we emulate our forefather slavemasters and "straighten" our hair to make it more so-called manageable. I do not use a comb other than my fingers to style my thick, healthy, nappy mane and I only use a boars bristle brush when I am putting a scarf on my head at night. I LOVE having natural hair and have worn it this way since 1994. I have had some slips but I always came back to natural. I would not have it any other way. I do not run from the rain, I can swim and wash/condition my hair in 30 minutes and be ready for a party, no more blowdryers (unless I want a blow out) or stankin' curling irons. I can wash my hair at least 3 times a week vs. every 2 weeks like alot of our relaxed sisters who can't do their own hair and have to wait to go to the beauty salon. I can do cute styles with it too - 2-strand twist, coil it, and bush it. And before anyone asks - I am a Project Manager in corporate America and the only funny stares I get (if any) are from fellow blacks who work in my building. I interviewed nappy and got every job offer I interviewed for not because of what was on my head but because of what was in it. Gotta love it!


Go 'head sista! I go natural every 5 years, just because. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

dog dog bang bang 07-26-2001 04:29 PM

Man, You guy's are taking this to personal. I'm was joking and looking back on the good times. Now if you were that little kid then I'm sorry. I do mean to bring anyone down.

CrimsonTide4 07-26-2001 05:22 PM

I know you didn't DOG DOG BANG BANG!! I fell out cracking up because I could see Reese as clear as day.

Nappiness is something ALL BLACK people have experienced but DOG DOG BANG BANG meant or I took it to mean the perpetual Nappy headed child.

Some people always want to overanalyze childhood fun.

DSTPRL 07-27-2001 06:06 PM

Actually I wasn't the nappiest in the neighborhood. I suffered from just the opposite. I was the the little girl with the long so-called good hair (my hair is kinky curly I have about 5 textures mixed up in there).

This girl in my neighborhood used to get teased because she had "bad" hair and didn't wear Jordache jeans or Ooh Lala Sasson. Many of the cool kids back then are now cracked out, in prison or have 20 babies and can't find the babies' daddies. It's a shame how cruel children can be.

Quote:

Originally posted by dog dog bang bang:
Man, You guy's are taking this to personal. I'm was joking and looking back on the good times. Now if you were that little kid then I'm sorry. I do mean to bring anyone down.

DSTPRL 07-27-2001 06:09 PM

I understand what he meant by starting this forum but let's just think on the other side for a minute. Do you think it was plain old childhood fun for the little girl or boy who was teased? Some of these people could be carrying around the hurt and lack of acceptance years later. Many times things we experience in our childhood impact how we live in our adulthood. No one is really thinking about that aspect - just the fact they had fun teasing a child (at the expense of his or her feelings) on the way God made them - PERFECTLY IN HIS IMAGE. We AA's really need to check ourselves sometimes because we sho' can show our ignorance at the most inopportune times.

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
I know you didn't DOG DOG BANG BANG!! I fell out cracking up because I could see Reese as clear as day.

Nappiness is something ALL BLACK people have experienced but DOG DOG BANG BANG meant or I took it to mean the perpetual Nappy headed child.

Some people always want to overanalyze childhood fun.


CrimsonTide4 07-27-2001 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTPRL:
I understand what he meant by starting this forum but let's just think on the other side for a minute. Do you think it was plain old childhood fun for the little girl or boy who was teased? Some of these people could be carrying around the hurt and lack of acceptance years later. Many times things we experience in our childhood impact how we live in our adulthood. No one is really thinking about that aspect - just the fact they had fun teasing a child (at the expense of his or her feelings) on the way God made them - PERFECTLY IN HIS IMAGE. We AA's really need to check ourselves sometimes because we sho' can show our ignorance at the most inopportune times.


Well actually I was teased as a child on a multitude of things, including, but not limited to: hair (not nappy), my eyes, clothes, looks, my intelligence, etc. so yes I can see that some of that teasing was unnecessary but as my mother taught me: People are going to talk about you no matter what you do.

Anyway, you feel one way and I feel another. This topic was started in fun and I appreciate that because it started a trip down memory lane. Some people tend to get bent out of shape over the little stuff.

the411 07-28-2001 06:03 PM

Try being a fat kid! Nappy hair can easily be changed, but fat doesn't just go away. I got teased about that in elementary school. Then, when I was a pre-teen, I not only had to contend with the extra meat on my bones, but I also had a bad case of acne AND (get this) a jheri curl!!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/redface.gif I was the target of much verbal abuse by my peers, so I learned the hard way not to make fun of people. I look much different (i.e. better) now, but I'll never forget where I came from.

And I'm Out!

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the411 07-28-2001 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTPRL:
...we sho' can show our ignorance at the most inopportune times.
Really-- is there ever an opportune time to show ignorance?



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Nubian 07-28-2001 11:09 PM

At some point or another we are all teased. That nappy-headed child was probably me, and you can add bone-skinny, pigeon-toed, liver-lipped, and fashion victim to that list. I had Pro-wings when they were a no no, and I once wore my Brownie (Girl Scout) Uniform to class (3rd grade) with green socks! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

But I am so blessed because I learned at a young age how important it is to love myself first! I've never looked back, an I've never been happier.

By the way, those same things I was teased about back then are the same things that make me beautiful today.

God Bless

PS... I do dress a little better today http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

1 Woman of Virtue 07-30-2001 10:57 AM

I gues it would be funny...if our people didn't have a history of being taught to hate themselves for the very things (and hair was a big one) that made them Black. It's one thing to laugh about shoes, or clothes (which is still cruel), but it's a totally different thing to tease someone about something that is an inherent part of who they are, that they've been taught to hate. I teach African Dance to elementary school girls (ages 7-11) and they are already dealing with feeling inferior because of their skin color, the sizes of their noses or lips, and most importantly because of their hair. You can get over getting teased for wearing busted clothes (though it still hurts) but when your made fun of because of your natural hair--and their is an entire culture out there that for hundreds of years has told you straight is beautiful, and nappy is ugly--well, that is just not something that conscious Black people can afford to laugh at. At some point our children MUST be proud of the elements that make them black.
We've allowed jokes like this to become ingrained in our culture, and we still wonder why we deal with the mess that we do. Sorry to take the "fun" out of this, but I work with too many Black children and youths to think that this is just harmless fun. The consequences of ridiculing that which is an essential part of who you are, are severe, especially for Black people.

Quote:

Originally posted by dog dog bang bang:
Man, You guy's are taking this to personal. I'm was joking and looking back on the good times. Now if you were that little kid then I'm sorry. I do mean to bring anyone down.

CrimsonTide4 07-30-2001 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1 Woman of Virtue:
I gues it would be funny...if our people didn't have a history of being taught to hate themselves for the very things (and hair was a big one) that made them Black. It's one thing to laugh about shoes, or clothes (which is still cruel), but it's a totally different thing to tease someone about something that is an inherent part of who they are, that they've been taught to hate. I teach African Dance to elementary school girls (ages 7-11) and they are already dealing with feeling inferior because of their skin color, the sizes of their noses or lips, and most importantly because of their hair. You can get over getting teased for wearing busted clothes (though it still hurts) but when your made fun of because of your natural hair--and their is an entire culture out there that for hundreds of years has told you straight is beautiful, and nappy is ugly--well, that is just not something that conscious Black people can afford to laugh at. At some point our children MUST be proud of the elements that make them black.
We've allowed jokes like this to become ingrained in our culture, and we still wonder why we deal with the mess that we do. Sorry to take the "fun" out of this, but I work with too many Black children and youths to think that this is just harmless fun. The consequences of ridiculing that which is an essential part of who you are, are severe, especially for Black people.


Again I disagree, yes ridiculing can be harmful. People teased the hell out of me about my lips. I mean teased. I was teased by this guy who had BIGGER lips than me. He used to irk me but years later I saw him and he wanted to take me out. GO FIGURE.

Anyway here is my point, teasing and ridiculing in my eyes are 2 different things. What I believe is important is that kids and adults need to put their pasts, their imperfections, their "oddities" in perspective. We need to stop internalizing what others think of us. If you don't ACCEPT what others say about you, then their perception of you cannot pierce who you are.

I am a teacher and I hear it everyday, I see it everyday as well. I tell my students don't own up to what someone else thinks about you.

DSTPRL 07-30-2001 06:14 PM

To answer your question no. Question - will those of you who revel in teasing nappy headed children condone teasing in your household when or if you have children? Why or why not?


Quote:

Originally posted by the411:
Really-- is there ever an opportune time to show ignorance?



CrimsonTide4 07-30-2001 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTPRL:
To answer your question no. Question - will those of you who revel in teasing nappy headed children condone teasing in your household when or if you have children? Why or why not?

I do not REVEL in teasing anyone!!


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