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Phasad1913 12-15-2004 09:07 PM

Jenna Bush to get a little "culture"?
 
Bush twin to teach in D.C. school for low income children

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../bush_jenna_dc

We'll see what happens.

kafromTN 12-15-2004 09:45 PM

hijack/ Why is "low-income" considered culture? Does that imply "high income" areas have no culture? Also I just want to add, she's hot/end of hijack

IowaStatePhiPsi 12-15-2004 09:49 PM

so.. the first time one of these kids try to hug her unexpectedly... will the SS pull guns on him?

Phasad1913 12-15-2004 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kafromTN
hijack/ Why is "low-income" considered culture? Does that imply "high income" areas have no culture?
Now that's an interesting question.

Peaches-n-Cream 12-15-2004 11:19 PM

The word culture was not mentioned in the article.

I think it's great that she will become a teacher. Good for Jenna.

AGDee 12-15-2004 11:51 PM

It also said that she has a degree in English, not in education, nor did it mention that she has a teaching certificate. Is this odd? It would be in Michigan but maybe Washington DC has different expectations.

(and will she soon be telling her dad how crazy it is to measure some kids with standardized testing? And to base funding on that?)

KillarneyRose 12-16-2004 12:04 AM

I think it's great that she wants to teach in a charter school for low income children and I can't imagine how anyone could find something to snark about regarding the situation. :confused:

I guess people could say that she's just trying to show what a great egalitarian she is by going into the inner city and teaching the kids of the "little people". But even if that were the case, so what? It's not like people are lined up around the block applying for teaching positions in low income areas.


AGDee: I think different schools have different ways of handling the way teachers are trained. At the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, there is no education degree per se. Rather students major in a subject and also take the necessary courses to enable them to pass the state certification exam. Maybe that's how UT does it?


Edited to respond to AGDee :)

kafromTN 12-16-2004 12:10 AM

Peaches-n-cream, look at the title of this thread. That is where I got the word culture of which I was referring.

Peaches-n-Cream 12-16-2004 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kafromTN
Peaches-n-cream, look at the title of this thread. That is where I got the word culture of which I was referring.
Sorry for the confusion. I know you were quoting the title of the thread. I was just wondering why the word 'culture' was chosen for the title of the thread. I don't see it in the yahoo article. I expected to read an article about Miss Bush teaching at an art school.

DolphinChicaDDD 12-16-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
(and will she soon be telling her dad how crazy it is to measure some kids with standardized testing? And to base funding on that?)
I could just imagine that conversation:

Jenna:Uhhh, dad? Can I talk to you? The whole "No Child Left Behind" thing? Remeber that? Yeah, it sucks. You should get rid of it. Pronto. Or else there aren't going to be any books next year for the kids to read. Thanks.

CutiePie2000 12-16-2004 04:07 AM

This thread should be re-named
"Jenna Bush to get exposed to how the rest of Americans live". :rolleyes:

Shortfuse 12-16-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I think it's great that she wants to teach in a charter school for low income children and I can't imagine how anyone could find something to snark about regarding the situation. :confused:

I guess people could say that she's just trying to show what a great egalitarian she is by going into the inner city and teaching the kids of the "little people". But even if that were the case, so what? It's not like people are lined up around the block applying for teaching positions in low income areas.


AGDee: I think different schools have different ways of handling the way teachers are trained. At the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, there is no education degree per se. Rather students major in a subject and also take the necessary courses to enable them to pass the state certification exam. Maybe that's how UT does it?


Edited to respond to AGDee :)

She's NOT going into the inner city trust me.

You're wrong, people are lining up to teach those kids, but poor management on part of the DCPS and teachers (who also have mouths to feed) not being paid on-time kinda spoils you from wanting to do it.

She pulled this stunt in NYC by "teaching" in Harlem and how long did she last there?

Plus, she can't HANDLE the kids who go to the inner city schools.

KSigkid 12-16-2004 10:34 AM

I don't think any of us knows Jenna Bush to say why she's doing what she's doing. Maybe she does truly want to teach in inner city schools.

As an aside...I think it's interesting that people who are solidly against a President also tend to criticize that President's children. It happened with Chelsea Clinton and its happening with the Bush children. Not fair in either case in my opinion.

I know there has been at least one book written on President's children, but I still believe the relationship between their children and the public would be an interesting topic to explore more fully.

End hijack

Shortfuse 12-16-2004 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
I don't think any of us knows Jenna Bush to say why she's doing what she's doing. Maybe she does truly want to teach in inner city schools.

As an aside...I think it's interesting that people who are solidly against a President also tend to criticize that President's children. It happened with Chelsea Clinton and its happening with the Bush children. Not fair in either case in my opinion.

I know there has been at least one book written on President's children, but I still believe the relationship between their children and the public would be an interesting topic to explore more fully.

End hijack

I understand, and trust I'm not trying to criticize but I can judge based off what I've seen. The DC public school system isn't Pleasentville by ANY STRETCH of the imagination. Not everybody can teach in DC. It's a ENTIRELY different ballgame and i"m not talking only about the students. You got teachers who REALLY DON'T GIVE A FLIP, Principals who can care even less and people in high places.....well you get my point. You have to be mentally prepared to face this craziness and if you're not it can drive you insane.

KSigkid 12-16-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shortfuse
I understand, and trust I'm not trying to criticize but I can judge based off what I've seen. The DC public school system isn't Pleasentville by ANY STRETCH of the imagination. Not everybody can teach in DC. It's a ENTIRELY different ballgame and i"m not talking only about the students. You got teachers who REALLY DON'T GIVE A FLIP, Principals who can care even less and people in high places.....well you get my point. You have to be mentally prepared to face this craziness and if you're not it can drive you insane.
Definitely - I think anyone who goes into teaching and doesn't really want to, let alone going into a district with all the troubles you outlined, is in for a reality check. You'd better have the best of intentions, because otherwise you won't be happy at all.

Not to that degree, but I think what you said is a problem in a lot of school systems. I have had a few friends who only made it through one year of teaching because their desire wasn't great enough to overcome all of the obstacles. Bad administration, subpar pay, difficult parents; if you're not ready, you'll find out quickly.

Pike1483 12-19-2004 03:41 AM

I don't know why she's teaching, but I wish her the best of luck. People are overlooking the real issue in this whole thing, which is: Jenna Bush is freakin' hot .

PureGoldF2K1 12-19-2004 04:32 AM

Are you sure you dont mean Barbara? IMO she's the hott one :-)

RACooper 12-19-2004 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PureGoldF2K1
Are you sure you dont mean Barbara? IMO she's the hott one :-)
Now this post deserves to be in the "There are some Sick Bastards Out There" thread... Barbara Bush? <shudder>

Phasad1913 12-19-2004 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Now this post deserves to be in the "There are some Sick Bastards Out There" thread... Barbara Bush? <shudder>
i think he meant jenna's sister not her grandma.

PureGoldF2K1 12-19-2004 04:49 PM

Haha, I'm a she, but yes, I definitely meant Barbara Bush, Jenna's fraternal twin sister. Although the elder Barbara does have those sweet pearls and suits....

Senusret I 12-19-2004 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kafromTN
hijack/ Why is "low-income" considered culture? Does that imply "high income" areas have no culture?
The DCPS are 90 percent black.....the income part doesn't have anything to do with it.

Senusret I 12-19-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
It also said that she has a degree in English, not in education, nor did it mention that she has a teaching certificate. Is this odd? It would be in Michigan but maybe Washington DC has different expectations.

The DCPS does require some sort of education background to become a full-time permanent teacher.

However, the school mentioned is a Public Charter School. Here in DC, those are given more flexibility in the hiring of teachers.

ETA: After reading the whole thread, I want to reiterate that this is a Public Charter School, responsible for its own hiring and firing (one of the perks of a PCS in this city). She's not really joining a "system" per se.....just one particular school with a particular mission.

Rudey 12-19-2004 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Now this post deserves to be in the "There are some Sick Bastards Out There" thread... Barbara Bush? <shudder>
Do you ever stop insulting others?

-Rudey

kafromTN 12-19-2004 09:54 PM

So Senusret I, does that mean white people have no culture?

That seems very elitist that someone different from yourself isn't as good as you.

Senusret I 12-19-2004 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kafromTN
So Senusret I, does that mean white people have no culture?

That seems very elitist that someone different from yourself isn't as good as you.

Look, that is not what I am saying.

"Getting some culture" is a colloquialism that's way older than you or I and can be applied to ANYONE of one culture stepping outside of what they are used to and doing something different.

You want to interpret that as white people having no culture, that's on you, but that's not what I am saying.

Shortfuse 12-20-2004 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kafromTN
So Senusret I, does that mean white people have no culture?

That seems very elitist that someone different from yourself isn't as good as you.

White people do have culture but Jenna's white, I'm sure she knows that side.

I'm black if i was to go to a all WHITE TOWN you can say I'm getting culture.

It's kinda like when you hear the word "prejudice" most people think of white's looking down on Blacks but it can be a multiple of things. Just when you hear culture people (although it's wrong) think of Blacks, Asians, Latinos and not whites.

I agree with Senusret's last post.

adpiucf 12-20-2004 11:25 AM

I have read here and there that she's never been particularly interested in politics (this is prior to the 2004 election, when she and her sister helped campaign for their father).

Aside from her dad being the pres., it seems she is doing what any recent graduate would do-- getting out there into the Real World. Good for her and good luck to her!

AOII_LB93 12-20-2004 12:37 PM

Speaking as a teacher, who teaches students that are not of my background("culturally" or otherwise) it's difficult no matter where you teach. I've been teaching for 6 years now...it's no picnic, but I love my job and my students. I've dealt with kids who drive better cars than me(not hard to do) and ones who have practically nothing living with 15-20 other people in their 2 bd house, you learn something from every one of your students.

My best wishes go out to Jenna, teaching is not easy, whether you're teaching rich kids or poor kids.

If anything she will be able to tell her dad 1st hand how much his NCLB SUCKS big wang(standardized testing is a waste of time), except for the highly qualified teachers part, with that I agree.

Rudey 12-20-2004 01:27 PM

Everyone remembers that movie with Jaime Escalante teaching kids advanced placement calculus? This could be another version of it. I see great things. And then I marry my baby Jenna.

-Rudey

Senusret I 12-20-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Everyone remembers that movie with Jaime Escalante teaching kids advanced placement calculus? This could be another version of it. I see great things. And then I marry my baby Jenna.

-Rudey

I hate you, Rudey.

lololol

epsilon99 12-20-2004 05:48 PM

Can't imagine anything more distracting than my kid having jenna bush as a teacher.

xo_kathy 12-21-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shortfuse
She pulled this stunt in NYC by "teaching" in Harlem and how long did she last there?
She never even began there. She was never hired there, so it couldn't have lasted. It was rumored she interviewed, but no one confirmed (that I remember). I do remember reading in the NYC papers that it never panned out because she decided to help her dad with the campaign.

A few questions from me:
I thought Barbara was UT grad - she's the Theta after all, right?
I thought Jenna went to Yale and didn't go Greek?

Help me out here....

I also think Barbara is way cuter! And has better fashion sense! :)

EagleChick19 12-21-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xo_kathy
A few questions from me:
I thought Barbara was UT grad - she's the Theta after all, right?
I thought Jenna went to Yale and didn't go Greek?

Help me out here....

I also think Barbara is way cuter! And has better fashion sense! :)

Jenna went to UT as an English major. She was the one who pledged Theta.

Barbara, on the other hand, went to Yale (aka she was a Yalie). She was a Humanities major (if I remember correctly.) As of yet, she hasn't released her career plans.

PhiPsiRuss 12-21-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EagleChick19
Jenna went to UT as an English major. She was the one who pledged Theta.
They both pledged Theta, and they were both initiated into their respective chapters, as was their mom, and Lynn Cheney.

xo_kathy 12-22-2004 12:02 PM

Ah ha! Thanks for all the info.
Barbara struck me as for of a Yalie....

Munchkin03 12-22-2004 12:34 PM

The Bush twins/Theta connection has been discussed ad nauseaum on these boards.

Do we really need to rehash it here?

xo_kathy 12-22-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
The Bush twins/Theta connection has been discussed ad nauseaum on these boards.

Do we really need to rehash it here?

My sincere apologies. I needed a little clearing up and I don't happen to read every thread on GC - expecially ones involving Bush or his family/friends or "Guess who's a famous member of my org".

Hope I didn't waste too much of your day - seems I just got 2 answers and it was all over with...no big deal...:rolleyes:

PureGoldF2K1 12-22-2004 07:20 PM

Dont worry xo_kathy...i think its perfectly acceptable to repeat a topic :-)

i hadnt seen those other boards either!

ThetaPrincess24 12-23-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I think it's great that she wants to teach in a charter school for low income children and I can't imagine how anyone could find something to snark about regarding the situation. :confused:

I guess people could say that she's just trying to show what a great egalitarian she is by going into the inner city and teaching the kids of the "little people". But even if that were the case, so what? It's not like people are lined up around the block applying for teaching positions in low income areas.





I agree !!!!!!!!!!

xo_kathy 12-23-2004 10:30 AM

Thanks PureGold and carol! :D


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