is this possible?
 

I was initated in a npc sorority...sort of against my will. It was been a horrible experience. I dont want to give up on greek life because I think it could be great. A senior(not in my sorority) told me that she thought there was a loop hole for being able to rerush. I was wandering if anyone knew of a situation similar to this and the outcome?? Is it possible to do because at this if I can not rerush I am going to transfer schools because what has happened has been unbearable. Thanks for any help or advice you can give!

You are already initiated into an NPC sorority. Regardless of whether you willingly did it or not, you cannot join another NPC sorority. No ifs, ands, or buts. Cut and dry, simple as that. You can re-rush, but I don't think any other NPC group would offer you a bid since you're already part of another sorority.

If you're interested in a local, service, or professional sorority, then you are still able to pursue membership.

I can't believe you're actually willing to transfer schools just to escape your current sorority status.

No offense, but this thread (similar to recent ones popping up like crazy) just seems fishy.

ETA: You received lots of advice in your other thread entitled "Help?", so I'd suggest you take those words into consideration instead of starting another one. KTHXBI.

well being at a school 30,000 plus a plane ride from home when u knew no one here is unbelieveable hard and then being tricked and mistreated by a sorority that is supposed to be your "new home" "where u belong" makes everything worse.

I don't know your story, but people have already told you THAT YOU CANNOT INITIATE INTO ANOTHER NPC. It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience, but it's the truth...and I'm not going to blow sunshine up your ass about it. If it's sisterhood you seek, it can't be within the NPC. Hopefully there are locals or other orgs that might fit your standards.

Seriously, if you're even thinking about cheating the system -- it doesn't take a genius to know that you shouldn't be airing your friggin' situation on a message board like this. It's really not that hard to find out people's identities these days.

Flame all you want, but this thread just seems reaaaaaally fishy to me, and it's really hard to take it seriously. :rolleyes:

Unless you were forced at gunpoint to initiate, you had a choice.

You also had at least 6 weeks of a pledge period to figure out if it was right for you.

Again, like OTW said- NO YOU CANNOT INITIATE INTO ANOTHER NPC GROUP! There's no loopholes, there's no if ands or buts. Starting another thread isn't going to magically change the rules.

I generally try to be non-judgmental with the folks who seem to not have a clue about Greek Life, but being "forced" to initiate strikes me as pretty odd. They have to force you to write a check for at least a couple hundred dollars, force you to show up at numerous events and meetings, force you to show up at the ceremony in the appropriate attire, etc.

We all get disillusioned at some point while a collegian, I think and question whether we made the right decision. I remember trying to desperately talk a favorite sister out of terminating her membership. Our chapter had changed a lot since she had been initiated and she no longer felt close to the newer women who were around. I tried so hard to show her that although our chapter had changed, Alpha Gamma Delta's Purpose, ritual, ideals, and focus had not changed and that she was a perfect AGD, even if our chapter wasn't perfect for her anymore. I tried hard to get her to accept other options so that she could be active as an alumna, but got nowhere. Within a year, the chapter got into a lot of trouble for their behaviors and had to be "cleaned" but is in great shape now. I will always be sad that I didn't convince this sister to stick it out because she was the kind of woman we needed around.

If something really horrible has happened, then you need to alert someone who can do something about it. There aren't any activities sanctioned by any NPC which could be classified as "horrible". You do have the option of terminating your membership, but you don't have the option of pledging another NPC, even if you transfer schools.

Dee

any thoughts of nonjudgementalness that I had also went out the window after reading the thread she started a week and a half ago, basically asking the same question, and saying that the sorority wasn't for her. So it's gone, in 10 days, from the sorority not being for her to being forced to initiate.

I can't fathom being 'forced' to initiate into any group?

Since this thread is already going, I'll ask:

1. WHY has it been such a horrible experience?

2. If you think greek life could be great, then why can't it be great as a member of your own sorority?

However, you can't transfer schools and join another sorority. There aren't any loopholes because you were 'forced to initiate...sorta against my will'. None, nada, not going to happen at another school anywhere. Not in the US, not in Canada, not in Europe.

Besides, if you tried to transfer and rush again, you'd be surprised to know just how quickly your prior NPC membership would be verified--especially if your first name is really Lisa and your middle or last name starts with a P. The internet is a really small place sometimes.

The only "loophole" I can think of is if you transfer to a school that has local social sororities only, no NPCs. They might take you - but after this display, I'd kinda doubt it.

Sorry but you're a grownup now. You need to make grownup decisions and deal with them in a grownup manner if they don't work out. The only way I can think of that you'd get any sympathy here is if the sorority hazed the crap out of you, and if that was the case, you should have walked away before initiation. If you felt pressured as in your life was in danger, you should have gone to your RA or advisor or someone else.

If you feel strongly that your sorority violated your personal rights, hazed you and/or otherwise coerced you, you have an obligation to report it to:
1) your chapter adviser
2) the campus greek adviser
3) the sorority's national headquarters

Collegiate chapters sometimes suffer a breakdown in common sense, and bad things happen. You have an obligation to speak out and help both yourself and the chapter to heal. Talk to your family and close friends. It helps to be near people you've had a strong rapport with when you're feeling down. Those people will help you to be happy again and empower you to do the right thing by holding the sorority accountable for misleading you, hazing, etc.

If that is what has happened. You have posted conflicting stories on Greek Chat.

Per your other post about transferring: If you are transferring to a university where there is not a chapter of your sorority, you are granted alumna status (in most cases).

Once you have been fully initiated into an NPC or NPHC sorority, you may not join another NPC or NPHC sorority.

However, there are many other opportunities to find your niche on campus. Get involved with intramural sports, student government, the school newspaper, community service organizations, pre-professional and honor societies, special interest clubs, and more.

Greek Chat has given you all the answers you requested. It is up to you now to determine 1) if hazing went on and if you will report it, 2) if you will be transferring and making the arrangements to settle on the new campus (where no, you may not pledge or initiate another NPC/NPHC because you are already an initiate of another and 3) getting on with your life.

I recommend if you plan to stay around this message board that you "lurk" for a while and observe. And change your screen name. You haven't made a strong impression here. We don't support hazing, but we also don't support shady stories or pity parties. We've helped you out based on your questions. Now you have to log off the Internet and actually act on something. Good luck.

I have to COSIGN on this one...

Without judging or knowing the full circumstance, I don't know how anyone could be "forced" into a sorority. I can understand extreme peer pressure, but then that unfortunately would be about the person rather than the sorority.

I hope that you are able to make the best of a bad situation and use your influence to make the sorority a more positive experience for yourself and others. If you do decide to drop out, hopefully you'll be able to make peace with the situation, as you cannot join another National sorority (but could always join a non-NPC sorority if they exist at your campus!).

chalk it up to a GREAT learning experience for you!

This thread is definitely FISHY to me too. I also wanted to play devil's advocate and offer a suggestion. If you are being hazed and you don't know what's happening, it's definitely possible to show up and be forced into initiation without really knowing what's going on.

If this thread is for real, the only thing I can think of is for you to transfer to a different school with a chapter of your sorority. You'll still be a sister of XYZ, but the girls will be different so you would in effect be getting a different experience.

BUT... is this really something worth transferring for? :rolleyes:

Dah for real noooo!@#% :mad: ;) :)

Lay-dee, if that is your nayme, you cannot, re-pete can't, join another NPC! :D

I knew a loser who made his own local!:cool: You kan 2 :) :(

that and she changed her story from the other thread she posted when she said she decided that it wasn't for her...

I don't think we were harsh either.

She received WONDERFUL advice the first time she posted her scenario. Only the first time she didn't tell us that she was "forced to" initiate into the sorority.

By her starting up this drama all over again in ANOTHER thread -- not to mention informing us this time around that she was initiated against her own will, one can't help but think that this is suspicious. Like Dani said, if she was initiated at gunpoint or she initiated a la the Sopranos, then she could have had out before I-Day.

I think what pisses people off the most is the fact that she was told over and over again that she cannot initiate into another NPC. What part of that does she not understand that she had to start another thread because a SENIOR NOT IN HER SORORITY misinformed her about some loophole in rushing once again?

She wants to cheat the friggin' system. I don't want any girl who cheats the NPC to wear my letters. That's just plain dishonesty right there.

So Phyllis, if you want to hold her hand and let her know that everything's gonna be okay, just make sure she knows she can't initiate into another NPC sorority. That's all.

KTHXBI.

Okay, maybe I'm missing something...what other thread did this person post in? I missed the "first" posting...

Are we sure this is the same poster? I'm not doubting...just asking...

yep. you can search for a particular poster's threads, btw.

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=60339

Thanks kddani! I guess this is the same person...how interesting...I would've never caught on...

Okay...all credibility has been lost...unless something has happened between the first posting on 12/5 to today's posting...I guess we need to know the whole story first...

I don't see how anyone can be forced into being initiated. You're gonna have to give us more credit. We've all been around the block once or twice. And, a few of us have already heard your first "excuse" for wanting another NPC.

It's all really been said above.

I will add that there are LOTS of us who have been at expensive universities far away from home. But, we didn't try and use that as an excuse for either poor judgement or bad experiences. It's called GROWING UP and TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS. Blaming everyone else and saying they are the reason you are faced with the current undesirable situation is very unbecoming of any NPC member and lady.

Take a step back and think about your words and actions. After reading your posts, I can only say that it is time to lay in the bed you've made. Good luck.

And then when they ask you to take an oath, pledge, or some other way of asking you to join, you say NO. I'm sure every organization has that somewhere in their initiation ceremony.

If you're being hazed and don't know what's happening- you do actually know what's happening- you're being hazed!

The only way to have a fair excuse that you don't know what's going on would be if you were drugged, and that's pretty far fetched.

Like I said, unless she had a gun to her head, she had a choice.

It's also fairly obvious that this was a fly by poster that doesn't seem to be coming back

Ask Dionysus. She walked out of hers. :p :)

Yes I'm tacky and quoting myself. I still think the same thing

This thread has me CTFU. How did I miss this?

I didn't really just up and leave during my initiation, lol. I was escorted out by two actives. Yeah, it's best to decide if you want to stick with the sorority BEFORE you go to initiation. I did express indirectly that I didn't want to go through it. I DID felt pressured to go into initiation, but not forced.

You are so wise.

Re: is this possible?
 

Oh yeah...don't listen to her. A few BITCHES from another sorority told me the same thing. As I was quitting, the president from my sorority told me no. The greek advisor said maybe. I went on GC to ask...and no comment what they told me here. I never found the right answer...and it really doesn't matter now because I graduated.

When I was active in Alumnae Panhellenic, we found out about a girl who pledged at a school in Cali, did not like it, transferred to a school in Ohio, and without ever formally depledging at her old school, she pledged another NPC group and was initiated at her Ohio school.

Now, no longer being a student may have automatically "de-pledged" her, but we were all confused because some alums from various groups said they considered it a depledging because the girl was no longer a university student, but others insisted that their groups required the pledge to sign a form, and that created the mandatory year long wait, no matter where she was enrolled.

None of us notified either of the groups, because we didn't want to be the"bitches" to tattle on this girl.

I do know this is different for an active, but don't the fraternities have a different scenario?

Originally posted by Rudey
Dah for real noooo!@#%


"I knew a loser who made his own local! You kan 2 "
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You can get off of my ass or kiss it which ever you wish to do!

If this person had problems, I guess She doesnt now from post placed as she has not been back.

from the Panhellenic Compact:

7. When a pledge transfers to another campus, her pledge is broken, and she is eligible to pledge an NPC fraternity on that campus at the earliest opportunity.

I venture to guess that this applies to most social fraternities that are inter/national in scope and do not belong to the NIC.

You should change your name and identity and re-rush-

Haha, I would be interested to meet a person who would go to all that trouble to rush.

she'd end up being the first woman president. You'd be called the First Gentleman. Then, one day after her second ingauration, you'll be sipping champenge, and she'll tell you some top secret information and then get paranoid and have the secret service kill you and make it look like a stroke or a car crash or something. That's a dangerous road, my friend. Trust me, you do not wish to travel down it.

The scenario doesn't sound too crazy too me. I have actually heard of a chapter who initiated a girl who stopped paying and attending new member events because they needed to improve their numbers. I don't know if she attended the actual initiation ceremony but she was listed as a member on paper. She eventually disaffiliated.

But pledging isn't the issue here anyway. She wasn't a pledge, she initiated didn't she? In which case she's never eligible to join another NPC, even if she were to turn in her old letters.

Anyone who is active in an NPC knows that full well too. Unless she had no pledge class (new member, whatever) at all, which I find hard to believe. But we're all told before we initiate that it's for life. Once you've witnessed ritual there's no turning back.
So I too find the threads a bit shifty.

I was replying to Anchor Alum's question - not the original poster's. The original poster is SOL.