Another Colorado Student Dies...
 

While not a Greek this time, newspaper and broadcast reports yesterday say that alcohol probably caused the death of a sixth student at Colorado schools this year.

This one at Colorado State where Samantha "Sam" Spady died earlier this semester.

AND ANOTHER ONE
 

9 News reporting this morning that a UNC (Greeley) student was found dead early this morning...

No other details yet...monitoring this one closely.

All red states.

How is that relevant?

Re: AND ANOTHER ONE
 

With your "and another one" subject line . . i keep hearing that 80's song . . . "and another one gone and another one gone . . . and another one . . . ."

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNA...7-c589c01ca7bf

You might also want to read the sidebar story on other Colorado alcohol deaths. There is a link to it on the story on the link above.

Before college, do kids in your state just have incredible parties throughout high school or something?

-Rudey

Interesting thought. Colorado does tend to be fairly white collar.

However, at least two of the victims have been from out of state.

The latest victim is from here in the Denver area.

Not sure about the others.

Wasn't Samantha Spady from a tiny little town in Nebraska? I can easily see how someone from a tiny little town would party like it's 1999 the second she hits a college campus, but that's just me.

If the culture is there from partying throughout high school and into college...

Well that is what I would guess it is.

I see the same kind of kids who would have keg parties in high school. I see them deciding between the really great party schools. They hear about how fun it would be to surf, tan, and then hop in for a class at a school that is more like a resort or they hear about how princeton review ranked a school as a never-ending party. They drive in their mom's new SUV to keggers in the burbs and why should they stop in college? These kids might end up just going to these schools like Colorado.

I wonder what would happen if the school just sent in more cops to bars to ID folks and patrolled houses as soon as they heard noise sounding like a party.

-Rudey

I understand the logic, but some of the deaths were at places like Ft. Lewis College and Colorado College -- hardly known as party schools.

Yes, to another question above, Samantha Spady was from a small Nebraska community where she was "Miss Everything," including Homecoming Queen, Head Cheerleader, Class Officer and all of the other stuff.

I should add that there was a story on local TV last night that the now disbanded fraternity chapter where Spady was found has started an alcohol awareness campaign built around "Ace of Spades" cards (their symbol for Spady) which they are passing all over campus.

This second death at Colorado State has really shocked a lot of people. The people who live at the house where the latest victim was found, and the party was held, didn't even know him.

Very sad. Sounds like perhaps the entire community needs some prayers. It starts with the community and then spreads it way out to the university. My cousin goes to college in CO at Regis. Anyway, I will prayer for them all.

Maybe the campuses in Colorado should find another outlet for students to do something instead of drinking? No, I know, that's assinine. But the state seems to be racking up some numbers this fall, and it's pretty scary!

Disregard UNC student
 

Apparently, I was thankfully mistaken. No UNC student died over the weekend...

However, there was a news story about UNC last night on the news...it seems 14...FOURTEEN UNC students have been taken to the ER this semester for excessive alcohol.

Last YEAR, there were a total of 4 students. So there has been a significant increase in the numbers.

High School to College???
 

I tend to see the opposite happen from High School to College....especially with girls....the parents are strict in high school and they aren't allowed to go to parties, date, etc. then they go to college and go WILD.....at least in these parts.

I think I did my fair amount of partying at both, but never wild...my parents were never strict, so I didn't have that desire to go nuts once I got to college...

Re: Disregard UNC student
 

Part of that is probbaly because of increased education. Better to be safe than sorry so to speak.

I know of several people that were taken to the ER when they didn't need it because people were freaked after all the alcohol education. The kids just ended up sleeping it off . . an expensive bed rest.

I guess thats a good thing.,

I saw something on the news last night about this kid -- apparently he had quite the growing record of criminal charges. I think there were three drinking related charges, two for marijuana and a DUI. It sounds like he had some serious issues.

The easiest way to counter this is to have the police and administration crack down.

Noise complaint, send in the cops.

Drinking outside, send in the cops.

Bust the chops of the vendors that sell the alcohol to make sure they stop selling to minors. This includes bars as well.

Get Colorado off the lists for party schools and onto the boring schools, etc.

-Rudey

Hey, I'm heading up to the J-School holiday party in Boulder tonight, and I'll be sure to bring that up!

Of course, we'll probably have to move the mountains, too, since that's why a lot of party folks want to come here.

Call in the COPs, way to go in your thinking!

If that is the way of cureing things then I am glad you are not a Brother of Mine!

DeltAlum, Hope You had a Good time!:)

Kids will be kids, yepper, get out from parental control and have none! Go Crazy, have a good time and Die!:(

Why is it that The 1 % of Kids are singled out everytime there is a death from drinking. It is going to happen. Usually Greeks Try to Take Care of Greeks or at least that was the way We did it in The OLD DAYS!

Nice Signature dimwit!:rolleyes:

They won't do it of course right? The same way they wouldn't crack down on partying by breaking up every party.

It's what brings kids to the school...it's what makes money for the school.

The only way it will change is if kids stop coming because the deaths are too much bad publicity and hence they make less money OR if there are some expensive law suits.

-Rudey

Well, while granting the point to some extent, let's be fair and not paint the entire university and student body with the same brush.

Things like the Princeton Review, in which the University of Colorado (CU) generally places high on the Party School list don't help -- and certainly some kids are going to come to Boulder at least partially because of that reputation.

However, there are many other excellent reasons for attending CU including Nobel Laureats on the faculty, outstanding programs in a number of areas and other lifestyle issues that draw people to Colorado.

In particular, the sciences, medicine and law.

It's also important to point out that only one of the six deaths occurred on the Boulder Campus. Two were at Colorado State, and the others at much smaller schools -- a couple that nobody really ever hears about.

Colorado College at Colorado Springs has the reputation of a highly academic liberal arts school and is seldom thought of in the same sentence with the word "party."

Local news reports indicate that this latest victim has a history from high school (here in Denver) of drug and alcohol arrests, so it's an example of the university inheriting his problem.

That is not to say that some people don't come to Boulder because of the reputation -- just as some people attend Ohio University (my alma mater) because it generally places high on the Party School list. We (Delt) will probably never recolonize at Colorado because of alcohol and drug problems in our former chapter there which was closed three times.

I'm not saying it's not a serious problem -- just that it isn't one that is found only at Boulder, or in Colorado.

Maybe a start would be to ban the ridiculous Princeton Review -- but that would probably be an infringement on their First Amendment rightsg, wouldn't it?

I thought colleges had the option to opt out of the list. I know certain colleges aren't ranked on other lists because the faculty doesn't desire it.

No I don't think it's just Colorado, but I do think certain colleges really do milk the party aspect of college life. Just recently a California CHRISTIAN college sent out recruiting info with a student in front of a baseball field I believe with a caption that read something like this: "See Johnny play the field" and on the flip side of that was Johnny surrounded by girls and it said "and keep on playing the field".

What does this say?

These colleges are bringing in kids who are higher risk and Greeks are taking the blame when it is the entire school population that has these problems. I believe that it will pay off very well for fraternities like Delt which have chosen to not recolonize problem schools.

-Rudey

Nightly news
 

Both NBC and ABC had long stories about college drinking problems Tues. night, including reporters standing in front of GLO houses with the Letters clearly visible.

The U Oklahoma upcoming ban on booze on campus was repeatedly mentioned, and the UOK pres interviewed.

ABC (I think) flatly stated that "Samantha Spady died after consuming 40 drinks at the Sigma Pi house" - a flat out lie.

Do you suppose that there will be a campus-wide party at Oklahoma the night before the ban goes into effect?