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Rudey 12-07-2004 12:23 PM

Danger of expanding into Devry
 
In my day we did many thing,
things of many. It is disheartening
to see a GLO at Devry. It makes
me question why this happens. Soon
it will be a clown college. So why
do you GLOs insist on being at Devry.
I have many years of experience
with the Greek system. My age
should get you to overlook that I write
like this.

TheEpitome1920 12-07-2004 12:25 PM

Really??? A social organization?? I knew they had professional fraternities.

Rudey 12-07-2004 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Really??? A social organization?? I knew they had professional fraternities.
Well young one,
I cannot name
them. In fact it is
difficult to make
sense of what I
post. But the
danger is there
and clear.

33girl 12-07-2004 12:26 PM

This is not real. Rudith is writing a satire.

Rudey 12-07-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
This is not real. Rudith is writing a satire.
Satire? You young
younguns don't
appreciate our
effort. I went to
college many years
ago. I have a high
gpa from a school
that does noooooot
exist. I also worked
at a community college.
I know about this.
Do not mess with this.
I will burn my dirty
depends on your doorstep.

Erik P Conard 12-07-2004 02:16 PM

DeVry brothers--TKEs
 
The brothers DeVry were Tekes at Gamma chapter, U of IL
in late 30s or early 40s. TKE has not been courted to place a
chapter at any of their locations. And I doubt they would put
a chapter at any of them. I hear there is an AEPi colony at one
or two of them. But this has not been corroborated.

33girl 12-07-2004 02:33 PM

Oh snap.

Rudey 12-07-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Oh snap.
Dearest girl we have seen
fraternities at many schools.
Some are teaching college.
Some are textile colleges.
It might be strange for some
to be at the Philadelphia
college of textiles but not
for others. I have seen,
through the years, many
fraternities open up at fine
schools including Miami-
Dade Community College and
Rio Community College where
great minds can work on
their Associate degrees and
be Greek. Later on in life
they too can volunteer with
their fraternity and brag
about a gpa that is higher
than the US deficit. Great
men, many a man, has come
out with an Associate degree.
They aspire to put purchases
of customers into bags at the
grocery store and volunteer
with their org and brag about
their degree.

GeekyPenguin 12-07-2004 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Dearest girl we have seen
fraternities at many schools.
Some are teaching college.
Some are textile colleges.
It might be strange for some
to be at the Philadelphia
college of textiles but not
for others. I have seen,
through the years, many
fraternities open up at fine
schools including Miami-
Dade Community College and
Rio Community College where
great minds can work on
their Associate degrees and
be Greek. Later on in life
they too can volunteer with
their fraternity and brag
about a gpa that is higher
than the US deficit. Great
men, many a man, has come
out with an Associate degree.
They aspire to put purchases
of customers into bags at the
grocery store and volunteer
with their org and brag about
their degree.

Rudith, you are truly a great man, a Greek among Greeks.

Lil' Hannah 12-07-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Rudith, you are truly a great man, a Greek among Greeks.
DA! Rudey has done great things in the Greek community! :D :D

Founded a chapter! :cool:

Started a local alumni chapter!:cool: :D

Donated to philanthropy!

Mastered the English language!!:o :cool: :D

PhiPsiRuss 12-07-2004 02:52 PM

The truckdriver schools. Don't forget the truckdriver schools.

GeekyPenguin 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

Truck drivers are angels without wings!

33girl 12-07-2004 02:54 PM

This thread makes me thirsty. I think I'll have a Snapple.

Little E 12-07-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
It might be strange for some
to be at the Philadelphia
college of textiles but not
for others.

It's now called Philadelphia University, or something like that.

Rudey 12-07-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Truck drivers are angels without wings!
I just spit my earl grey
tea with added fiber up.
You young whipper snappers
are going to be impressed
when after expanding
at community colleges,
Greeks colonize at the
University of Phoenix and
learn about trucking online.

PhiPsiRuss 12-07-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
You young whipper snappers...
What is a "whipper snapper?" I've always wanted to know.

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Little E
It's now called Philadelphia University, or something like that.
You don't remember because
you are so young but the
name changed in 1999. One
fraternity was there when
it was a textile school and left.
Maybe it left because it changed
the name and wanted to be
associated with a skill that
third world workers would
give an arm and a leg for.
To work the loom is a wonderful
thing.

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
What is a "whipper snapper?" I've always wanted to know.
Rub some clearasil on your face
because back when I knew
Webster and he helped found a
colony of a fraternity he was
determined never to put such
colloquial slang into our beloved
dictionaries. Now America is ruined
because some dictionaries even
have the world blog defined.

GeekyPenguin 12-07-2004 03:10 PM

I think the greatest danger of expansion is that which comes from fraternities which expand at campuses with known hazing problems just so they can say they have yet another chapter and someday, somehow, they will catch SigEp and SAE.

PhiPsiRuss 12-07-2004 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think the greatest danger of expansion is that which comes from fraternities which expand at campuses with known hazing problems just so they can say they have yet another chapter and someday, somehow, they will catch SigEp and SAE.
It depends on how you approcah it. We turned down an interest group at Ohio University (where we would like a chapter) because the interest group was a risk management problem. We accepted an interest group at Oneonta, where there are huge hazing problems, because of the caliber of the group, and their commitment to form a responsible fraternity.

Also, why would anyone want to "catch SigEp and SAE?"

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think the greatest danger of expansion is that which comes from fraternities which expand at campuses with known hazing problems just so they can say they have yet another chapter and someday, somehow, they will catch SigEp and SAE.
It is true. In this day
and age we have a
Walmart mentality
when it comes to
expansion. This hurts
us. Back in the 1700's
when I was a young
boy who played in the
streets of colonial
Williamsburg, I used
to push a big bicycle
wheel around with a stick
and wear little shorts
with suspenders and
a cabby hat. I wondered
then too where the risk
was worth it.

GeekyPenguin 12-07-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
It depends on how you approcah it. We turned down an interest group at Ohio University (where we would like a chapter) because the interest group was a risk management problem. We accepted an interest group at Oneonta, where there are huge hazing problems, because of the caliber of the group, and their commitment to form a responsible fraternity.

Also, why would anyone want to "catch SigEp and SAE?"

So they can come onto GC and say their fraternity is the biggest.

PhiPsiRuss 12-07-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
So they can come onto GC and say their fraternity is the biggest.
Kind of like those who started 15 chapters, 22 of which have folded?

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Kind of like those who started 15 chapters, 22 of which have folded?
Did they not teach you
math in public school?
You cannot have 22
chapters fold if you
have 15. It makes
no sense. Clearly you
do not respect your
elders if you cannot
do math. After I light
my Depends on fire
on 33girl's doorsteps,
I will come for you.

kddani 12-07-2004 03:24 PM

this has gotta be in the top 10 GC satire threads

PhiPsiRuss 12-07-2004 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Did they not teach you
math in public school?
You cannot have 22
chapters fold if you
have 15. It makes
no sense. Clearly you
do not respect your
elders if you cannot
do math. After I light
my Depends on fire
on 33girl's doorsteps,
I will come for you.

Yes sir!!!

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
this has gotta be in the top 10 GC satire threads
If not for anything
else then but for
me discussing how
I played with a wheel
and a stick. In those
days I used to have
pajamas with flaps on
the bottom. My mother
would be upset when
I left a stain. Do you
know what I'm talking
about? I wish I had
a picture. I wish
fraternities would consider
the schools they go
into so they are not
stained pajamas or
risky wheels being pushed
with sticks by boys wearing
cabby hats.

KSigkid 12-07-2004 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think the greatest danger of expansion is that which comes from fraternities which expand at campuses with known hazing problems just so they can say they have yet another chapter and someday, somehow, they will catch SigEp and SAE.
It's true, you really have to be careful about expansion. Trying to get too big too quickly can get you in trouble, stretching resources and people in impossible situations.

Personally, as long as my chapter and the fraternity as a whole are strong, that's the important thing to me. If you're a member of ABC, I don't think the goal should be catching XYZ, but making ABC strong.

It will be an interesting trend to see how well some of these chapters fare with the emphasis on agressive expansion.

RUASTgrrl 12-07-2004 03:34 PM

I work for DeVry Its a great institution; offering Associates, Bachelors, and Master's programs in Business, Information and Technology.

GeekyPenguin 12-07-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
It's true, you really have to be careful about expansion. Trying to get too big too quickly can get you in trouble, stretching resources and people in impossible situations.

Personally, as long as my chapter and the fraternity as a whole are strong, that's the important thing to me. If you're a member of ABC, I don't think the goal should be catching XYZ, but making ABC strong.

It will be an interesting trend to see how well some of these chapters fare with the emphasis on agressive expansion.

Totally agree with you - I have seen so many chapters of a few particular fraternities struggling because their HQ is overextended. I'd rather be in a very strong middle-sized sorority (which I am) than be in a huge one that's overextended and not providing for its' chapters.

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RUASTgrrl
I work for DeVry Its a great institution; offering Associates, Bachelors, and Master's programs in Business, Information and Technology.
I know of a fraternity
that has chapters at
quite a few schools
offering associate
degrees and certificates
in working with a
textile loom. Should I
forward you their
information? But be
careful because you acne
faced kids are too
young to understand
these things.

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Totally agree with you - I have seen so many chapters of a few particular fraternities struggling because their HQ is overextended. I'd rather be in a very strong middle-sized sorority (which I am) than be in a huge one that's overextended and not providing for its' chapters.
http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/weaving.jpg

This woman is using a
loom. I believe she
is also in a sorority.
Notice her toga outfit.
Greeks love looms as
it typifies our strong
values.

sugar and spice 12-07-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Oh snap.
I think that about sums this thread up.

Quality thread, Rudith, quality thread.


Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think the greatest danger of expansion is that which comes from fraternities which expand at campuses with known hazing problems just so they can say they have yet another chapter and someday, somehow, they will catch SigEp and SAE.
Definitely. Sad as it is to say, the chance of a fraternity expanding to the UW and not succumbing to the hazing culture among frats here is pretty slim . . . yet we've had two new colonies formed here in the past year. I know guys across the Greek system, including these fraternities, and a lot of them are great guys, but that doesn't stop them from perpetuating a hazing culture.

I think that the UW will be a hazing school, at least on the fraternity side, until there's either a major movement from several fraternity HQs to put the smack down on hazing or we rebuild from the ground up. Neither of those are very plausible.

SurfinDBeach 12-07-2004 03:46 PM

LOL...
 
Very entertaining thread... :) LOL... :D

But yeah, expansion into Devry would be a very bad decision in my humble opinion...

GO BEACH!!!

33girl 12-07-2004 03:48 PM

OK, now I'm afraid to go home tonight for fear of flaming poopypants. I've just recovered from having ACTUAL DEER BONES on my porch in my neighbor's Halloween display.

I think all sizes of GLOs can overextend - I would sooner see my sorority not expand for 10 years and have all our chapters be strong, than have them open a chapter a year in that period and close 7 of them.

Rudey 12-07-2004 03:50 PM

Do you know about
the pajamas with
the butt flaps or the
wheel you push
around with a stick?


Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I think that about sums this thread up.

Quality thread, Rudith, quality thread.




Definitely. Sad as it is to say, the chance of a fraternity expanding to the UW and not succumbing to the hazing culture among frats here is pretty slim . . . yet we've had two new colonies formed here in the past year. I know guys across the Greek system, including these fraternities, and a lot of them are great guys, but that doesn't stop them from perpetuating a hazing culture.

I think that the UW will be a hazing school, at least on the fraternity side, until there's either a major movement from several fraternity HQs to put the smack down on hazing or we rebuild from the ground up. Neither of those are very plausible.


navane 12-07-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
What is a "whipper snapper?" I've always wanted to know.

Ooh! Ooh! Allow me!

"Whipper-snapper: A 'whipper-snapper' is an inexperienced and frequently precocious young person who is probably so called after a 'whipster', literally 'a cracker of whips' who was portrayed as a lively, mischevious individual."

-- From "Lock, Stock & Barrel: Familiar Sayings and their Meanings" published by Past Times.


I got this book for Christmas two years ago.....I knew it would eventually come in handy some day! :D

.....Kelly :)

Erik P Conard 12-07-2004 04:02 PM

--shopping centers...
 
well, we can go to cooking schools, to automotive ones, to
extensions, to just about everything...just think, we can count
the potential chapters by scoping out the shopping centers and
malls. And Mason City School of Auctioneerying, Cleveland College
for Chiropractors, Bruce's Cosmetology Institute, golly...so many
potential ones...in fact, we might even get on-line ones and not
have a hazing problem....goll-ee...the potential is unlimited. And
perhaps we could name Rudith Dean of Girls...well, never mind,
let him write the humor and some of the girls can proof it. Or
even better, let Tom proof it.

kddani 12-07-2004 04:04 PM

Re: --shopping centers...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
...in fact, we might even get on-line ones and not
have a hazing problem...

au contraire
http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...threadid=60090

Sistermadly 12-07-2004 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
This thread makes me thirsty. I think I'll have a Snapple.
BWAHAHAHAHAH! :D


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