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IowaStatePhiPsi 12-03-2004 12:44 PM

Another Reason Iowa State Sux
 
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"hey- you know those lance armstrong bracelets?"
"yeah- everyone's got one"
"let's rip off the idea and make them to support the cyclones"
"cancer, cyclones- close enough!"

fucktards.

sageofages 12-03-2004 01:05 PM

Big deal ISU has a red one to "copy" the yellow on Lance
wore..using your position...they both sux!

So wearing a bracelet to support something is a new idea???

THINK he could have STOLEN the idea from the MIA/POW bracelets worn in the Vietnam Era???

Mine was silver (not yellow or red) and it accomplished the same thing...keeping a cause in the public eye!

valkyrie 12-03-2004 01:24 PM

I don't know, but it seems a little tacky to me. Supporting a cause and supporting a team are two different things. I wouldn't be bothered if they came out with pink wristbands for breast cancer or red ones for AIDS or anything like that, but it just seems somehow wrong to use the idea for a sports team.

AlphaSigOU 12-03-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by sageofages
So wearing a bracelet to support something is a new idea???

THINK he could have STOLEN the idea from the MIA/POW bracelets worn in the Vietnam Era???

Mine was silver (not yellow or red) and it accomplished the same thing...keeping a cause in the public eye!

At least POW/MIA bracelets are of a much durable metal than plastic. My POW/MIA bracelet is hiding around the house somewhere - just gotta find it.

sugar and spice 12-03-2004 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know, but it seems a little tacky to me. Supporting a cause and supporting a team are two different things. I wouldn't be bothered if they came out with pink wristbands for breast cancer or red ones for AIDS or anything like that, but it just seems somehow wrong to use the idea for a sports team.

I totally agree. I think it's fine if you're copying the idea so you can create something that will raise money for a worthy cause, but I don't really think that supporting a sports team is on the same level as cancer.

ISUKappa 12-03-2004 01:59 PM

For the love of Pete, Joel, do you like anything about Iowa State? Why are you even there when all you can do is bitch about it. All the time. Super PR there, buddy.

Guess what, for the low-low price of $1000k, you can have your own colored, branded silicone bracelet with whatever you want. Of course, you'll have over a thousand of them, but hey! It's a free market and not a unique idea.

Nike Baller ID bracelets are the same exact thing. I've seen "All In" in reference to Poker and "Support our Troops" ones.

I have a feeling the bracelets were around way before they were used in connection with Lance Armstrong and Livestrong, that's just what people associate with them now.

And Iowa State may feel some affinity with the idea as it was an ISU alumnus who came up with the "LiveStrong" motto.
It says so here.

And the ones Iowa State is doing, they're handing out for free so it's not like the school is making money off them. It's just another way to show support, like a t-shirt or a pom pom or a temporary tattoo. Big whoop.

KSigkid 12-03-2004 02:44 PM

Haha, wow, I've heard of people disliking their schools, but you take it to a whole other level sometimes.

The timing of the promotion isn't in the best taste, but I think that you'll see things like this more and more with the popularity of the "Live Strong" bands.

Kevlar281 12-03-2004 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Sports Illustrated On Campus
Knockoff “LiveStrong” Team Wristbands: Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Virginia Tech are just a few of the schools that have their own versions of Lance Armstrong’s, only less ugly – slightly.
I just read about this yesterday.

EEKappa 12-03-2004 04:43 PM

It could be worse...
 
I recently went to a conference and one of the vendors was giving away bracelets in its company color with the company name on them. How convenient, all the attendees could give them free advertising!

KSig RC 12-04-2004 06:51 PM

nah, iowa state sucks b/c they lost to UNI by 18 (and were down 30 most of the 2nd half) . . .




. . . on the other hand, the wristbands aren't a big deal. guys, there's much more to the 'live strong' campaign than the bands, it's not like they're saying "ISU over cancer!" and it's not like ISU isn't a research university. Lighten the f- up dudes.


And jesus, I'm a lifelong hawk fan, and i think ISUphipsi cares for ISU less than i do . . . surreal

queequek 12-04-2004 07:24 PM

Re: Another Reason Iowa State Sux
 
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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi

fucktards.

:eek: Are you for real? This sounds like our Homecoming skit for Y-L-H my freshman year, when a Longhorn disguised himself as a Cyclone and tried to ruin the homecoming game. Of course we were there to prevent this to happen ;)

Seriously, dude, most people like their schools, otherwise might as well transfer to the school you like.

ISUKappa 12-04-2004 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
nah, iowa state sucks b/c they lost to UNI by 18 (and were down 30 most of the 2nd half) . . .
Almost as painful as our loss last Saturday, but not quite because the basketball game wasn't for the championship. I don't even want to think about the wrestling meet tomorrow night.

lifesaver 12-05-2004 12:52 AM

Texas A&M has the bracelets out in maroon too. Dotn know if its the school or a club or bookstore or something, but have seen them around for a few weeks.

ISUKappa 12-05-2004 01:21 AM

Re: Re: Another Reason Iowa State Sux
 
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Originally posted by queequek
:eek: Are you for real? This sounds like our Homecoming skit for Y-L-H my freshman year, when a Longhorn disguised himself as a Cyclone and tried to ruin the homecoming game. Of course we were there to prevent this to happen ;)
I remember that skit!!!

KSigkid 12-05-2004 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by lifesaver
Texas A&M has the bracelets out in maroon too. Dotn know if its the school or a club or bookstore or something, but have seen them around for a few weeks.
I just think it's going to be something we're going to see all over the place for a while. It's the new fad, and if people keep buying them, companies will keep making them. Again, I don't see the big problem with it, but maybe that's just me.

queequek 12-05-2004 03:39 AM

Re: Re: Re: Another Reason Iowa State Sux
 
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Originally posted by ISUKappa
I remember that skit!!!
You betcha! A classic Y-L-H skit! ;)

wreckingcrew 12-05-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by lifesaver
Texas A&M has the bracelets out in maroon too. Dotn know if its the school or a club or bookstore or something, but have seen them around for a few weeks.
Its something that Coach Fran used this year to unify the football team. In keeping with his theme this year about playing for the names on the front of the jerseys instead of the names on the back.

All the players wear em, and fans were able to buy them through the bookstores.

Using mr. self-hating's Cyclone's rationale, i suppose that we should stop having different colored lapel ribbons too. I mean, pink for breast cancer, red(i think) for AIDS, etc. They're all just rip-offs of the yellow ribbon people wore or displayed showing their support of troops overseas. All those other causes are just disgracing the original.

KS 361

BlondeArcAngels 12-05-2004 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know, but it seems a little tacky to me. Supporting a cause and supporting a team are two different things. I wouldn't be bothered if they came out with pink wristbands for breast cancer or red ones for AIDS or anything like that, but it just seems somehow wrong to use the idea for a sports team.

One of my co-workers has a pink braclet for breast cancer. I don't know where he got it from, but I have seen them out there.

IowaStatePhiPsi 12-05-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Its something that Coach Fran used this year to unify the football team. In keeping with his theme this year about playing for the names on the front of the jerseys instead of the names on the back.

All the players wear em, and fans were able to buy them through the bookstores.

Using mr. self-hating's Cyclone's rationale, i suppose that we should stop having different colored lapel ribbons too. I mean, pink for breast cancer, red(i think) for AIDS, etc. They're all just rip-offs of the yellow ribbon people wore or displayed showing their support of troops overseas. All those other causes are just disgracing the original.

KS 361

It's one thing to have a ribbon or bracelet for a meaningful cause, but a disgrace if the idea is ripped off for a sports team. Especially a craptacular basketball team (shit- we did so much better when we had all those stoners on the team- proof that marijuana is a performance enhancing drug)

bluefish81 12-06-2004 01:57 AM

Here's a crazy thought. How about instead of posting on a message board that a school that you decided to attend sucks, you try to do something about it? Share your opinion on why you think the free item is dumb with a better audience, such as Iowa State students? Send a letter to the editor of the Daily, or the Ames Trib or post on a site with more ISU traffic like StrangeTalk or CampusAuthority.

I, personally, don't have a problem with these things. It's a free, promotional item, like those little poms that people giveaway or the red towels that were handed out at Homecoming. The purpose isn't real complex, it's an effort to show support for something. When I participated in Recruitment as an active member and even now, all the women wear little blue ribbons to display Panhellenic unity. I'm going to have to agree with AggieSigmaNu361 that with your logic of thinking, CPC is ripping off of previous ribbon efforts.

Also, there's a lot of these bracelets for so many different things now. I think four or five of my female cousins had them when I saw them at Thanksgiving. And according to other previous posters, it's not like ISU is the only school with these things, but they're not making a profit off of them either since they're free.

ADPiZXalum 12-06-2004 12:21 PM

I have to respectfully disagree about it being tacky or disrespectful or whatever. I understand everyone's point about equating cancer and football, there is no comparison, but I think it's just a new fad that people are using to support whatever it is they support.

ISUKappa 12-07-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
It's one thing to have a ribbon or bracelet for a meaningful cause, but a disgrace if the idea is ripped off for a sports team. Especially a craptacular basketball team (shit- we did so much better when we had all those stoners on the team- proof that marijuana is a performance enhancing drug)
And that "craptacular" basketball team just beat a ranked opponent.

bluefish81 12-07-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by ISUKappa
And that "craptacular" basketball team just beat a ranked opponent.
Dang, you beat me to it. :)

wreckingcrew 12-07-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
It's one thing to have a ribbon or bracelet for a meaningful cause, but a disgrace if the idea is ripped off for a sports team. Especially a craptacular basketball team (shit- we did so much better when we had all those stoners on the team- proof that marijuana is a performance enhancing drug)
Alright, so as of right now, NO MORE T-SHIRTS WITH SPORTS TEAM LOGOS ON THEM.

I mean, for years the ZTA's at A&M would sell shirts for their philanthropy with the proceeds going to breast cancer research. So, there's your precedent, as of now, no clothing can contain sports logos.

Oh and since PBS does it's yearly telethon to raise money for Muscular Dystrophy we can now no longer use televisions to watch sports.

Really, if you hate ISU so much, what is keeping you there? I'm sure that you could find a school that has a similar degree plan. I know that ISU is a great research institution, but surely there's something more to your liking. But you should probably avoid A&M. A big part of going to school there is our traditions and love of our school. Or are you just one of those people that like to bitch and moan but are too lazy to actually change things?

KS 361

IowaStatePhiPsi 12-07-2004 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
Really, if you hate ISU so much, what is keeping you there? I'm sure that you could find a school that has a similar degree plan. I know that ISU is a great research institution, but surely there's something more to your liking. But you should probably avoid A&M. A big part of going to school there is our traditions and love of our school. Or are you just one of those people that like to bitch and moan but are too lazy to actually change things?

KS 361

They increased my tuition 60% in 3 years. 3 years in means too late to get out. But after I graduate I will only donate a total of my 2 cents to Iowa State.

KSig RC 12-07-2004 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
They increased my tuition 60% in 3 years. 3 years in means too late to get out. But after I graduate I will only donate a total of my 2 cents to Iowa State.

Yeah . . . you forgot to mention that that's actually slightly lower than the increases at the other 2 major state schools.

Oh, you also forgot that this was part of a 6-year plan by the state to improve ISU, and which moved it from the dredges of tier-3 status solidly into the upper tier-2 range, alongside UI (thus increasing the amount your non-engineering degree is worth).

Throw in the new dorms, new business building, and the upgrades to funding in areas like, oh, let's say the Greek system, and even a fanatical UI homer can see that state is doing good things with the money.

just saying.

KSigkid 12-07-2004 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
They increased my tuition 60% in 3 years. 3 years in means too late to get out. But after I graduate I will only donate a total of my 2 cents to Iowa State.
I think tuition increases are just a part of life at most college campuses now. What with technology improvements, housing improvements, etc., the money has to come from somewhere.

It's not the optimum, but I think it's now the standard at many schools.

EagleChick19 12-07-2004 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
They increased my tuition 60% in 3 years. 3 years in means too late to get out. But after I graduate I will only donate a total of my 2 cents to Iowa State.
I hate to tell you this, but tuition increases are a part of life anymore. When I graduated from my state school in May, they had raised my tuition about 75% in 4 years. And those increases had given the campus many things to improve (i.e. another on-campus apartment complex, and more parking.)

So, quit complaining! Do something about it. But, if you don't, you'll have no one to blame but yourself.

IowaStatePhiPsi 12-07-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by EagleChick19
So, quit complaining! Do something about it. But, if you don't, you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
I am doing something about it- never giving the rat bastards anymore than 2 cents on an oversized novelty check.

ISUKappa 12-07-2004 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
They increased my tuition 60% in 3 years. 3 years in means too late to get out. But after I graduate I will only donate a total of my 2 cents to Iowa State.
Cop. Out.

It's never too late to transfer. There have been people who have transferred the last semester of their senior year to graduate from a different school. Remember all those schools you said you had been accepted to? Then WTH did you choose to go to Iowa State? It sounds like someone's a Bitter Betty who's bitching for the sake of bitching.

Yeah, tuition raises suck. I had a few girls in my chapter who had to transfer because they couldn't afford the out-of-state tuition anymore, but that's what has to be done. If we didn't raise tuition then you'd probably be bitching about how the facilities suck and how how bad the sports teams are--oh wait, you already do that. You also find the most irrelevant, inconsequential information to spew out about my school when you do say something "postive" and then spin it into something negative. And the majority of the time, you're completely wrong!

Thankfully, there are plenty of other alumni who do care about my school and who are willing to donate their money. Lots of money, too. So we won't need yours, thanks.


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