Woeful Canucks unable to mount a decent protest
 

Born to Be Mild (from Opinion Journal)
President Bush is in Canada, of all places, and Toronto's Globe and Mail on Saturday ran a story warning that anti-American "protesters" were going to get violent. It doesn't seem to be happening. Agence France-Presse reports from Ottawa (that's the capital) that "journalists outnumbered demonstrators" at the early demos:

The first demonstration--of Palestinians and sympathisers of the Palestinian cause opposed to Washington's support of Israel--attracted less [sic] than 40 demonstrators.

According to a quick head count by journalists, the protest attracted 39 demonstrators, 42 journalists and television crew members and three police officers.

"A few thousand" did show up later at Ottawa's City Hall, according to the Associated Press, but it doesn't seem to have been violent or even interesting. They held up signs calling the president a "war criminal" and an "assassin." Lawrence Wueft, a 60-year-old sculptor from New Brunswick (up by Maine), held a sign that said, "Bush go home." And you know, he probably will.

Well, maybe Canadians are just polite. Or maybe they had better things to do. Like go to work.

See...no one cared that he was here.

I think I mentioned this in another thread.

Next story please.

The press seems to be pretty fixated on describing how Canada and the US have grown so far apart.

well.. the St. Lawrence Seaway is expanding... :D

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So, does this mean that a protest has to turn violent or resort to civil disobedience to be "interesting?"

Killarney Rose may have it right. Maybe the Canadians are just more polite.

The International Editor from the Globe and Mail had some very interesting comments on NPR yesterday -- but sharing them would just start a flame war.

Suffice it to say that Canada and the US simply have some fairly major disagreements.

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We are more polite... after all the first protest sign Bush saw was a large sign saying "Please Go Home"... and Bush was polite too... he thank us for "waving at him with all five fingers". :D

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It must be tough since he can't demand that everyone have an admission ticket and be Republican.

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zing!

The Protestors were NOT as violent..but if you ever think it might be cool to have President Bush visit your city well (with all due respect to the President) its a pain in the ASS! LOL I live in Ottawa and you couldn't get ANYWHERE!! Everything was blocked or detoured..and the protestors clogged up traffic.. I know security security..yeah we may be focused on getting to work but it was just about impossible to GET to work.

On another subject, I just wanted to say how disgusted I am with the American media's coverage..fox news is quoted as saying that they are "disgusted" with Canadians and CNN could ONLY focus on the protestors and our so called TERRIBLE and CHILLY reception and friendship between the two countries..talked about bias coverage..well at least the US journalists got their flu vaccine.lol they were crowding Ottawa Clinics for them.

Hell, even the propaganda machine is working overtime...

http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pi.../canadian1.jpg

:D

When I was Director of Production Services at the former TCI National Digital Television Center, President Clinton did a major policy speech from our building when the G-8 was in Denver.

It was actually pretty funny to watch, because besides me, the top management team had probably worked/televised a couple hundred presidential events -- but the younger people who worked the studios and master controls just absolutely freaked out because they had to park in different lots and couldn't use certain hallways in the building.

One guy actually asked me what to do if he wanted to walk down a hallway and a Secret Service Agent told him not to. Unbelievable. Those guys have guns and a very limited sense of humor.

Sorta brings home the WW2 saying:

"If the Germans are bombing, the Allies duck... if the British are bombing the Germans duck... if the Yanks are bombing everyone better duck..."


On another note... what the hell is up with Fox... hello GWB was THANKING the Canadians for sheltering Americans following 9/11.... and CNN what th f*ck is the deal with your problems getting spelling and facts straight about Ottawa?

Why don't you show us these quotes since you're so disgusted and you know how they are "quoted".

-Rudey

Anyone else enjoy the irony of GWB's thank-you visit to Halifax?

The fact that the people he was thanking for opening their homes & hearts, where out protesting against him was pretty classic...

I also enjoyed the silence that greeted him when he tried to defend his policy of pre-emptive war by quoting M. King.... um the Nazi actually where attacking countries... Iraq wasn't...

You won't let up will you?

Honestly go protest your own country's military commiting a war crime under NATO in Serbia. Hmmm perhaps you somehow had a solution to stop the mass murders under Saddam and it was called appeasement. And perhaps you had a solution to stop Saddam from getting around sanctions and it was called appeasement.

Since you can't stop attacking America, American policies, and American political figures then it's only fair to look at your country's failed policies and you being a member of a military known for war crimes.

-Rudey

One can dislike or hate Bush and still not hold those feelings about the US or Americans... in much the same way that one can hate you but not hate AEPi... apparently thats a distinction that is lost on you (and most rabid right-wingers). More importantly in Canada (and the US) one has the right to express you dislike or distaste for a leader, their policies, or their administration... in fact it happens all the time - that doesn't mean that these people are attacking Canada (or the US); they are attacking a person and their policies...

Finally please stop embarassing yourself with the pathetic, petty, and unfounded accusations against the Canadian Armed Forces. Unless you can present proof of your accusations (and not the cobbled together notes of a disgraced law professor) then please kindly cease in your hateful attacks of Canada, its people, and its military.

You are not just disliking Bush. But then again, it's easy for you to just make an excuse for your ignorance and extremism isn't it?

And let me repost again for you about your country:
Honestly go protest your own country's military commiting a war crime under NATO in Serbia. Hmmm perhaps you somehow had a solution to stop the mass murders under Saddam and it was called appeasement. And perhaps you had a solution to stop Saddam from getting around sanctions and it was called appeasement.

Now honestly keep on going around threatening to kill people and then talking about other countries so distastefully. It reflect awfully well on your fraternity, Lambda Chi Alpha, when guys like you who threaten to kill people and constantly insult others.

-Rudey
--You never stop...it's a shame

I'm betting that this thread gets locked at about 10:30pm EST.

You mean when moe.ron signs on and does his random thread locking and after everyone cringes at how RACooper is ignant?

-Rudey

Something like that.

Look I admit that I threatened you after you called me a pedophile, a child molester, and a rapist... your provocation caused me to cross the line and act in a manner un-befitting of a member of Lambda Chi Alpha... and I have said as much both privately to those who e-mailed me and in at least three threads...

But since you brought in the Fraternity I will ask you to recant your statements that are embarssing for any gentleman or Fraternity member to espouse:

Your racist and ignorant comments regarding my ethnic heritage.
Your accusations and implications of War Crimes commited by myself and the Canadian Armed Forces.
Your accusation labelling me a child molestor, pedophile, and rapist.
Your derogatory and demeaning remarks about Lambda Chi Alpha.
Your derogatory and hateful comments/attacks about Canada and its people in general (I don't care about debate and intelligent disagreement).
Your constant petty personal attacks on myself and others; insulting their background, upbringing, intelligence, education, religious beliefs, and politicial beliefs.


Please remember that it is possible to disagree without being disagreeable.

See, and that's really disappointing, because the thread is perfectly fine, it's just this squabble which is the same squabble we've all been listening to over and over and over.

Actually stop making up lies. You are making up lies here and to those who you messaged privately.

Nobody made racist remarks. In fact learn what racism is. Nobody made ignorant remarks either. You however admit that people call you racist and an anti-semite in real life.

War Crimes? Well the people who submitted NATO, including Canada's participation in the effort, to courts were the ones (on top of the victims) who really said the military you were a part of commited war crimes.

What remarks about you being a molestor? What was the remark? Tell me instead of making things up you violent thug.

Derogatory remarks about Lambda Chi Alpha? Please show me where. Please do this you liar and violent thug who has shamed your fraternity. Perhaps you're confusing me with yourself when you attacked AEPi's UToronto Chapter huh hateful one?

"Your derogatory and hateful comments/attacks about Canada and its people in general " What are you talking about? Stop making things up. You are so busy showing everyone how you hate Americans, America, and it's leaders that you think someone hates your country. Stop trying to project your own mental issues.

"Please remember that it is possible to disagree without being disagreeable. "

I disagree and you are disagreeable. You are hateful. You are violent. You are a liar. You are a thug that is no good.

-Rudey
--You are shameful

Yeah well if your Canadian friend could stop making every post an I-hate-America-I-hate-Americans-I-hate-Bush thread, then this thread would have been left alone but those are sad remarks from a shameful thug.

-Rudey