Best Rush Idea Ever
 

we had hot chicks wrestle in baby oil in our backyard ;) it was the greatest experience in my life lol

those girls could fight too, they were punching and everything!

Re: Best Rush Idea Ever
 

Did those girls pledge up?

oh, i need to state, that this was for our fraternity. we had like 5 girls come over and wrestle, and like 50 guys came and watched, but only like 10 of them became pledges LOL

I hope that you didn't pay the girls to wrestle.

10/50 = 20%. That's not the best rush idea ever.

its a small school, only 100 people rushed for all the frats, 5 of them

between the hazing you talked about in your hell week thread and this, your fraternity is looking like a class act :rolleyes:

um, i never once mentioned hazing, and its starting to piss me of, cuz i have never been hazed.

oh and we have the highest GPA on campus

if your post had said nothing wrong, then why did you delete it?

also, if you're as you say "well im fairly religious and dont belive in sex b4 marriage", how can you be all about this sort of thing?

And who cares about your GPA? That has nothing to do with this post.

Good grades do not equal good fraternity.

You really should look at how you're representing yourself and your fraternity on here

Cosign. I think you'll find that women who read about your fraternity having female wrestling will generally think much less of your fraternity.

So I cant be religions and join a fraternity? I see....

well, i came here and to talk about greek life and stuff, and get bashed, and not just my, my fraternity.

i think im just gona leave

Yuck. :rolleyes:

didn't say you couldn't be religious and in a fraternity.

But talking about women like this and bragging about having women wrestling? Saying you're religious and don't believe in premarital sex then talking about stuff like this is pretty hypocritical

im sorry, i didnt mean to offend girls here, i was just posting agood idea to get guys to come out.

and i guess it does sound hypacritical....

I *REALLY* wish I had a dollar for everytime said that.

Not trying to be snarky, really.

But I'd be rich right about now.

wow...this guy is getting OWNED by kddani...lol

And it's a Greekchat YAGE! (Yet Another Grand Exit)

Not to mention a ripped new one. :D Tee hee hee har har har

What a sad idea for a rush event. At a school I advise at, one of the fraternities wanted the women in sororities to do "foxy boxing", basically sorority women boxing against one another. We caught wind of the event, and well, let's just say none of the sororities ended up participating. A lot of collegiate women didn't understand why this wasn't a good idea (Hello, degrading women, using you as their entertainment, making fools of yourselves!), but once the fraternity found out that the women weren't doing it, they actually apologized to the sororities and all of the Greek community.

Interesting...

They didn't see it as abad thing until someone odler pointed it out to them?

Given the . . socially conservative . . . nature of many of the posters on here it makes me wonder if it really was such a bad idea.

Also, why are you guys giving hima hard time about his event?

On most campuses that would raise the fraternities profile. and trust me when I tell you that sororities would not be shunning them for it . . assuming they were cute bunch of guys.

Having 20 percent of the men that show up sign up to pledge after one event is pretty good actually.

James, i completely agree with you...most people on this board are really hard on newcomers in general, especially those who post things that they may not agree with. I'm not on here that much, but damn...people need to be a little nicer to one another!

Go Shadokat!!!! And all the others on here who are NOT in support of crap like this.

from what the OP has also said in other threads (and also deleted), this chapter was also doing some other VERY questionable activities and now seems to be in trouble or something

I haven't kept up with the boards as much as I would like lately, but this is sad to read. Really really sad. What people fail to realize too is that regardless of whether or not they are wearing letters on their chest, or advertising this as a "rush" event, everyone knows when they are in a GLO and which one. With all the risk management stuff "seemingly" going on these days, I find it difficult that many Greeks still openly engage in this behavior--and WANT to, as well. It's a shame. And then people wonder why they get bad reps as an organization.........I think it is wonderful that there are so many of us "older folks" around to help point some of our "youngins" in the right direction. If there weren't, even more negative behavior like this would be running rampant.

I am 24, and by no means a prude or conservative, but I have pride in myself and my letters.


I also want to add that the thread where the OP talked about the other stuff has since been deleted, probably at his own request

Yeah, I gotta say I'm usually one of the more liberal (aka putting my foot in my mouth) on this board, and I still don't see how anyone could think that a bunch of girls wrestling in oil is a good idea for a rush event (whether or not it was successful). It reminds me of the movie "Old School."

I dunno. Guys just like stuff like that. Thats why it was in the movie Old School.

Perhaps girls have a hard time fathoming that the same way guys might find it peculiar to have a bunch of PNM's bust into tears at a pref party just because the girls are standing around singing their sorority songs.

We wouldn't accept a group of men that burst into tears that way. It would wierd us out.

Men and women bond differently.

I think the point is - do guys actually pledge the fraternity because of this, or do they just show up to see the semi-nakedity? When we still had wet rush, TONS of guys showed up who had no intention of pledging. This is the same deal. If it doesn't get guys to sign a bid, it's useless as far as a rush event.

Oh yeah. Don't get me wrong, its not going to get a cool guy to join a bunch of social tools or "nice guy frat".

But a lot of guys will be impressed by a cool party like that with a bunch of cool guys. Its just a way of getting people there and making them notice.

LEt me put it another way. You aren't going to see many men on campus going . . . Kappa Sig? The group that has events like female oil wrestling? OH we could never be part of a group that gets good looking girls to strip down and wrestle like that . . . :p

So James, I used to have respect for you... It has all gone out the window. :rolleyes:

Seriously, though... I see your point about why guys like this... I'm just a little concerned about the girls that are doing it, and the greek life office that allows it. I mean, are these girls from sororities on campus? I sure hope not. And does the Greek Life Coordinator look the other way? I guess my concern wasn't for the guys that want to go see the event... I learned a long time ago that guys are pieces of crap... but what kind of situation this is happening in that it is allowed.

Frank: In this corner, weighing in at 110 pounds and pushing 89 years of age and the recent recipient of a brand new plastic hip, Joseph "Blue" Polaski. Are you sure you're ok with this, Blue?

Blue: Just ring the fucking bell, you pansy.


Sorry, but I had to throw in a quote from the movie, since you mentioned it!

On a related note, last August, members of a fraternity on my campus (which shall remain nameless) threw a party and decided to hold a Jello wrestling contest. Now, every sorority girl in her right mind knew better than to engage in that kind of skank-ariffic behavior, but we were at the party anyways, for socializing purposes. We were also there to see what summer freshman would be drunk and/or classless enough to try Jello wrestling, so we could remember her if in fact she decided to go through recruitment in the fall. The pot was up to about $100 for the winner, and 2 girls decided to go for it. They both stripped down, one conveniently had her bathing suit on (hmmmm, did she plan on doing this earlier that night while she was getting ready perhaps?), and the other wore her bra and panties! :eek: The boys had a grand old time, the sorority girls were taking pictures to have visual reminders of these girls for during membership selection, and the 2 girls got loose with it.

One of the lower moments for the fraternity in my opinion, if they were so into Jello, they should have made some shots!

Oh for the love of Pete. # 1, I am far from the prude or conservative on this board. #2, the events that men want to have to get guys to come to their houses sometimes are just wrong. Women wrestling in oil? Please. If these are the types of men you want in your fraternity James, that's fine by me. I think you may need to go back and read the mission statement of Kappa Sigma though to see that you're living up to the ideals of your fraternity with this event...for example:

The Fraternity should promote ethical behavior and decision-making.

The lessons taught from Fraternity ritual should be incorporated into the daily lives of the members. Kappa Sigmas are expected to act as gentlemen at all times, and the Fraternity must demand the highest standards of personal conduct. The Fraternity should instill a sense of responsibility and integrity. The dignity of all persons shall always be respected; intolerant or abusive behavior cannot be tolerated.

Oh my. You just preached our own credo at me.

Funny stuff.

If the girls were coerced or abused I could understand your viewpoint. If they are willing, thats their choice to participate.

Free will, individual responsibility, personal freedom and all that good stuff.

What you are tallking about is a more socially conservative attitude and socially conservative censures.

The same type of viewpoint that led Alabama to ban the sale and possession of vibrators (a year hard labor in jail) and label same sex relationships as crimes against nature.

Now you, much like the Alabama legislature, are obvioulsy entitled to your own opinion about these matters.

What is disconcerting is when people actively seek to prevent others from excercising their personal freedom either through some type of official ban or social pressure.

A sorority on my campus, which has a GOOD reputation, held a Jello wrestling contest to raise money. Yes, they were participating in it. They're the largest sorority, known for their very involved sisters as well as the highest GPA.(It was in the middle of the afternoon and they were all sober, BTW) So, it may not be always be that it's degrading. It's all about whether or not the girls are having fun, and not acting like sluts.

Conservative attitude or not, what would your Nationals think about girls rolling around in oil? C'mon already.

I don't get how promoting the degredation of women is a gentlemenly standard of conduct. The wrestling had nothing to do with rush, it had to do with a pornographic fantasy to see scantily clad women wrestle.

I'm sorry but I just find it kind of creepy, boys standing around googling girls. Maybe its just me, but rush should be about YOUR fraternity, not a bunch of 'hot chicks' wrestling. How about community service or brotherhood?

1) Having strippers is something that is done by many fraternities. It is done by men who are getting married even. Heck it's why the industry is so large. So this is nothing new.

2) How is this degrading women? It does not sit within the norms of comfort for many people and I can understand that, but how does it degrade you?

3) I would think waking up at 7AM on a Sunday and seeing many of your sisters streaming out of fraternities would be more degrading for you. Heck there are girls on Greekchat that reveal more about the dudes they've been with.

4) Remember free choice and free will. These women weren't forced into anything. The brothers who want to join and enjoy the fraternity will join. The girls who don't like this won't associate themselves with this fraternity.

5) This is one event within a context of many and we don't know what the rest are. I don't know what's going on with the hazing and whatnot but that is a cause for concern for many.

6) Whether or not this is something you can do and enjoy doing, remember that you're taking on the risk of bad PR as well (take a look on this thread for example).

-Rudey

Ok ok ok.

You are losing me with the whole "promoting the degredation of women . . ." My common sense tells me that is a wee bit of an over reaction.

This whole event is about on the level of leafing through Maxim magazine or FHM.

Do you view those as degrading to women? Are you being degraded if you choose to participate?

Are you froma red state or something? :p (sorry couldn't resist)

To me, this isn't the concern of whether this is freewill, socially acceptable, or whatever... To me, this is a concern of standards and how we are promoting the greek community. Yes, you can leaf through Maxim and see the same thing, but when girls posed for the College Girl issue of Playboy, they were promptly kicked out of the sorority. I think it's bad enough that there is a clear thought across campus that sorority girls are drunken sluts who conform to whatever someone tells them to conform to, but do we have to feed this thought? And, do we have to feed the thought that "frat guys" are nothing but drunken apes who treat women like crap? I mean, it's bad enough that sororities and fraternities alike have people in their chapters that exemplify this thought, but do we have to do a whole event based on it? I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't be OK with MY Executive Offices if we decided to sponsor a skit round with the theme "sorority girls are sluts." I know of a fraternity that refuses to be called a "frat" because of the connotations related to it. Yes, they still have guys who are complete jerks to women, but at least their stance as a whole is to portray themselves as a "fraternity" and not a "frat."

CarolinaDG has it. and in better wording.

I just don't see how oil wrestling has anything to do with positive Greek PR. Yes, the women have free will, no one said they didn't. But it doesn't mean we as a community need to support events that do not portray others well. I think both the men especially (as it was there idea) could do better. And the women, could perhaps find other ways to get attention.