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kiml122 12-18-2000 07:44 PM

Are they really a member?
 
On an episode of the show Moesha, she was going with this guy who was a Kappa. In the episodehe stepped and had the letters on and everything. Here is my question, when you see people on TV and they have on a certain fraternity or sororities letters (like a sweater) are they really a member. I hope this question can be answered and is not offensive, that is not my intent.

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NUPE4LIFE 12-19-2000 01:29 AM

I'm gonna assume that he was actually a Kappa. I know my organization would never license it's letters out so that they could be used in that way. I remember on 'Different World' you would see people in the background in greek pari. I think those people were actual greeks. I hope I answered your question.

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kiml122 12-19-2000 08:10 AM

N4L,

Thanks, that did answer my question. I figured as much also.

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Eclipse 12-19-2000 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE:
I'm gonna assume that he was actually a Kappa. I know my organization would never license it's letters out so that they could be used in that way. I remember on 'Different World' you would see people in the background in greek pari. I think those people were actual greeks. I hope I answered your question.

Actually Nupe4Life, I know someone who was a producer for A Different World (a cousin of a good friend of mine) and the people wearing the 'real' (I say real because there were some made up groups) fraternity and sorority shirts were not necessarily members of that organization, or any organization for that matter. As a matter of fact, my friend recounted a story where a fraternity member was asked to take off his shirt and put on another organization's shirt because there were too many XYZs in the shot. The guy balked, so the director told him to leave (and evidently lose whatever he was getting paid). He (the guy) ended up giving in and wearing the other frats shirt. Can you imagine what his line brothers said to him when they saw him on TV?? ha ha

the411 12-19-2000 04:07 PM

So has anyone heard that Kelly Shanygne Williams (Laura Winslow on Family Matters) is a Delta? People were telling me about an episode of Moesha that she was on a while back on which she was a stepshow MC and she said something to the effect of "Let me say wassup to my beautiful sorors" then she did the Delta call and threw up the Pyramid! I never saw it, but a few folks mentioned it to me.

Now, about A Different World...
As many greeks as there are in this world, I can't even fathom why they'd have non-greeks wearing NPHC 'nalia!!! After all, the show was produced by Bill Cosby-- an Omega, and directed by Debbie Allen--an AKA! I refuse to believe they'd let non-greeks wear those letters! I just can't see it!

the411

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DELTABRAT 12-19-2000 05:15 PM

Yes,

I have to agree with Soror 411. I can't believe they, themselves, would condone, actually suggest that non-members wear REAL 'nalia. Further, if I had been that brothah or sistah that was told to wear ANOTHER ORGANIZATION'S 'NALIA http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif I would have HAD to just miss out on the "extra" funds. I could not even imagine wearing another organization's letters. They do have meaning and all...GEESH!!!

Mz. Sports Luva 12-19-2000 06:02 PM

the411:I saw that episode and I was wondering the same thing.

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Originally posted by the411:
So has anyone heard that Kelly Shanygne Williams (Laura Winslow on Family Matters) is a Delta? People were telling me about an episode of Moesha that she was on a while back on which she was a stepshow MC and she said something to the effect of "Let me say wassup to my beautiful sorors" then she did the Delta call and threw up the Pyramid! I never saw it, but a few folks mentioned it to me.


Eclipse 12-19-2000 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the411:

Now, about A Different World...
As many greeks as there are in this world, I can't even fathom why they'd have non-greeks wearing NPHC 'nalia!!! After all, the show was produced by Bill Cosby-- an Omega, and directed by Debbie Allen--an AKA! I refuse to believe they'd let non-greeks wear those letters! I just can't see it!

the411

I know this sounds much like "I have a friend who sister's brother's cousin... said" but I [i] swear ]/i] it's TRUE! (Yeah right the411 says...they always say it's true!!) he he he http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif But seriously, I can't verify the story, but I distinctly remember it. I was in college during DW's heyday so it was discussed a lot. Especially since some of the exterior shots were filmed on my campus. DELTABRAT I agree. I remember us non-greeks saying I can't believe an "X" would wear "Y" para!!

RENEEDST_22 12-19-2000 07:59 PM

I am not sure about her either, but I do know that Rudy from "The Cosby Show", did pledge Delta at Spelman. And from the different shows I have watched in the past usually the person wearing the nalia is greek, Steve Harvery has a Omega Crest on the wall of his show.

DoggyStyle82 12-19-2000 10:04 PM

411: I believe that Kelli is a Delta. There is a Bruh named Rushon McDonald (GE Hampton)who is a producer on Moesha and was an associate producer on Sister/Sister. Remember when the Father (Tim Reid, an Alpha) wanted the daughters to be AKAs and the mother wanted them to be Deltas and they had all this nalia in the house? One episode dealt with a boyfriend pledging. Brian McKnight was the chapter advisor. They were supposed to be pledging Que (the colors were Purple and Gold) but our Nationals said no way because the storyline involved hazing and non-greeks like Brian McKnight (a Greek, but a homemade frat) and Bud, wearing the letters.

DoggyStyle82 12-21-2000 12:40 AM

411, the Gorgeous One, the Nickelodeon show was called "My Brother and Me". The father was/is really a Que, don't know if the mom was really a Delta.

DirectorDST99 12-21-2000 01:31 AM

the411, Keisha Knight Pulliam "Rudy" is my sands and deuce of Spring 99. She crossed at Spelman.

DoggyStyle, is Rushon an Omega?

While I truly believe the people who wear nalia on tv are in those organizations...I don't believe that the people who are in some of these magazines are in the organizations. I say that because in an issue of Black Voices Quarterly, I saw this one guy with an Omega shirt on and a Kappa shirt or jacket on another page.

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the411 12-21-2000 01:51 AM

I was curious about that Purple and Gold frat on Sister/Sister! Clearly it was meant to depict Omega Psi Phi, but I must say that I appreciated the way the story evolved. For media puposes, it shed a positive light on the greek system, if you ask me. Of course, it would have been even better if Brian McKnight were really a bruh! But I digress (cause I know y'all tired of me talkin' 'bout Brian!)...

Anyway, there's a sitcom on Nickelodeon (I forget the name) with a Black family in which the mom and dad are supposed to be a Delta and Que, based on the greek 'nalia and decor in the living room. I wonder if they really are, or if that's just a reflection of someone on the production crew! I just love seeing my Sorors and Frat on TV!

PS: "Rudy Huxtable" was the deuce of her line (Spring '98 I believe), and she really pledged, they tell me!



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Sexy Mocha 12-21-2000 11:25 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by the411:
...and directed by Debbie Allen--an AKA!

the411

Debbie Allen, an AKA? I know her sister is a soror, but I did not know she was.

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the411 12-21-2000 06:06 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Sexy Mocha:
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Debbie Allen, an AKA? I know her sister is a soror, but I did not know she was.
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[This message has been edited by Sexy Mocha (edited December 21, 2000).][/B]
Debbie Allen pledged AKA at Howard, just like Phylicia (her sister) did.


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Finer Woman10-A-91 12-21-2000 09:45 PM

Pardon me, but I pledged at Howard and graduated from there. Your Sorors claimed Debbie. And the Phylicia was claimed by AKA. Considering both are very active in the Howard community, I had a chance to see them fairly often on campus during my time there.

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Originally posted by the411:
Debbie Allen pledged AKA at Howard, just like Phylicia (her sister) did.





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DirectorDST99 12-21-2000 10:34 PM

FinerWoman, whose sorors claim Debbie Allen? Not Delta. We know that she's an AKA as well as her sister.

Maybe I'm reading your post incorrectly.



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MaMaBuddha 12-22-2000 01:05 AM

i've actually had the chance to meet Keisha Knight Pullam at Spelman a few days after she crossed and i might like to say she is something else...


Sexy Mocha 12-22-2000 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Finer Woman10-A-91:
Pardon me, but I pledged at Howard and graduated from there. Your Sorors claimed Debbie. And the Phylicia was claimed by AKA. Considering both are very active in the Howard community, I had a chance to see them fairly often on campus during my time there.




I was under the assumption that Debbie Allen was a Delta also. Since the 411 says she's not, I have to take her word for it. (Who would know if she's a member or not better than an actual member?) However, I have never heard of Debbie being a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha either. Being fairly new to my organization...I really did not know so I have asked several sorors and this was news to them as well.

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the411 12-22-2000 12:03 PM

Mocha, she's obviously not greek at all. That's my conclusion.

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Reds695 12-22-2000 02:12 PM

Debbie & Pyllica are both AKA's. They are not Delta's.

MaMaBuddha 12-22-2000 02:53 PM

can annyone prove that debbie is greek, for once and for all?


the411 12-22-2000 03:39 PM

I spent about 30 minutes net-surfing for evidence this morning, and neither AKA nor DST makes mention of Debbie Allen when listing famous members. True enough, we can't list all of our renowned members, but one would think that we'd list all those phenomenal women who've reached the level and status of the likes of Debbie Allen... right? So, the fact that she's not mentioned by either organization (while her sister is consistently mentioned by AKA) is reason enough for me to conclude that she chose not to join either sorority.

So, I stand corrected.

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the411 12-22-2000 03:44 PM

Here's what an AKA said in their forum...

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Originally posted by lluvmook98:
Hey Y'all!

I am not sure but I was told (I'm not an Alpha Chapter soror but I was made in DC)that she wasin the Ivy Leaf Plegde Club but dropped. I was also told that she was extended membership into Delta Sigma Theta and after they found out that bit of info the issue of her honorary membership was dropped in some way shape or form. This info may not be 100% correct but I heard it from a pretty reliable source. That is why so many people don't know if she is one, the other or both. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif



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DoggyStyle82 12-23-2000 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by DirectorDST99:
DoggyStyle, is Rushon an Omega?
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Yes Director, he is an Omega.

c&c1913 12-23-2000 02:05 AM

I was watching the Golden Girls tonight and during the commercial they advertised their Intimate Portrait show. I think Debbie Allen's story will be told next week, so maybe the answer will be told then. I know when the show was about Star Jones', it mentioned her joining AKA while in college.

DirectorDST99 12-23-2000 02:07 AM

I know for an absolute, 100% fact that Debbie Allen is not a Delta.

I know for a fact that Phylicia Rashad is an AKA because she was an honorary chairperson of an event for the AKA's in Houston a while back.

Not sure if Debbie is an AKA or not affliated with a BGLO, but I KNOW she's not a Delta.

Not knocking my older sorors in Delta, but the younger ones should know the prominent sorors....SHOULD because it's still fresh on our minds.

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lluvmook98 12-27-2000 11:00 PM

I know that the 411 quoted me, (thanks for trusting me girl, http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif),but if you ladies don't mind....

After speaking with a soror of mine from Alpha Chapter and other DC area AKA's it has been confirmed that Debbie Allen is neither an AKA or a Delta. She pledged AKA after her sister then dropped. So she is neither AKA nor Delta) Too bad, so sad! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

The Original Ape 12-28-2000 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kiml122:
On an episode of the show Moesha, she was going with this guy who was a Kappa. In the episodehe stepped and had the letters on and everything. Here is my question, when you see people on TV and they have on a certain fraternity or sororities letters (like a sweater) are they really a member. I hope this question can be answered and is not offensive, that is not my intent.

Although it makes perfect sense to not allow someone to wear your nelia, seeing your letters on a popular t.v. show is like FREE PUBLICITY for your frat/sorority. I'm sure the Network legal team approached the organizations in question for permission if they planned to use a non-member sporting the nelia in a shot. With that in mind, I'm sure not all actors/actresses are members of these organizations. I do, however, concede the possibility of these actors/actresses being members.


Micah13 12-28-2000 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the411:
So has anyone heard that Kelly Shanygne Williams (Laura Winslow on Family Matters) is a Delta? People were telling me about an episode of Moesha that she was on a while back on which she was a stepshow MC and she said something to the effect of "Let me say wassup to my beautiful sorors" then she did the Delta call and threw up the Pyramid! I never saw it, but a few folks mentioned it to me.

Now, about A Different World...
As many greeks as there are in this world, I can't even fathom why they'd have non-greeks wearing NPHC 'nalia!!! After all, the show was produced by Bill Cosby-- an Omega, and directed by Debbie Allen--an AKA! I refuse to believe they'd let non-greeks wear those letters! I just can't see it!

the411


No offense, but Debbie Allen is not an AKA. Her sister Phylisia Rashad is an AKA.


showstopper_1908 05-21-2001 03:13 AM

Hello everyone. I was reading the thread and I just found out that Debbie Allen is NOT a member of DST. This is news to me because I have seen her on a list of famous members so to hear that she is NOT is a shock. If I ever come across this list again I will definitely post it. As for the fake Greeks in TV shows, well it's just that, fake. I know that us as Greeks see it differently, but as an actress I have a different view on it. When I see women on A Different World wearing my letters, I do get excited but I doubt that they are my sorors. To find members of Alpha Kappa Alpha who are auditioning to be an extra on the show might not be as easy to come by as one thinks. These are just normal people who wait on line all day long with their headshots and resumes looking for work. They get the job and producers throw them a shirt and say put this on. It's as simple as that. The set of a television show is NOT a real University so as for them being real members, that is highly unlikely.

PrettyLadyT 05-21-2001 11:21 AM

Is Kym Whitley a member of DST? I remember when A.J. Johnson, who is a member of DST, was on Oh Drama and they were dancing outside AJ was throwing up the sign and Kym started doing it as well.

CrimsonTide4 05-21-2001 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by PrettyLadyT:
Is Kym Whitley a member of DST? I remember when A.J. Johnson, who is a member of DST, was on Oh Drama and they were dancing outside AJ was throwing up the sign and Kym started doing it as well.
Yes Kym is a Delta. She became one during undergraduate years at either Fisk or Shaw University. I can't remember which.



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MeezDiscreet 05-21-2001 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by PrettyLadyT:
Is Kym Whitley a member of DST? I remember when A.J. Johnson, who is a member of DST, was on Oh Drama and they were dancing outside AJ was throwing up the sign and Kym started doing it as well.

as one who is looking to become a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., i just LOVE learning more as well as who. which brings me to my question: who is a.j. johnson? i know the comedian by that name played ezel in the movie friday.

CrimsonTide4 05-21-2001 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by MeezDiscreet:

as one who is looking to become a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., i just LOVE learning more as well as who. which brings me to my question: who is a.j. johnson? i know the comedian by that name played ezel in the movie friday.

AJ Johnson was Morris Chestnut's wife in THE INKWELL. She played SHaraine in HOUSE PARTY. She was the one who lived in the projects and was Tisha Campbell's girl in the movie.

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MeezDiscreet 05-21-2001 07:07 PM

oooohhhh!!! thanks! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Eclipse 05-21-2001 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
AJ Johnson was Morris Chestnut's wife in THE INKWELL. She played SHaraine in HOUSE PARTY. She was the one who lived in the projects and was Tisha Campbell's girl in the movie.

She also is Tyrese's mother in his new movie (I don't think it is out yet) Baby Boy, which is soooooo scary to me, considering we were at Spelman at the same time! (Well, she is a bit older than me, though!) http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

CrimsonTide4 05-22-2001 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
Yes Kym is a Delta. She became one during undergraduate years at either Fisk or Shaw University. I can't remember which.

I went to BET.com's webpage and found her BIO which I posted here.

Kym Whitley is an Actor, Director and Stand-up comic. She is set to co-host BET's new fall morning show, Oh Drama! Oh Drama! will feature a morning dose of news, information, and celebrity guests answering e-mails and taking your calls, OH Drama gets your morning started off right. Broadcast live from BET's Los Angeles studios, this captivating program gives viewers a morning jolt of entertainment, excitement and laughter.

She most recently starred as Darice Mayberry, the occasionally high strung manager of a family owned Los Angeles storefront law firm, in the Sitcom SPARKS. This comedy series about family dynamics, sibling rivalry and office romance was a 20th Century Fox Production for UPN.

A native of Cleveland, Ohio, Whitley got her start in show business while visiting Los Angeles and the set of the music/dance show Soul Train with her friend, singer Gerald Levert. Her striking resemblance to now sister Sister star, Jackee, got her noticed and prompted an invitation two days later to portray "Sandra's" look alike cousin on the sit-com "227's" last season. Later, Whitley worked again with Jackee, this time playing her twin sister in the NBC movie of the week Double your Pleasure. Whitley has guest starred on numerous series, including Married with Children, The Parenthood and Martin.

She was a series regular on Nickelodeon's My Brother and Me and All That. Her feature film credits include Street Wars and 25 Lighthouse. The latter of which premiered at the Cannes Film Festival in May 1996.

In addition to her work in front of the camera, Whitley has extensive credits, behind the scenes. While honing her craft with classes and workshops, she served as an assistant to Arsenio hall and Stevie Wonder. She has also worked as a production coordinator on several music videos and on Blair Underwood's directorial debut, the feature film, The Second Coming. After touring in the role of Sister Rosemary in the hit Shelly Garrett play Beauty Shop, Whitley was given the opportunity to again step behind-the-scenes as director of another Garrett production called Living Room. This play went on to gross over 33 million dollars.

Whitley, who has also lived in the Sudan, Africa, is a graduate of Fisk University in Nashville Tennessee.Whitley is currently in the final stages of her first book-project, Never Give Up Unless You Really Can't Act, which is a how to make it in showbiz book.


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mccoyred 05-22-2001 01:48 PM

So THAT's why Jackee's character was promoting DELTA when it came time for one of the twins to consider sorority life! I thought it was just because she had good taste http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

Speaking of that episode, is Tim Reid an Alpha?

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
Her striking resemblance to now sister Sister star, Jackee, got her noticed and prompted an invitation two days later to portray "Sandra's" look alike cousin on the sit-com "227's" last season.


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Queencece 05-22-2001 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by mccoyred:
So THAT's why Jackee's character was promoting DELTA when it came time for one of the twins to consider sorority life! I thought it was just because she had good taste http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

Speaking of that episode, is Tim Reid an Alpha?





I think that he is an Alpha because i saw him wearin the pari (he was decked out too) in the episode that Tameras boyfriend (bud on the cosbys) wanted to plegde that fraternity on sister sister.

But correct me if im wrong.

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