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TylerG18 11-18-2004 12:25 AM

Forums for Schools
 
I know somebody has probably brought this up before, but I tried searching and e-mailing and got nothing, so I'm going to ask on a post anyways. There are forums for individual GLOs, why not for schools as well? My whole reason for getting on this forum was to get more involved with my greek community (after searching for something online, found this site and found there were UCF people). I want to talk to other people about issues that concern our campus, but I don't want to take up other peoples time or energy with things they don't want to read about.

I'm not saying every school in the U.S. should get one, but if 10 or 20 people from one campus e-mail an administrator to get one, then maybe it can be created? I think this would be a great way to foster greek unity on campuses, something I'm sure is one of the goals of this site.

Unregistered- 11-18-2004 12:31 AM

Do you know how many campuses are represented here on GC?

There simply isn't enough room. GC has had problems with the server crashing just by what we already have.

If people are interested in school forums, I think other avenues would be more appropriate -- LJ, MSN Groups, for example.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 12:37 AM

I understand that, but the reason why this forum would be better is because it is all inclusive. You don't have to know somebody to get in. The whole point is get to know people you haven't met before and get their viewpoints on various topics. This is such a large site that it would be easier for people to find etc.

If the server can't handle it, then the server can't handle it I guess.

But I think you might find that it would actually streamline the site and make it easier to search for subjects, instead of getting repeat topics.

33girl 11-18-2004 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by TylerG18
I understand that, but the reason why this forum would be better is because it is all inclusive. You don't have to know somebody to get in. The whole point is get to know people you haven't met before and get their viewpoints on various topics. This is such a large site that it would be easier for people to find etc.
If you make a yahoogroup or MSN group open anyone can post on it, you don't have to "know" anyone.

Does UCF have a daily jolt site? Post there.

Do they have an alumni message board? Post there.

If you want to talk to other people on here from UCF, you can schedule a chat and chat with them in real time.

And you can have a thread or two on here devoted to UCF - we've had plenty about Pitt, Clemson, various schools. No one will mind.

GC is huge enough. The last thing we need is forums for individual schools.

BellaBerlee 11-18-2004 01:11 AM

on facebook.com theres a UCF greeks forum, theres (i think) 50 of us... all u need to sign up is your pegasus email (which u can get if u type in "ucf.edu") .. also theres a livejournal with ucf greeks, www.livejournal.com/community/ucfgreeks OR www.livejournal.com/community/ucf_greeks


Those are the ones I know about... so good luck!

TylerG18 11-18-2004 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
If you make a yahoogroup or MSN group open anyone can post on it, you don't have to "know" anyone.

Again, this site is easier to find than an msn or yahoogroup.
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Does UCF have a daily jolt site? Post there.


Nope
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Do they have an alumni message board? Post there.


Nope. I'm not an alumnus anyways.
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If you want to talk to other people on here from UCF, you can schedule a chat and chat with them in real time.


Scheduling problems. Lack of diversity. You have to know people. If it were that easy, that's all this site would be.
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And you can have a thread or two on here devoted to UCF - we've had plenty about Pitt, Clemson, various schools. No one will mind.


It's very hard to find things here, because of the amount of people on this site. If you don't keep up with it every day, you'll probably miss a thread. You shouldn't have to search for forums every time you come on the site. Again, it's a matter of streamlining.
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GC is huge enough. The last thing we need is forums for individual schools.
You'll never know unless you try. If it doesn't work out, simply close up shop and move on. I just think it would be beneficial to the greek community to at least try it instead of saying it's too much work.

33girl 11-18-2004 01:23 AM

If you click on Greek Chat Forums and then look at the right hand side, there is a button called "View New Posts." You can click on this every time you sign back in and you won't miss any threads.

The problem is going to be that once people see there are individual school forums, EVERYONE is going to want one, even if they are the only person from their school posting here. We've already experienced that with people who are the only person from their local wanting a separate forum for their local. John doesn't have the time to be setting up this many forums - he is the only one who can do this, regular mods cannot. That's a lot to ask of one person who already has his hands full with this site as it is.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 01:24 AM

Well something's better than nothing I guess. Thanks Kim! I still think that it's a good idea though and I don't think it would be as much work as ya'll think. All I ask is that the idea gets some consideration. Not just for me, but for all greeks.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
The problem is going to be that once people see there are individual school forums, EVERYONE is going to want one, even if they are the only person from their school posting here. We've already experienced that with people who are the only person from their local wanting a separate forum for their local. John doesn't have the time to be setting up this many forums - he is the only one who can do this, regular mods cannot. That's a lot to ask of one person who already has his hands full with this site as it is.
Like I said, set a minimum amount of people who would have to request the forum.

An easy way to do this would be to have a request section where people could post their schools. As soon as the minimum amount reply to that thread, they get their forum.

Unregistered- 11-18-2004 02:04 AM

How many times must I bang my head against the wall because of UCF? No offense ZTAngel, adpiucf, et. al. It's an inside joke, so don't anyone get their panties in wad. :mad:

As the wise Sheila once said:

"HOP TO IT JOHN!" :rolleyes:

It's GreekChat. Not UF GreekChat. Not Ole Miss GreekChat. Not UCF GreekChat. Just because you can get a minimum of 10-20 to request their own forum, who's to say that that won't stop others from requesting one also? As 33girl said, many members of locals have requested a forum for their own GLO in the past, but it's just not feasible.

You might not think that not a lot of work is put into this site, and you seem to think that adding forums is a piece of cake. It's not.

If you're so determined to get your own campus forum, I'd suggest PM-ing John Hammell, the site administrator, directly because there's nothing that neither 33girl nor myself and the other mods can do about your situation. While us mods can't configure the site to what you want, we can advise John on what would be beneficial to the site.

And I'm telling you now, I doubt your idea would fly. Unless you bribed John with $$$ and maybe, just maybe, he'd consider it.

Until then, just be happy with what you already have. Mmmmkay? Mmmmkay.

tunatartare 11-18-2004 02:09 AM

What's wrong with just having the forum on your school's Facebook page? It's not like people don't check it like 50 times a day when they have a paper due the next morning...

alphagamgirlie 11-18-2004 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Does UCF have a daily jolt site? Post there.

Sorry, but what is a jolt? LOL...
Anyways, Tyler, when I think of daily jolt (whatever that means) I'm thinking of http://www.livejournal.com/~ucf where over 1000 UCF students make random posts (the biggest college community on LJ I think)...but most of the people on there are anti-greek in a way, especially one of the mods "StormSigma" who is very anti-greek...the rest of the mods are alright though.
And like what Kim said, those other LJ communities for UCF Greeks are alright too which are both run by a PiPhi
Since individual school forums aren't ok...what about individual state forums? but 50 still seems a lot so maybe Alaska & Hawaii schools should hook up LOL. Maybe just split it up into the Northwest, Southeast, Midwest, etc or something like that.
If not, then it's not the end of the world lol

Unregistered- 11-18-2004 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by alphagamgirlie
Sorry, but what is a jolt? LOL...
Anyways, Tyler, when I think of daily jolt (whatever that means) I'm thinking of http://www.livejournal.com/~ucf where over 1000 UCF students make random posts (the biggest college community on LJ I think)...but most of the people on there are anti-greek in a way, especially one of the mods "StormSigma" who is very anti-greek...the rest of the mods are alright though.
And like what Kim said, those other LJ communities for UCF Greeks are alright too which are both run by a PiPhi
Since individual school forums aren't ok...what about individual state forums? but 50 still seems a lot so maybe Alaska & Hawaii schools should hook up LOL. Maybe just split it up into the Northwest, Southeast, Midwest, etc or something like that.
If not, then it's not the end of the world lol

This is GreekChat. Not CampusChat. Nor is it StateChat.

That is all. Please drive through.

tunatartare 11-18-2004 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
This is GreekChat. Not CampusChat. Nor is it StateChat.

That is all. Please drive through.

Haha, I was so waiting for that.

ADqtPiMel 11-18-2004 03:09 AM

OTW, I think I love you.

Unregistered- 11-18-2004 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
OTW, I think I love you.
So what are you so afraid of?

Sorry darling, it's my night off and I'm bored.

adpiucf 11-18-2004 03:12 AM

Tyler, getting involved and exploring issues at your campus starts with face-to-face communication, and not subscribing to an online chat.

Go to Greek Affairs and look at the schedule of upcoming events. Attend an IFC meeting, GAMMA, president's round table, Greek Week planning, or any number of Greek programming going on. Schedule a meeting with the director of Greek Affairs and ask for his help in guiding you to making a contribution of your time, thoughts and talents into UCF Greek Life. Explore leadership opportunities in your fraternity. Whatever you do, you'll be great at it. But you can make the most difference in your Greek community by being an active member, starting dialogues with your friends and fraternity brothers and doing it LIVE... there you'll find real solutions and make real differences. We can't hide out on the internet forever... all we do here is talk, swap an idea or two. Get out on your campus and make a real difference. Good luck.

ADqtPiMel 11-18-2004 03:20 AM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
So what are you so afraid of?

Sorry darling, it's my night off and I'm bored.

Something that I'm not sure of. ;)

kddani 11-18-2004 08:26 AM

Greekchat is FREE.
There are not fees.
There are only the occasional teeny tiny ad in the corner.
You are new.
You're just walking in here and trying to change everything. Not going to be well received.
John, the owner, does not have the time to do the things you're requesting. Not only that, but even if he did, it doesn't seem like anyone else thinks it's a good idea either.
If you can't find things, I suggest you brush up on how to do search- the proper use of ands and ors and the like.

And better yet, if you don't like GC- no one's forcing you to be here. No one's keeping you from starting your own site. If there's something that you feel there's a need for, then do something about it yourself- start your own online forum. Don't have the time? Guess what, our admin doesn't have the time either to cater to people wanting their own individual forums. Or the server space. You gonna purchase and donate a new server?

You have a couple threads about UCF already. Like others have said, a lot of schools have a thread or two or three. Which is perfectly fine.

You're coming across as rude and pushy and that's why you're not being well received. We don't walk into your house and tell you how to do things.

ZTAngel 11-18-2004 09:33 AM

I even went to UCF and still don't see the need for a seperate forum for us on GC.

As Sandy said, this is Greekchat. This is a site where Greeks from every school across the US come to talk. If UCF gets their own forum, then every school should and there's just too many to do something like that.

TrueBlueKappa 11-18-2004 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by ZTAngel
I even went to UCF and still don't see the need for a seperate forum for us on GC.

As Sandy said, this is Greekchat. This is a site where Greeks from every school across the US come to talk. If UCF gets their own forum, then every school should and there's just too many to do something like that.

Just echoing ZTAngel. I'm a UCF Greek, and I really don't see the need for this. There are plenty of other places to chat, such as the LJ communities, facebook, etc.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
Tyler, getting involved and exploring issues at your campus starts with face-to-face communication, and not subscribing to an online chat.

Go to Greek Affairs and look at the schedule of upcoming events. Attend an IFC meeting, GAMMA, president's round table, Greek Week planning, or any number of Greek programming going on. Schedule a meeting with the director of Greek Affairs and ask for his help in guiding you to making a contribution of your time, thoughts and talents into UCF Greek Life. Explore leadership opportunities in your fraternity. Whatever you do, you'll be great at it. But you can make the most difference in your Greek community by being an active member, starting dialogues with your friends and fraternity brothers and doing it LIVE... there you'll find real solutions and make real differences. We can't hide out on the internet forever... all we do here is talk, swap an idea or two. Get out on your campus and make a real difference. Good luck.

LOL...check my bio before you post something like that. I've been greek week chair, vice president for 2 terms, president and am now rush chair. In addition I've been the IFC rep for my fraternity for 3 years.

Listen, I don't know why everyone is getting so upset. It was an idea. Like I said, if the server can't handle it, then it can't. I just don't like it when someone immediately shoots down an idea instead of thinking of constructive alternatives. Something like this would provide a great way for people at their school to communicate. I'll repeat, this is not just for me. I know plenty of people within my own greek community, but there is always room for more viewpoints and more discussion to make communities better. What people in IFC and the presidents of chapters think is often times far different than what the actual members think.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 12:03 PM

I also just wanted to say that I'm not trying to be rude or pushy. If this thing doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world. I just thought it was a good IDEA given the magnitude of the site and the ease of which you can find it. (Hence opening it up to greater diversity and greater flows of idea. Something you just aren't going to get on a Livejournal or other messaging site.)

I didn't come in here saying I DEMAND A FORUM FOR UCF. I gave an idea. People gave reasons against it. I gave reasons for it. I thought that's what constructive debate was all about. If it came off rude then I apologize.

I really enjoy this site and am glad that someone made it. Reall I do, and I appreciate it. But I also think that there's always room for improvement in anything that people do. If you don't like the idea, those are your opinions and you are entitled to them. But don't say it's impossible. Nothing is impossible.

(Oh and it's not Tau Kappa Epsilon chat either, but we do have a forum for that, don't we.)

Rudey 11-18-2004 12:04 PM

Why are you guys jumping down his throat?

This isn't even a big deal.

Oh and by the way, if anyone gets the memo going around, some of you are moderators and not administrators so you don't really get to decide what the site will look like or what direction it will take.

Tyler, if you want to, you have every right to submit a PM to John along with anyone else who wants to. If John wants to, he'll create another forum or whatnot.

There. That was simple.

-Rudey
--GREEEEAT

Little E 11-18-2004 12:16 PM

If you aren't a fan of facebook, msn, yahoo etc. Why don't you get IFC and Panhell to look into putting something on your Greek Council sites? Something linked from chapter websites, council webistes, the school website and then it would be hosted on your school's server. When that is up and running you could promote it on here. There you go- a constructive alternate idea.

TylerG18 11-18-2004 12:21 PM

I have talked to our IFC chair in charge of the website and he pretty much blew off the idea. The website isn't exactly a priority. I don't think it's been updated since 2003.

http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ifc/main.htm

alphagamgirlie 11-18-2004 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by TylerG18
If this thing doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world.
Something random: PLAGIARISM!!! I said that earlier & you totally stole that from my brain without crediting!!!! UGH!!! :p LOL
(Sorry for the randomness, but everyone is so serious all of the sudden, chill out ya'll)

TylerG18 11-18-2004 01:13 PM

What is Hammell's pm anyways?

mu_agd 11-18-2004 01:21 PM

John

TylerG18 11-18-2004 02:15 PM

One more thing. According to Greekpages.com, there are actually more fraternities and sororities in the U.S. than there are universities that host them.

It would be logical to assume then that there would also be less forums for those schools.

kddani 11-18-2004 02:27 PM

that may be so, but there aren't forums on here for every single GLO.

You seriously need to chill. You're obsessing over this and seem desperate to get the last word in. It's really rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.

Again, you don't walk into someone's house and start telling them what to do.

And if you perceive a need for something, get off your behind and do something about it- start your own.

And finally, not a single person has said hey, that's a good idea. Why should the entire website change because of one person?

You were given the reasons why it's not possible. Yet you still keep harping on.

Email the site admin if you want. We're telling you, it's not gonna happen.

Though if you made a hefty donation for a new, larger server to host all of that, perhaps John would reconsider :p

But seriously, chill the hell out.

Glitter650 11-18-2004 03:55 PM

Even though there is no forum for my school... I think I know every alum or undergrad from my school who posts here. Granted my school isn't a big greek school or anything... so there isn't alot of us... but we found each other. Look for people from your school and PM or E mail them...you don't need a forum to do that.

Unregistered- 11-18-2004 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by alphagamgirlie
Something random: PLAGIARISM!!! I said that earlier & you totally stole that from my brain without crediting!!!! UGH!!! :p LOL
(Sorry for the randomness, but everyone is so serious all of the sudden, chill out ya'll)

Oh, the friggin' irony. :rolleyes:

http://www.omgcat.com/omgcat.jpg

kddani 11-18-2004 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
Oh, the friggin' irony. :rolleyes:

http://www.omgcat.com/omgcat.jpg

I love that picture. I made it the background on my laptop, but then decided it might terrify the people sitting behind me in class.
It really should say OMGWTFBBQ though. But then again, BBQ and cat together might not be the best reference

amycat412 11-18-2004 05:08 PM

thread has run its course. Move on.

That cat is HI-LARIOUS, OTW!


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