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Speaking of inappropriate paraphernalia...
Soror ASU Diva2001 brought it to our attention that a greek shop she visited was selling t-shirts FOR ADULTS that said "Future Delta" http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif !!!!! I can't think of the words (appropriate for a public forum and my lady-like manner) that could even come CLOSE to expressing my disapproval of that. But check THIS out:
In a 'nalia shop near Ohio State's campus, I noticed that the store worker was putting ribbon with greek letters around the necks of those stupid little multi-colored Grateful Dead bears (Y'all know which ones I'm talking about?). Anyway, I initially thought nothing of it, assuming that she was only using ribbon with the letters of sororities in the National Panhellenic CONFERENCE (not Council)-- i.e. the white sororities. Imagine my sheer and utter DISGUST, REPUGNANCE, and ANGER http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif when I saw the letters of my beloved Delta Sigma Theta wrapped around the necks of about 4 different-colored bears (and NONE of 'em were red)!!! They'd also had AKA ribbon on some bears, too. So, I politely told the lady that to have DST and AKA ribbon on those bears was a blatant violation of protocol, seeing as though NOTHING about the orgs is IN ANY WAY associated with ANY music group, and ESPECIALLY not a heavy metal rock band!!! She pretty much told me where I could go, as she continued tying ribbon around the bears' necks. As she did so, I started "visualizing the attack" (The Waterboy), and picturing myself tying some ribbon around HER neck! But, I came to my senses and said sternly, "I guess you didn't understand me-- Take the DST and AKA ribbon OFF the bears." She said: "We'll see how they sell, and if they don't, then I'll take 'em off." By now, I am trying to remember by favorite moves from Tae Bo class, but again-- I came to my senses before I lost my head. I just went to the store owner and explained some things to him. I told him that I don't think he'd like it if I got a large group of black greeks together to boycott his store (he's the only one who sells NPHC 'nalia here, so he makes a s***load of money off of us). The next time I went to the store, I didn't see our ribbon on the bears. Now, that's been a while ago-- I think I may need to pop back in just to see... What do y'all think? And I'm Out! ------------------ Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Pi Kappa, SP97 #3 of QUINTESSENCE [This message has been edited by the411 (edited May 10, 2001).] |
I take it you're talking about Spirit Concepts? Boycott. I have a soror who has a little shop in the Livingston Market that sells 'nalia. Ain't nobody gotsta buy NOTHIN' from him!!! I mean, teddy bears, ok. But the Grateful Dead bears????? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif I don't really see ANYONE buying those, unless it's specific to their line (read: pledge class) or something. Thanks for trying my sista in Greekdom!
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Sorors, I know we all know what is inappropriate (ie panties, lingerie, doormats) however, we must also be careful of tacky 'nalia.
I was in a Greek shop checking out their gear. Most of their stuff was pretty nice but I did see a couple of cheap and shoddy pieces. The one that sticks out in my mind is a puzzle with a plain white background and had our symbols, letters and other sayings WRITTEN with a red felt tip pen. It looked like something somebeody doodled on in their spare time. Needless to say it cost only a couple of bucks but my first thought was TACKY AND CHEAP. Sorors and other Greeks, we must demand quality merchandise. DO NOT buy cheap and tacky 'nalia and *they* won't continue to try to sell it. ------------------ MCCOYRED Mu Psi '86 BaltCo Alumnae Dynamic...Salient...Temperate...Since 1913 |
The vendor that attended my chapter's "Bridging The Gap" program was selling adult baseball caps and t-shirts that said "Future Delta". I told some of my line sisters that only a child should have on something like that,but that 'nalia was not in children's sizes. None of the sorors bought any of the stuff, but it didn't seem as though they were suprised about it being out there either. According to some of the older sorors, the vendor has been in the business for a loooooong time. Therefore, he should know better. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif
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i might be a little anal, but, i don't like future delta shirts for anyone. i have seen too many sorors' children oo-ooping and throwing up the pyramid and that's not cool. it also gives girls the impression that delta is promised to them and that's where the trouble begins later.
but on another note, i really get mad when you tell vendors that stuff is wrong and they get mad at you. then some soror will go in there and buy it. i think we really need clearer guidelines on 'nalia. because i have seen some things that weren't right, but it's not the manual either. |
to the411:
Bob (at Spirit Concepts) already is about to make me mad. It is awful that he can charge some of the proces for 'nalia, since he is the only 'nalia store in Columbus. (Please inform me if there is another..so I can shop there). Some of the vendors just don't understand the difference b/t BLGO's and WGLO's. Also, 411 and CT4, are you coming to DELTArobics? It's at 7:00 in the union. Snoopy 11-E-01 |
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Thank you dstbrat!
I HATE that "Future Delta" stuff, too. True enough, we'd all like to see our daughter go the right way (hee hee), BUT-- we shouldn't put it in their minds that, just because their mommy or aunt or big sister is a Delta, they are guaranteed membership. This is one of the issues with SOME legacies today. Some of 'em come to the table with mediocre grades, little-to-no leadership and community service, and limited knowledge about the org as a whole. Then, their mom or whomever gets upset if they don't make it, so they call and raise heck. If we want our daughters or sisters (or sons and brothers, if you're in a frat) to be down, then we need to prepare them by instilling in them the value of hard work, academic achievement, leadership involvement, and steady public service. AND, we should also give them the freedom to make their own decision about sorority or fraternity life. What if she doesn't want to be a Delta? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif What if she doesn't want to be in a sorority AT ALL? I think it's a bad move to insist that our children do exactly as we did/do when it comes to decisions they'll make as adults. Sure, it's fun to play around and joke about what they'd better do or not do, but we need to make sure they know that "dem jess jokes" --ultimately we should let them know that we respect their decision. To buy a child "Future Delta" gear is to make them feel as though they'd be doing something wrong if they DON'T become a Delta. I have a classmate who's dad, grandad, AND older brother were all Kappas. When something happened to keep him from being a Kappa, he killed himself. In his suicide letter, he stated that he'd rather be dead than to see the disappointment on their faces when they found out he wasn't gonna be in the frat. It just doesn't get any sadder than that. When I was in high school, I was SO mad http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/mad.gif at my mom for not letting me be a DeltTeen! She said she didn't want me to get involved in it and later change my mind in college (and pursue an org other than DST--Who me?), only to have that stand in my way. I am very appreciate of her for that. Anyway, let me get back to work. And I'm Out! the411 ------------------ Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Pi Kappa, SP97 #3 of QUINTESSENCE |
Yep, Bob is a trip! I HATE Spirit Concepts with a passion, which is why I only have a handful of stuff (even though I'm over 4). The best thing is to go to conventions for GOOD, legitimate gear. Spirit Concepts over-charges like crazy-- and he can do that 'cause he knows he has the monopoly. I wish I could afford to open up a black greek 'nalia shop right on High Street. I'd make a grip, and Bob would have to close down that little CORNER of NPHC stuff he has WAAAYYY in the back of the store (Why we gotta be in the back?).
PS: snoopy, I won't be there tonight, although Lawd knows I need to workout! I want to go to the Kabaret, but I don't have a date. Okay--I know I sound like a 15-yr-old, but I don't like going to stuff like that solo. None of my female friends want to go, and all of my male friends are taking their girlfriends. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/frown.gif And I'm Out! ------------------ Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Pi Kappa, SP97 #3 of QUINTESSENCE |
I am not a member, but any grown person who is dumb enough to wear a "Future Delta" shirt should wear it so they can be tagged as crazy.
I have seen kids in the shirts at Delta functions that I have attended and I was amazed that it was accepted. I too wanted to be a part of DelTeens when I was in high school, but my mother wanted me to make the decision once I got to college because she wanted me to know that I had choices. After going to school, I realized that my first thought was right. ------------------ Gold99gyrl "This is the day that the Lord has made, let us all rejoice a be glad in it!" |
i want ya'll to look at a webstite that a friend of mine told me about. the creator is off her rockers thinking someone would actually purchase these things.
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MeezDiscreet! I am ROLLING!!! My students think I have lost my mind 'cause I'm laughing like a crazy person!
My personal favorites (NOT!) are: -The Delta purse http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif -The Phi Beta Sigma dustpan http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif And (hee, hee) I'm (hee, hee, hee) Out! ------------------ Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Pi Kappa, SP97 #3 of QUINTESSENCE |
The lamps are goofy and the handpainted stuff like the notecards look cheap. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif
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those figureens (sp?) that you can get at the dollar store that she has PAINTED!!! like those church ladies. CHEAP! CHEAP! CHEAP!
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That was a HOLY MESS!!! She should be ashamed to put those prices or that stuff.
The funniest was the purse. Who would carry that purse before she painted the greek letters on it. A MESS!!! ------------------ Gold99gyrl "This is the day that the Lord has made, let us all rejoice a be glad in it!" |
Sorors and sisterfriends...I am graduating this May and I am in desperate need for a graduation stole, I am looking for a red one with the white greek letters, I can't find one anywhere to save my life...does anyone know of any websites that I could access on the net that might have them!
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CT4, 411, etc.
Regarding Spirit Concepts: As I am celebrating my 10th year as a greek, one of the first places I went to in Columbus was Spirit Concepts. As much as you may despise Bob, I gotta hand it to him: he does know how to secure GOOD 'nalia for the BGLOs. I will say this tho', the BGLOs nalia wasn't always in the back of the store. I remember when it used to be in the middle of the store, near the POS counter (point of sale). Back then ('93, '94), they had the lacquered paddles and those PHAT 2 feet long founders paddles (they discontinued those because according to them, the distributors was constantly late on filling orders--well, I have some business cards from the original distributor if you are interested, and they should be at AAHF next weekend--they were there last year). As far as NPHC orgs stuff being in the back of the store, that IMHO is a weak argument, given that the nalia takes up about 1/4 of the store's space, and it may be a good marketing move, seeing that the flair of the 'nalia will draw customers toward the back of the store and to look at other items. I bought my fraternity badge at SC, it cost an arm and a leg too. At least they GOT stuff for your orgs, and Gamma Sig. NO gear for APO, except an APO watch they have been trying to sell since '94 and is still in stock to this day, but the watch stopped running. BTW, there used to be another GLO store called Ozz n Endz, but they closed down in 1996?, possibly b/c they couldn't compete with Spirit Concepts. ALSO, there was a Black bookstore located in the Newport building that sold some Black Greek nalia, as with Just Sweats, but they closed down in 1994 or '95 because the owners were laundering drug money. But you are right. SC got the monopoly on Greek 'nalia. There is a Black bookstore I frequent called Black Art Plus, that got some TIGHT BGLO artwork. They used to sell GLO jackets--matter of fact, when I saw the AKA and Delta jackets in the store window (November/December '91) was what drew me in as a browser, long time customer. CT4, 411, if the KAP/DST cabaret is not a private party, please give me some info on it: I would love to attend. 411, I will be sending you an email regarding the cabaret. I "missed" the Kappa sip last weekend; I was entertaining company from out of town. Well, theres my $25 RM |
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Now, regarding your opinion about what he has in there for the NPHC orgs, he doesn't hold a match to any black greek 'nalia shop I've seen. Personally, I could careless about pencils or post-it notes with cartoon elephants drawn on them--I'm trying to get a UNIQUE crossing jacket made for my spec or something like that. He doesn't have much at all in terms of appliques, so everyone's stuff ends up looking alike. And, although he's already charging both arms and both legs for the li'l bit he does have, he has the nerve to charge you EVEN MORE when you bring in stuff for stitching (jackets, shirts, hats, etc.) that were not purchased in his store! AND, it takes him forever and a day to get it back to you, 'cause he sends it somewhere else to get sewn. Bob is an adept business man, and he knows it. If someone were to compete with him, they'd have to offer more, with a faster turn-around, AND lower prices. The problem with Oddz n Endz (from what I understand) was that they sold the same things Spirit Concepts did, but at slightly higher prices. So, they went under. Until the411 can compete with him, she will forever complain and try her damnest not to give him her money. "Belie' Dat!" And I'm Out! the411 ------------------ Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc. Pi Kappa, SP97 #3 of QUINTESSENCE |
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P1: I am inclined to agree with you now that I think about it; but then again, I have not seen a greek shop with GOOD BGLO 'nalia like SC, but then again, I don't do much roadtrippin. Now I have seen Black vendors at street fairs (Comin' Home, AAHF, the former Capital City Classic), that had slammin' 'nalia, but they are not "stores" per se. P2: As far as Bob and his charges, I don't know of other places that would have charged cheaper for the uniqueness of a designed jacket, but then again, I paid $150 to spec two Gamma Sigs and a neo frat brother in t-shirts and paddles, and that was two years ago. PLUS the fact that Bob now has Greekdom 'nalia on lockdown at SC, hey, having been a former econ major, it's all about supply and demand, monopoly vs. competition. Personally, I don't get very elaborate designs on my 'nalia; it has all been neo-esque in nature, so my charges has been reasonable, as far as a monopolistic company goes. P3: Belie' it or not, I feel 'ya on that. But keep in mind that you may have to wait until event like AAHF and football classics (Circle City, Riverfront, etc.) before you can secure good 'nalia, and even that you can't get customized, or ya may havta do some roadtrippin'. Don't let Bob get to 'ya, tho'. RM |
Hey Sorors and Sisterfriends ( I found a way to check my e-mail),
I am rolling at that purse. Oh my goodness. And the prices!!!!!!!!!!!That purse is definitely a fashion no-no!! What kind of material is that? LMAO. But anyway, these nalia' shops are off the hinge w/ prices. The best I've seen is the one across from Alabama State. Does anyone know of any nalia shops in Cleveland? Are there any Sorors from Cleveland? I'm heading back home soon. Hey noticed that a few Sorors and I think Rain Man are from the Columbus area. Would any one happen to know about OSU's Block Party? I am considering making my first trip when it takes place. [This message has been edited by ASU Diva2003 (edited May 10, 2001).] |
I have a question about inappropriate 'nalia. This greek store in town will put this stuff (it's hard to describe) at the bottom of capri pants representative of your organization. Is that appropriate or tacky?
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Oh, y'all didn't like the Delta lamp?? I ordered one for each room. NOT!!! As for those church ladies and Kappa band playing piano, my mom has all of those figurines (unpainted of course). She bought them at Cato's and the dollar store.
What's up with that Kappa candy golf bag and the wine container? When I think of a Kappa drink, wine doesn't come to mind http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif. The Sigma dust pan was too much. Anything for a dollar, I guess http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif . |
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I think there are a lot of cute stuff that you can do with handpainted letters, but if you are going to do it at least make sure the letters are straight and centered! My goodness!! |
To Rainman:
Where is Black Art Plus? I'm here at OSU, and I'd LOVE to buy some Delta Art! To all Sorors, Bruhs, Nupes, Zetas, Sigmas, Alphas, AKAs, Iotas,SGRhos, Sisterfriends, Brotherfriends, and Columbusites: The Epsilon Chapter of Delta Sigma Theta and The Zeta Chapter of Kappa Alpha Psi is sponsoring: The Crimson and Creme Cabaret... A Kaptivating Night of DSTinction 5/11/01 SEMIFORMAL ATTIRE This event, is at the Holiday Inn City Center East Columbus, OH Email me for more information! Also, you can also email me for more information about the African American Heritage Festival at The Ohio State University. Much love, Snoopy 11-E-01 |
I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but the placement of a Delta ribbon on a multicolored bear is no more of a protocol violation than placing that same ribbon - or specifically, Delta symbols - on an ELEPHANT....as a matter of fact, placing symbols on an elephant is SPECIFICALLY mentioned as a violation of protocol.
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that is so funny. i know exactly who you are talking about. i remember smelling the popcorn in the exhibit hall http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif the snacks are tight, but i didn't buy a shirt either!
about fortitude, isn't the sorority in litigation to gain the rights to use her? so, he is really suing people? on the other, i had never seen one on a little boy. or a 'my dad is ...' on a little girl. it was just different. i don't have a problem with them. the funny ones are the not so close relations: 'my neighbor, friend, god mother, etc is a/an...' people should really let that go. |
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I think that the tissues/toilet paper is cute. Now, when I first saw it, http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif But then, one of my LS's gave me an idea that to this DAY I think is just adorable! She wants to have a bathroom in her house, that is NOT for use, that is decorated with all AKA stuff: towels, soap, toilet paper, etc. I have always wanted a room to showcase my stuff (after I get enough of it), but I had never thought of that idea. I DO NOT, however, condone people blowing their noses or wiping their behinds with our letters. That is a given, and SERIOUSLY out of control. I had to laugh at this one soror at our regional conference. This chile pulled out of her purse some pink and green polka dot tissues!! After I had finished chuckling and teasing her, I realized, I wanted some too!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/redface.gif |
Delta COMMISSIONED Fortitude, so its rights belong to the sculptor...
I'd rather see a little boy with "My mommy is a Delta" than a grown woman with "Future Delta"... and I'd like to see more of the "My ... is a Delta"... I bought one for my Delta Academy mentee that says "My mentor is a Delta".. she LOVES it...... and it shows that we are touching lives. Quote:
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Yes.. Delta thongs made their debut in 1998 at the convention in New Orleans... and did a reprise in Chicago in 2000... The sad part is that I think they sold out both times.
I think you need to rethink the Delta tissue idea... You found it funny that a Delta would blow her nose on pink and green polka dot tissue... Would it be equally funnny to see an AKA do the same with white tissue with little Deltas on it? Or what if you saw it in one of their bathrooms as toilet tissue? We need to respect EACH OTHER'S symbols... The vendors are the ones with the last laugh. P.S. I hope you realize that EVERY Delta has AKA "blood"... every one of our founders was an AKA. Quote:
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thanks for the clarification on fortitude.
another item i hate is the delta halter tops that look like bibs. the tie around the neck and around the mid-drift. i really thought that it was bib, but, could not figure out why it tied around the middle. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif some of them are white and you can see straight throught them and you know they sold out too. |
Ohhhhh.... okay....
But still... think about a Delta getting ahold of some of those tissues... Quote:
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thankyou 411 for telling those people in Ohio want they shouldn't be doing. 'cant stand tacky nalia. In my chapter, Alpha Chapter, we have so much extra protocol and etiquette, so when I see some of the tacky alia out there I just wonder what was going on in people's minds. Everything pink and green with the letters AKA does not represent my sorority as I'm sure everything red and white with the letters DST doesn't represent yours. Down with tacky 'nalia. Don't even look at it. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif
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i wonder why fortitude isn't used more often. it is more official than some of the other items associated with delta. i really thinks she is a classy representation of the the sorority.
on another note, have any of you seen little boys wearing the 'my mom is a delta' shirts? i did once and it struck me as very odd. |
That's a god point... the DOLLAR SPEAKS. As long as we continue to PURCHASE these inappropriate items, they will be sold... and some of our national convention and regional conference vendors are guilty, as well...
We need to impress upon our sorors to walk away when they see size 2X "Future Delta" shirts, Delta thongs, and Delta tissues... and the man who has shirts on display that say "My Mother is An Delta"... he forgot to change it from "An AKA".... Contact the National Protocol & Traditions Committee and take them to task to monitor the wares of the folks they allow to vend at our meetings and to sue those who vend our items inappropriately or without a license. Quote:
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