Clinton for Pres in 2008?
 

Already talk has begun. Hillary Clinton running for the Democratic ticket with Obama Barack as VP.

Any thoughts?

Many people inside the Beltway have said all along that Hillary is secretly hoping Kerry would lose so she could run.

I guess we'll have to see.

I would quit my job and immediately go to work for this campaign to see this happen!!!!!:D

ooooo, don't get me all giddy....WOW! What a dream....I wanna live in THAT America...


WAKE ME UP IN FOUR YEARS!!!

I think that it will depend on the first couple years of Bush's second term. If things go badly, we might see it happen. If things go well for Bush, I think you are going to have the Democrats looking for a more conservative choice. Hilary is a very polarizing figure, and I'm STILL not sure America is ready for a woman or a black man in these positions of power, let alone both.

(God, I would love it, though.)

a) who the hell is Obama Barack?

b) Theres no doubt in my mind Hillary was hoping that Kerry would lose. As stated in other recent threads, the Democrats do not have their shit together at this point in time. John Kerry is not looking out for the disenfranchised or the oppressed. John Kerry isnt looking out for the Democrats. John Kerry is looking out for John Kerry. John Edwards is looking out for John Edwards. Hillary Clinton is looking out for Hillary Clinton.

Obama Barack is the new senator from Illinois. He has an impressive credential. Graduated from Harvard Law where he was the editor for the Law Review. Mother is white and father a Kenyan economist. He also has an Asian connection, his mother re-married an Indonesian fella and has a half Indonesian half American sister.

Actually it's Barack Obama.

i enjoy obama. first of all, he sounds like a republican, second of all....people were talking with him this morning, asking him about his presidency....and he very honestly and very refreshingly stated how his family is young and how they come first, and all that. i like obama. if he ran against, i dunno....say mccain, it would be hard for me to not vote for him. :D

hillary, though.....HELL NO! she is extremely smart, but extremely wrong, IMHO. don't like her.....never liked her......will never like her. too liberal....and that obviously ain't cuttin it.

but again, obama would be a strong move for dems, eventually.

I don't think that it will happen. I didn't think that Hillary Clinton would win the Senate race either, so what do I know? I think that she represents New York State very well along with Senator Schumer won just won his second term. I think that there might be more palatable Democrats out there to run for President in 2008.

I was just making a half joke about Barack Obama. Merely a case of nitpickery. The serious half was that hes a freshman senator whose credentials are impressive but whose agenda, like ANY new politician, remain largely unclear, yet people are ready to elect President of the United States because of one intense and well-worded speech at the DNC.

I think discussion of Obama for VP or Pres. is a little premature at this point. He may sound like a moderate/conservative when he speaks, however, I'm going to wait until he actually has some kind of voting record to look back on.

oooh, I just LOVE the thought of that! :D

McCain will wipe the floor with that carpetbagger in 2008.

God help us if Hillary is elected president in 08.

No Democrat will be elected to the presidency in 2008. Its just about impossible.

Hello, welcome to 1865.

Where in the world do people still use the term "carpetbagger"?

Or ever again, for that matter.

I'd be all about Hillary for president.

In all seriousness now,

If you were not able to win with a non-moderate Democrat this time, what makes you think that you would be able to do so in 4 years?

W probably caused some of the most visceral reactions i've ever seen from Democrats(see: MoveOn.org) and was still able to beat Kerry. If the Republicans run a more moderate candidate in 08(which i'd like to see) someone who's a "left-winger" would stand no chance.

Hillary will garner the same response from conservatives, who yesterday showed to be in the majority in this country.

Let someone else from the middle of the Democratic party step up.

KS 361

Because it's a term still used today to mean a candidate for any office that uses it as a stepping stone to 'bigger and better things'.

HRC ran for the senate seat in New York because it's ridiculously easy to claim residency to be eligible to run for office (you have to be a resident of the state on Election Day to be eligible). Robert F. Kennedy did the same thing in 1966, then he quit his seat to run for President two years later.

Hillary Rodham's a native Chicagoan, and until she bought the house in Chappaqua, New York, she had very little knowledge of New York's politics and issues. (Betchyerass she got a crash course on 'em when she ran for office.) Such a move was taken in political circles to mean she may have higher political aspirations in the future. Who knows what she has in mind in two or four years? New York doesn't have an 'LBJ law' like Texas does that allows a congressman or senator to run for their old job, while running for another higher office.

I think Obama has a lot of good years ahead of him. While that would be a hell of a ticket that I would support, he's too young and green. I think he has great future potential. Everyone is in love with him, but he hasn't begun to serve on a larger than state level.

I also don't think America is ready to handle a non-white male AND a female on the same ticket. Hell, they haven't been able to come up with and/or handle just one on the ticket.

Texas

While I think Obama will eventually run for Prez or VP....I think 2008 might be too soon. He was just elected to the senate yesterday. But I know that he sometimes appeals to both republicans and democrats. I still can't decide how I feel about Hillary. And though it is sad...some people may have a problem with a woman president. I certainly would not...but I know some people what would. Perhaps she should run for VP first.

I would have a problem voting for a woman, if it were Hilary Clinton.


She's going to have to make serious strides as a policymaker and as a confident leader who shows broad appeal for me to even take her seriously. Obama shows promise . . . for the 2020 election - are we all forgetting how washington works?

Illinois, in reference to Alan Keyes (Obama's last-minute opponent from MARYLAND).

Tell me...what exactly has hillary done besides married bill and published a book?

Not a fan of her at all.

Right now I'm feeling a Tom Daschle run in 2008.

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about Hillary in 2008, but I think the general population would have a little trouble electing her. She's intelligent and a good leader, but I think she's still a little too abrasive to show promise as a presidential candidate. However, a lot can happen in four years.

I do love Obama, though!

In order for the Democratic Party to win in 2008 they need to find a moderate, not liberal candidate to run for office. They need to find a candidate with Joe Lieberman's views, but certainly need someone with a little more charisma.

MMMM Tom Daschle! I'd be all about that.

While I do think Hillary would make an excellent candidate, she would not win a presidential election. And I'd really like the next Democratic candidate to be someone that could win... because I want a Dem as President in 2008.

Barack Obama is like the hottest politician in life.

A) I would move out of the country if Hillary Clinton was even considered for the presidency.

B) There is no way Tom Daschle would be considered for Presidency in 2008...he just lost a very important seat for the democrats. Plus, he is almost too far to the left, and they really need someone from a southern state that is moderate if the democrats want any chance of a win. I wont begin to state my opinions on Tom Daschle =) I will try to remain a classy Theta!!!

C) 4 MORE YEARS!!!!! WHAT AN ELECTION OF 2004!!!!
W STANDS FOR WINNER!!!!

D) What classy lady Laura Bush is. She really makes Theta's proud...Lynne was also a Theta and she is such an amazing woman. Jenna Bush was also a Theta--what a great feeling!!! What amazing greeks we have in the White House!!!

If you're a Democrat & you want to be elected President? You need to be from the South -- check Lyndon Johnson...Jimmy Carter...Bill Clinton.

P.S. Al Gore was from D.C. (not thought of from Tennessee) & Hillary is from IL/NY)

OMG TOTALLY AGREE.

Although, having lost, Daschle has even less of a chance than Hilary does.

But I don't get this jazz about electing a moderate over a liberal. Newsflash: this is what they attempted to do this year. Kerry instead of Dean. (No, Kerry is not THAT liberal. Although, to be honest, Dean wasn't that much moreso than Kerry -- but people thought he was.) Aiming for the moderate will alienate just as many voters as it attracts, ESPECIALLY with the possibility of John McCain being the opponent. I'd vote for McCain over a Lieberman-type character anyday, and y'all know how bleeding-heart I am. I feel like I could trust McCain in office -- I don't get that vibe from Lieberman. Now obviously I am not saying, Go Communist, but we can't make the "a moderate candidate will appeal to the moderates" mistake again. Kerry got cut some slack from the further left factions this year because of the "Anybody but Bush" campaign but I doubt that the Democratic '08 candidate will get that help. People are just too frustrated with the system.

I actually think somebody like McCain in office would be a good strategy for uniting America -- which it will desperately need after Bush's second term -- since McCain is the type of politician who seems to draw admirerers, if not supporters, from all sides of the political spectrum. Obviously I'd rather have a decent Democrat, but I'd much rather have McCain in office than any administration that resembles the current one.

I'm also not sure where people are getting this "Obama is secretly a moderate/conservative" jazz from, but clearly I have a different conception of "moderate" than most of the world. And if this means that a significant number of moderates and conservatives would vote for him if he ran in '08, hey, I can't argue.

For the most part though -- it is WAY too early to be thinking about this. Let's concentrate on '06.

Sorry, but Bill Clinton was very moderate. As mentioned earlier, it is very crucial for a Dem to be from a Southern state, which allows them to take a state from the south away from the Republicans. Your statements about Howard Dean and John Kerry being moderate show exactly where you are in the political spectrum.

I agree. I think we need someone like McCain or Giuliani to run since it will hopefully bring the country together after the next 4 years. I don't think this administration will stop the division in their next term; in fact, I believe they'll make it even worse.

Hilary would not be a good choice unless a lot changes in 4 years (and I do mean a lot). There are too many people who do not like her and that's including people within the Democratic party. The Democrats need someone who can win and I don't think it's Hilary. Obama would be a great choice....in 2012. He hasn't even begun his term as senator so I think 2008 is too soon to run for President.

I know this might be a stretch but does anyone think Al Gore would run again?

I would have loved to Florida Senator and former Governor, Bob Graham, run for presidency (he was a contender for a while) but he's retiring. :(

Re: Clinton for Pres in 2008?
 

God, I hope not. But in a way, I hope she does run with Obama. With her being a woman and Obama being who he is.....they wouldn't win. ;)


And if I had to pick out of McCain or Rudy G., Rudy G it'd be. :D

I also agree with this. I'd vote for John McCain, mostly because I don't get the feeling that our country would go to hell in a handbasket within his four year term. I don't agree with everything he believes in, but you can just tell that he's an intelligent person. I respect that.

I would not, however, support Rudy Guiliani.

Martin Van Buren - New York
Franklin Pierce - New Hampshire
James Buchanan - Pennsylvania
Grover Cleveland - New Jersey
Franklin Roosevelt - New York
Harry Truman - Missouri, although this may be questionalbe
John Kennedy - Massachussetts

Oh, I'm sorry -- I was talking about the recent past -- the last 40 years.

I think it would be pretty neat to have a woman president, and I think Hillary is an amazing person, but I honestly don't think America is ready for a woman president.