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ladygreek 11-03-2004 03:28 PM

Siggy says it all.

mccoyred 11-03-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Sure is Quiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
I can't wait to hear all the excuses why George Bush waxed the liberals. I am going to right down in advance all the excuses to be made on about three sites I frequent. I cannot wait to battle my friends face-to-face. And the senate. The democrats may possibly have a leader in their who is anti-abortion. With more Senators, means more federal appointees. If the democrats are illegally forcing a 55 to 45 vote, using their bogus tactics and reasons may not be able to do anything to stop Supreme Court appointees as well.
GOD help U.S.

Love_Spell_6 11-03-2004 11:41 PM

Re: Sure is Quiet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
I can't wait to hear all the excuses why George Bush waxed the liberals. I am going to right down in advance all the excuses to be made on about three sites I frequent. I cannot wait to battle my friends face-to-face. And the senate. The democrats may possibly have a leader in their who is anti-abortion. With more Senators, means more federal appointees. If the democrats are illegally forcing a 55 to 45 vote, using their bogus tactics and reasons may not be able to do anything to stop Supreme Court appointees as well.
Nah you probably won't here too much..folks can dish out the rhetoric...but they can't take it.

Keep it up and you'll have folks (that probably don't even serve God) telling you how to be a Christian and questioning your allegiance to your race.

BigChill06 11-04-2004 12:08 AM

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Love_Spell_6 11-04-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Who's Gloating?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
The facts will speak for themselves. How do you figure you can tell me what is Christian and what is not? Honestly, I do not have the right to gloat, but just be thankful that Kerry did not win.

What do you mean by God help U.S.? Are you asking God for help? Are you asking God to help your President? Are you praying for Bush?

Big Chill? You left an important fact out! One Alpha man- Responsible for 45 million murders. Responsible for 536,000 Black homicides per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep it up Icon and you'll be just as popular as me LOL.. I got folks chasing down my quotes and taking them to other forums....and some wonder why I have a fan club ;)

People better stop playing with God..saying they're praying when they're not...or they may be praying..but they're praying for things contrary to whats in his word...calling others un-Christian when they don't know the first thing about Christianity...God doesn't like people messing with his children ;)

But Icon,
what on earth are u talking about with saying one alpha man is responsible for 45 million murders????

abaici 11-04-2004 03:14 PM

While you state that "we" cannot question your Christianity, you are not in the position to question ours.

I have a hard time listening to people who claim to be Christians, but who do not act Christ-like. Yes, Bush is against abortion and same-sex marriage. So am I. Are those the only two things that define being a Christian? Is he in fellowship with other believers? Are his other policies Christ-like? I do not know about the first part, however, the last part say no.


So, some beliefs are more important than others when deciding if a person is moral. Just trying to get this straight.

Ok, what does voting Democrat have to do with race??? I vote Democratic for other reasons. Frankly, I care about people. I guess I feel the 'other' morals are important.

11-04-2004 04:29 PM

Re: Who's Gloating?
 
I understood all of your rhetoric except this right here.

Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic


Big Chill? You left an important fact out! One Alpha man- Responsible for 45 million murders. Responsible for 536,000 Black homicides per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What the ____ are you talking about?

MeezDiscreet 11-04-2004 06:11 PM

Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
If you care about people, then what about the ones in the womb? Kerry is pro-abortion. A vote for him would have definitely perpetuated it. 536,000 black babies murdered per year by abortion. Nothing could be on a more moral plane aside from getting saved. A vote for any democratic Presidential candidate since 1973 would be pro-murder/abortion. One possible exception maybe Jimmy Carter. I will research that. So you consider that.

LBF- Soap anyone!

at NO time did kerry say he was pro-abortion. he is pro-choice. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

I have been a CHRISTian all of my life and understand that the Lord has given us a certain measure of free will. Any CHRISTian knows that. as weird as it may sound when i put it like this, we have the God-given right to do wrong. whenever anyone sins, be it pre-marital sex, abortion, stealing, etc., they will be forgiven (if they repent) because of Jesus' sacrifice. and a sin is a PERSONAL thing between that INDIVIDUAL and God--not some man that is elected as president of the united states. if you can't see that, you have a lot of things to reevaluate.

and one more thing: passing judgement aint the job of NO one on this message board. so comments like "people are playing with God" or people not "knowing the first thing about Christianity" are waaaaay off.

blackbird 11-04-2004 06:41 PM

Hello Iconoclastic(Minister Fred Hatchett),

I am thinking about buying your book.

But if I may ask...how come you are so morally strict and on your website (www.dontgogreek.com) on the "forum" and "guestbook" sections you have pop-ups such as "Waiting to Flirt"???

11-04-2004 07:17 PM

Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
LBF- Soap anyone!
Yes I curse but you fill in the blank with whatever word you were thinking of.

You still didn't answer the question or were you calling John Kerry an Alpha?

abaici 11-04-2004 09:23 PM

Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
If you care about people, then what about the ones in the womb? Kerry is pro-abortion. A vote for him would have definitely perpetuated it. 536,000 black babies murdered per year by abortion. Nothing could be on a more moral plane aside from getting saved. A vote for any democratic Presidential candidate since 1973 would be pro-murder/abortion. One possible exception maybe Jimmy Carter. I will research that. So you consider that.

LBF- Soap anyone!

Again, I stated that I am pro-life. However, my question is how is abortion MORE wrong than sending OUR children to fight an unjust war. Why does that one overshadow all of the other characteristcs and beliefs that Christians hold?

Bush and his ilk fight tooth and nail to end abortion. That proves that they respect life? If they respected life, they would continue to advocate for children. They would not cut money for programs that help produce happy and healthy children.

Love_Spell_6 11-05-2004 12:02 AM

Re: Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MeezDiscreet
at NO time did kerry say he was pro-abortion. he is pro-choice. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!

I have been a CHRISTian all of my life and understand that the Lord has given us a certain measure of free will. Any CHRISTian knows that. as weird as it may sound when i put it like this, we have the God-given right to do wrong. whenever anyone sins, be it pre-marital sex, abortion, stealing, etc., they will be forgiven (if they repent) because of Jesus' sacrifice. and a sin is a PERSONAL thing between that INDIVIDUAL and God--not some man that is elected as president of the united states. if you can't see that, you have a lot of things to reevaluate.

and one more thing: passing judgement aint the job of NO one on this message board. so comments like "people are playing with God" or people not "knowing the first thing about Christianity" are waaaaay off.


Do not be deceived. God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, he will also reap. For he who sows to the his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
Galatians 6.7

I quoted the above scripture to not to engage in a full fledged debate of the Bible..but to say that folks can keep on using God's grace as an excuse to sin...or repentance as a way to justify their actions if they want..but that indeed is between an individual and God...he knows your heart...

On judgment day..if you can look God in the face and be proud of the fact that you voted for a man that is in favor of killing little babies in the name of "choice"...and a man that thinks marriage or a union between a man and another man is ok...then more power to you...that indeed is between you and God

Love_Spell_6 11-05-2004 12:10 AM

Re: Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
Again, I stated that I am pro-life. However, my question is how is abortion MORE wrong than sending OUR children to fight an unjust war. Why does that one overshadow all of the other characteristcs and beliefs that Christians hold?

Bush and his ilk fight tooth and nail to end abortion. That proves that they respect life? If they respected life, they would continue to advocate for children. They would not cut money for programs that help produce happy and healthy children.

Sending grown men and woman..that signed up to be in the Armed Forces..whether they agree with the cause or not..to war..is quite different than protecting the right for an innocent child to be born into this world.

And as far as this overshadowing the beliefs that Christians hold..I guess it just depends on what is important to an individual. I could not in good conscience vote for a person that in any way shape or form validates the union of a man and a man..or a woman and a woman. God destroyed a city for it in the OT and he specifically says in the NT that its not acceptable. Now to some "christians" this isn't important...but too many..it is VERY important. And the fact that a person values a woman's choice over the life of an innocent child is more than enough to overshadow other "issues".. for some. BUt again..if one doesn't hold these values near and dear to them...I could see how it wouldn't matter to them.

Jill1228 11-05-2004 05:36 AM

Re: Re: abaici
 
No, he was going there by dissing the late great Thurgood Marshall, who rest his soul, was an Alpha. Ya know the one who did NOT write the Roe v Wade decision (the late great Justice Harry Blackmun, rest his soul, wrote the decision...I thank my lucky stars for that man)

(Yes I am a flaming AGNOSTIC PRO CHOICE sistah and damn proud of it!)...yes I said the word damn! :D

But of course he won't go there and mention that he busted his butt arguing the Brown v Board of Education ruling! :rolleyes:

For someone who kicked his Greek affiliation to the curb, it is interesting he loves to hang around here :rolleyes:



Quote:

Originally posted by laidbackfella
Yes I curse but you fill in the blank with whatever word you were thinking of.

You still didn't answer the question or were you calling John Kerry an Alpha?


abaici 11-05-2004 02:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Sending grown men and woman..that signed up to be in the Armed Forces..whether they agree with the cause or not..to war..is quite different than protecting the right for an innocent child to be born into this world.

And as far as this overshadowing the beliefs that Christians hold..I guess it just depends on what is important to an individual. I could not in good conscience vote for a person that in any way shape or form validates the union of a man and a man..or a woman and a woman. God destroyed a city for it in the OT and he specifically says in the NT that its not acceptable. Now to some "christians" this isn't important...but too many..it is VERY important. And the fact that a person values a woman's choice over the life of an innocent child is more than enough to overshadow other "issues".. for some. BUt again..if one doesn't hold these values near and dear to them...I could see how it wouldn't matter to them.

I'm aware that these men and women signed up willingly (well, let's just go with that shall we). However, do you think it's right to send people into fight a preemptive war? Do you think it's fair to send them in when there's been little to no evidence to support it.

Again, since people are not understanding, I am against abortion and gay marriage. However, I do not understand why these two issues overshadow all of the other evil things that are being done. I'm sorry, Republicans do not have a trademark on morality. I do not appreciate, nor do I think it's accurate to paint all Democrats as heathens. How many Republicans who pay lip-service to being Christians have paid for other people's abortions or came out as homosexuals?

Virtuous Woman 11-05-2004 03:13 PM

Quote:

if you can look God in the face and be proud of the fact that you voted for "... a man that thinks marriage or a union between a man and another man is ok
Kerry is/was not pro gay marriage. If you watched the debates, you would have heard him clearly say that he felt that marriage was between a man and a woman.

Virtuous Woman 11-05-2004 05:40 PM

To Iconoclastic: I know that after I post this, you will make a million nasty, un-Christ-like posts about me but I won't read them so don't waste your time.

I think that you have some points that are Biblically sound and are in accordance with what I believe however, the way that you present yourself on this message board and others is despicable. There is a way to show people the true light.

Ephesians 4:15 says that we should speak the truth in love. The way that you spread the message unfortunately tarnishes the message that you are trying to send.

I'm not disputing the Word with you but the way that you are trying to spread it is doing more harm than good. Beating people up and condemning them with your words is not beneficial and it is not Godly, AT ALL.

Jill1228 11-05-2004 05:50 PM

Re: Redefining
 
Hmmm freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion is a problem? I RESPECT others beliefs or lack thereof. (SOME people on this board have a PROBLEM with that). I don't shove my beliefs or lack thereof down other's throats

If that is a problem I sure as hell don't want or NEED to be cured!
hmmm weren't you bestowed with a scarlet B (as in banned) some time ago? I am SO flattered that you miss us! :rolleyes:

Oh yeah...I don't need to take your number, thanks! I am very happily married! :D


Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
Jill- You have one problem and you already KNOW what it is, by the fact of what you profess. Remain an unbeliever and you will just be a Mark 16:16b statistic. It's your CHOICE!

919/278-8911 for further discussion. But no one will call, because the don't know how to handle the tough issues. It's easy for them to hide behind their computers. I speak what I speak to other publicly to their faces. Furhtermore, I am not trading fifteen posts on this issue. God's Word is true and anyone who believes differently is wrong including me. Bush is President and I hope he has the courage to place roe v. wade overthrowers on the court.
If Blackmun and Marshall did not give their lives to Christ and repent of their sins, we know where they are.


ladygreek 11-05-2004 06:25 PM

Re: Redefining
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
Your sorority claims to exist for protection of the innocent.
Well thanks for this information. I never knew this. :confused:

11-07-2004 09:39 AM

Re: margaret sanger
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
margeret sanger- ms. hitler/eugenic homicidal serial whore. read, "Grand Illusions" by george grant to know the real reason she promoted abortion in this country. as to why I come to this site, you need look no further than yourself. If you think it's about hatred, you are sadly mistaken.


"As her organization grew in power and prestige, she began to target several other ill-favored and 'dysgenic races' including Blacks, Hispanics, Amerinds, Fundamentalists, and Catholics."
Grand Illusions by George Grant, 1998

The other dysgenic races are Southern Europeans, Slavs, Latins, and Jews.

This is the type of people you quote. Theytype of people you would call, "Friend".

And pastuh the underlined is the reason why no one from this site calls you.

You could actually make some lucid and worthwhile points if you'd let the message speak louder than the so called prophet.

Are you pressing your agenda or the agenda of the God you serve?

Better yet when you clicked "Submit Reply" on that last one did you ask yourself, "Would Jesus Say This?"

blackbird 11-07-2004 01:59 PM

Murder is murder, whether it is in the womb or overseas fighting for fictional weapons of mass destruction. Both Bush and Kerry were for the war in Iraq.

Love_Spell_6 11-08-2004 01:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
I'm aware that these men and women signed up willingly (well, let's just go with that shall we). However, do you think it's right to send people into fight a preemptive war? Do you think it's fair to send them in when there's been little to no evidence to support it.

Again, since people are not understanding, I am against abortion and gay marriage. However, I do not understand why these two issues overshadow all of the other evil things that are being done. I'm sorry, Republicans do not have a trademark on morality. I do not appreciate, nor do I think it's accurate to paint all Democrats as heathens. How many Republicans who pay lip-service to being Christians have paid for other people's abortions or came out as homosexuals?

I do not consider this war pre-emptive..considering we had been attacked on the USS Cole, the World Trade Center, and 9-11...this is primarily where u and I..and many others will disagree. I think our past policies of not being on the offensive against terrorists (not limited to saddam and bin laden) were silly. And I would hardly say its little evidence being that ALL credible intelligence said the same thing at the time..and the Russian President personally called Dubya TWICE to tell him he had proof we were going to be attacked..so again....many look at what i've said and will still default to the same ol rhetoric bush lied people died...or we're ignoring the war on terror because we haven't caught bin laden...but I and the majority of people in America..disagree.

Also, I think its incorrect to assume that Christians that voted for Dubya ONLY voted on the basis of gay marriage and abortion. Of course those were important..but those were not the only reasons. I know you say you don't understand why these issues are that important..but again, it depends on what's important to you. And since when have Republicans painted Democrats as heathens? I think Dems have painted themselves that way. Dems want to be everything to everybody and hand out entitlements to make people happy. Everything is acceptable all in the name of tolerance and being progressive. I hope instead of attacking Republicans for the next 4 years, the Democratic Party takes a long hard look at what they really stand for. Dems/liberals pride themselves of being so tolerant...but its funny how INtolerant they are of those who look to God/Bible to guide their daily lives...:confused:

mccoyred 11-08-2004 05:58 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: abaici
 
Since Osama bin Laden and al Queda were linked to all of the incidents you list below, how in the world is a war on Iraq (which is costing more and more American lives and money :mad: ) a pre-emptive or responsive strike to terrorism? Oh yeah, you forgot the attacks on our embassies in Africa, bin Laden was linked to those too!

Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I do not consider this war pre-emptive..considering we had been attacked on the USS Cole, the World Trade Center, and 9-11....this is primarily where u and I..and many others will disagree. I think our past policies of not being on the offensive against terrorists (not limited to saddam and bin laden) were silly. And I would hardly say its little evidence being that ALL credible intelligence said the same thing at the time..and the Russian President personally called Dubya TWICE to tell him he had proof we were going to be attacked..so again....many look at what i've said and will still default to the same ol rhetoric bush lied people died...or we're ignoring the war on terror because we haven't caught bin laden...but I and the majority of people in America..disagree.


BigChill06 11-09-2004 09:57 PM

I know I'm late but...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
Big Chill? You left an important fact out! One Alpha man- Responsible for 45 million murders. Responsible for 536,000 Black homicides per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:confused:

ladygreek 11-09-2004 10:56 PM

Re: I know I'm late but...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BigChill06
:confused:
Don't worry about it BC06. It's like him telling me the purpose of my sorority. He really doesn't know jack.

ladygreek 11-10-2004 09:51 PM

Re: Someone already answered the question!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
LG- Nice jab to the ribs. Your experience with DST gives your more head knowledge than me, but I know more than jack about your sorority. Enough to be enabled by God to lead many DST's to denounce. I have had the most success with DST in this ministry. So evidently, I know a little jack. I do what I do for a reason. It's my passion for souls.
Like I said--you don't know jack.

blackbird 11-11-2004 12:34 AM

Iconoclastic, what do you mean by "It's my passion for souls"?

Love_Spell_6 11-11-2004 11:54 AM

Re: Someone already answered the question!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
LG- Nice jab to the ribs. Your experience with DST gives your more head knowledge than me, but I know more than jack about your sorority. Enough to be enabled by God to lead many DST's to denounce. I have had the most success with DST in this ministry. So evidently, I know a little jack. I do what I do for a reason. It's my passion for souls.
Go on and say whatcha gotta say bro. It's evident that God is using you in certain areas, so I say Keep on Keeping on. Many of my "Sorors" are in bondage to Delta, and only God can show them the way... I leave this scripture for you Iconoclastic


But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.
Titus 3.9

1_zetaemerald 11-14-2004 04:00 AM

All I can do is pray, pray, pray....

Oh did I forget to mention...PRAY!!!

GOD has the final say so over everything!!

Boom_Quack13 11-16-2004 12:21 AM

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Somebody must have been bust in the head with a paddle for real. This has got to be the biggest crock of BS on GC. :rolleyes:

Edited to correctly identify site. ;)

abaici 11-16-2004 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Somebody must have been bust in the head with a paddle for real. This has got to be the biggest crock of BS on SG. :rolleyes:

Girl, this is GC!!

Senusret I 11-16-2004 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
Girl, this is GC!!
LOLOLOLOL

whew!

Boom_Quack13 11-18-2004 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
Girl, this is GC!!
So, it is. My bad. Used to SG.

abaici 11-18-2004 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
So, it is. My bad. Used to SG.

Now prob. Senusret I and I enjoyed the giggle. LOL!!!

reddawn18 11-19-2004 02:26 PM

Re: Read Your Bible and See!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Iconoclastic
You answer this honestly and you will see why there is no need to answer you. Do you think Jesus would use profanity?
No, Jesus would not use profanity. But he wouldn't use the words/names that you have on this board.

As a christian woman, you have insulted god by preaching hate. Jesus never was harsh on people and pushing an agenda as you are right now.

Sir, if you are gonna preach then preach don't take the "low" ground in your rebuttals. When you do, you only make yourself look falsely to those who don't know the right path--not neccessarily your path.

Your comments on this board is cementing an opinion of you. And you are not a true man of god nor a prophet! If you were, you would preach love and understanding not hate.

My two cents...

Boom_Quack13 11-19-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
Now prob. Senusret I and I enjoyed the giggle. LOL!!!
So did I. I hope it's cool to laugh at yourself around here, because I keep me in stitches. :D

moe.ron 11-23-2004 06:07 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: abaici
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I do not consider this war pre-emptive..considering we had been attacked on the USS Cole, the World Trade Center, and 9-11...this is primarily where u and I..and many others will disagree. I think our past policies of not being on the offensive against terrorists (not limited to saddam and bin laden) were silly. And I would hardly say its little evidence being that ALL credible intelligence said the same thing at the time..and the Russian President personally called Dubya TWICE to tell him he had proof we were going to be attacked..so again....many look at what i've said and will still default to the same ol rhetoric bush lied people died...or we're ignoring the war on terror because we haven't caught bin laden...but I and the majority of people in America..disagree.
The Iraq War is not pre-emptive strike. For a country to envoke pre-emptive strike, the country must feel an imenent threats by another country. The opposing country must present credible threats to the country or its allies. It must also show an intent to strikes the country. This will give legitimacy to the pre-emptive strikes. Does Iraq fulfil any of this criteria. No.

Iraq did not have the means to attack the United States. Its military is in dissaray and it has no missile that could even reach the UK, let alone the US. So, it does not have the means. As for Putin saying that he had information about Iraq wanting to do it, this is also the same Putin which was against the war. A senior inteligence agent in the US said that he was "not aware of any specific threat information we were told" about Iraqi activities before the March 2003 invasion. Putin also admitted that he has no evidence, whatsoever, that Saddam's regime has committed any terrorist acts.


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