Ole Miss Rush
 

Has anyone heard how Rush went at Ole Miss? I know there Bid Day was yesterday. Did everyone make quota? Are there any new pledges lurking around the board from Ole Miss?

Here you go! There may be other threads on GC about Ole Miss this year as well.


http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...825#post856825

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...147#post857147

Hello, I posted this in one of those threads she posted, I think. Everyone made quota at Ole Miss except for Theta and DG. I think they are the only two. OleMissGlitter might know if anyone else didn't but I think that's it. She said AOII took quota (80) plus 5. And I know Phi Mu took quota (80) plus 4. I don't know specifics of the other houses...

Wow! I can't believe that every sorority didn't make quota. I actually went to Ole Miss my freshman year, and I remember DG and Theta both being great sororities. DG was founded at Ole Miss, and I can't believe they didn't make quota. Anyone know why this Rush was different for them this year? I mean didn't all the sororities make quota last year? It just seems odd to me that 2 great sororities didn't make quota. That's awful.

According to info on our forum we got 75 at Ole Miss so I guess we were only 5 off. Also, we weren't really founded at Ole Miss. It was the Lewis School for Women which isn't around anymore but was located in MS. But Ole Miss is one of our older and strongest chapters from what I understand :)

Taking 75 is still amazing to me!!!!!

Just because they didn't make quota doesn't mean they aren't a strong chapter...they are. I don't know why they didn't because they always have as long as I've been there. Like 2 years ago Tri Delt didn't make quota and they are a great chapter as well. And everyone made it last year. So sometimes at Ole Miss you just never know. Seriously..they are REALLY all good.


Also Delta Gamma was founded at Lewis college in Oxford and that chapter moved to Ole Miss when Lewis College closed. the reason I know this is because my sister is a DG. She went to U of Tenessee and graduated in 1999.

Let me clarify something. I wasn't being critical of DG or Theta (or any other chapter for that matter) for not making quota. At my school my chapter's main goal was to first get the girls we wanted, and 2nd make quota. Therefore maybe I placed too much on making quota, because it was such a big deal at my school and to our sorority's National office. 75 is a wonderful number and a very large number. I am sure DG and Theta got the girls they wanted. I didn't mean to offend anyone, as I know that DG and Theta are great chapters at Ole Miss. I just wondered why they didn't make quota. That's all.

chiosamford
 

i didn't take your comments as slams-just curiosity. of course, the chapter of my sorority at ole miss closed several years ago, so i don't really have any leg to stand on. :-)

how did the chapters at samford do? my daughter (a h.s. jr.) is considering attending samford, so i may have a vested interest there some day! lisa

All 9 houses did very well this year. Yes, two houses did not make quota, but that doesn't really hurt either house because they both have great members and are doing great number wise. There were quite a few PNMs who suicided their favorite house and consequently, they were released from recruitment. For some reason, the drop-out rate was higher to me than in previous years. We are still waiting on numbers and stats, etc.

-Katherine, AOII Chapter Advisor

FSUZeta:
Samford is an awesome school and I loved the 3 years I spent there. I am not sure how recruitment went for them there this year, but I need to email my chapter and find out. I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
There are a lot of people from FL who go to Samford, and Zeta has a really strong chapter there. They have a great Greek system with about 50% of the student body involved. There are 5 sororities

Chi Omega (My chapter)
Zeta Tau Alpha
Phi Mu
Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi

Plus the school is gorgeous and Birmingham totally rocks as a city. I am now married and living in VA but I took my husband to B'ham this summer to see Samford (he's from PA) and he thought it was awesome and a beautiful campus! (This coming from a Duke grad makes me proud!) Anyway have her check it out because I completely miss it!

If your daughter has any questions about Samford, I'd be happy to email her about it. I loved it! Just let me know!

dear chi o samford
 

we actually visited samford(and birmingham southern and wofford, in s.c.) this past summer. you are so right, the samford campus is gorgeous-just what a college should look like! thank you for your offer of info. i'll pass it on to her! :-) lisa

As a Northern fascinated by all things Southern in terms of rush, what constitutes a "top" PNM at Ole Miss? High school grade and activities? Looks? Family status? Legacy status? All of the above? Just curious!

Aphi Diva... when I have a chance I will PM you...

I must first say... that what constitutes a "TOP" PNM is what your chapter wants in a NM.

IMHO... The answer to your question is, in short... all the above. To expand... a legacy to a competing house is almost as attractive a NM, as your GLO's legacies.

More importantly, there are a few PNMs that every house is interested...

A young lady that is so incredible all around... she is most likely a "Mississippi" legacy (if we are talking Chi O, DDD, DG, KD, and Phi Mu)... has a good GPA; involved in school, church (important), and community activities; and comes from a certain area or high school.... looks... well all Mississippi Girls are beautiful!! :p

I just cannot imagine that any chapter would not look for these things in a NM. However, I am only speaking from my opinion and knowledge.

I think it was probably a wise decision for DG not to snap bid. I didn't know that they declined. I left Oxford right after the girls got thier bids, so I didn't really know many details etc. Because I'm sure they got girls they wanted and it would probably not be best to snap bid 5 people that they obviously didn't want OR didn't know. When you give out random bids you MAY end up with a few members that aren't a good fit with your house.

I'm sure DG at Ole Miss knows what is best for its chapter's reputation, but I sure feel bad for those bidless girls. If they were eligible for snaps, we know they didn't suicide. It's a real shame that there was room for them in the system but the sorority said no. I can't help wondering if "lowering their standards" enough to take them would really have hurt the chapter the way I'm sure the exclusion from all sororities is hurting the girls; it's hard to believe that they're such losers or troublemakers that they couldn't find a niche in a 273-member chapter. From everything I hear, it sounds like that's not an easy campus to be bidless at.

Out of curiosity, the new Miss America is a graduate of Samford (as you probably know!). Was she a member of any GLO?

I think that's a little harsh. I've never actually visited to this chapter, but in all four years as a Delta Gamma, I've heard a lot about it. It is a LEGENDARY chapter, and LEGENDARY house. It is practically our Alpha chapter, since our Alpha chapter closed and this chapter's in Oxford. Obviously, I can't go into too much on here, but I completely agree with their decision, because if there were 75 girls who met their standards, I don't think taking 5 more just to make quota was necessary. Especially since, from what I've heard, their standards are HIGH.

Not that I'm questioning DG's decision not to snap bid, but when you consider that the PNMs that are invited to Pref were there because the chapter understood they could be a new member the next day, the decision does appear to be a little shortsighted. That might seem a little simplistic, but I can't imagine not taking the full allotment allowed if at all possible. However, I doubt that 5 fewer members will make a difference in the long run, but I can't help thinking like IvySpice that there could have been room for a couple more in the new member class. I'm glad DG is pleased with how recruitment turned out for them--I guess in the end, that's all that matters.

CarolinaDG, the DG chapter at Ole Miss is a wonderful chapter, so all that you have heard is true.

Nothing says they had to have been at DG's pref to be snapped. For all we know, these are girls that DG released first round.

I have to say I totally understand this viewpoint...When I rushed at Ole Miss in 2001 a very good friend of mine did not get a bid. She is a wonderful person and would have been a great sister. However what hurt her was that she did not have recs for all the sororities and her GPA was just above a 2.5 (the minimum).

As I stressed before, I don't doubt that the Ole Miss DG's know what is best for their chapter. The problem is that the panhellenic quota system is based on the assumption that chapters will take quota if they can, and that when chapters don't meet quota, it's because girls weren't willing to pledge there. If one chapter _chooses_ not to take quota, effectively shrinking the size of the Panhellenic new member class, other chapters are still forbidden to take the extra girls, and the effect is the same as if quota had been miscalculated based on too few PNMs. Maybe a good solution would be allowing the other chapters to go further over quota to take the unsnapped girls if the one chapter with space for them declines to use it. That way the elite chapter can stick to its standards without decreasing the number of spots available in the system as a whole, and it wouldn't raise the usual concerns about monster chapters taking over the rest by going over quota -- obviously only a very strong and confident chapter would deliberately take a smaller pledge class.

I still think even if every chapter were given the option of taking those girls no one would do it. All of the houses there are confident and strong. And they would just be giving girls bids just to give them out. They obviously felt strong enough about not inviting those girls back in previous rounds.... or didn't think they were a good fit for their chapter.

honeychile:
Miss America went to UVA her freshman year on a volleyball scholarship and then transfered to Samford as a sophomore. She was not in a sorority at Samford, but I've heard that she was in sorority at UVA, I just don't know which one. I am an advisor for Chi Omega at UVA and I do know that she wasn't a Chi-O. After that I'm not sure. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.