Michael Moore
 

I havent seen his newest movie, but i really liked roger and me. I had to watch it for a class a few years back.

I think it would be worth watching before you go see him, that is if you are going to go. :)

Just curious, but did your professor not challenge any of Moore's assertions in that film? Did anyone? What was the class about?

I wish hell upon the greediest of the dominant coalition, so I didn't mind seeing Roger Smith portrayed in not such a great light. The only thing that stood out in Roger and me was that there was a Delta Sig being interviewed (reisdent of Flint).

We had to watch it for a class too, but my prof is in love with Michael Moore.

Re: Michael Moore
 

I'm sure most of the film-school art assholes will grab firmly ahold of his nuts, but Moore is a self-righteous clown, no more correct or important than the people he lampoons.

He's as far from the "genius" he's been labeled as is humanly possible - he's actually wasted the amazing potential he once carried. He is one of the best technical filmmakers I've ever seen - but his endless posturing and politiking, even while short on "facts" or "evenhandedness" gets old fast. Shit in a t-shirt, that's all I have to say.

Make sure your tomatoes are juicy and rotten.
He's coming to ISU next month.

He'll be at UCF on Oct. 2. I guess he's trying to make his rounds before the election.

What did that movie have to do with outsourcing?

Don't put your hands near his mouth.

The class that I had to watch it for was Urban Public Issues.. I was an Urban Planning major.

There wasn’t much discussion done on it in class, it was a larger class, he just had us watched different movies throughout the semester to show different effects things can have on a community and what can be done as urban planners.

With all this uproar over him lately though, it does make me want to go back and watch it again since I haven’t seen it in a while, along with his other movies just to see them.


oh and the movie was about general motors moving all of its jobs overseas and closing down its plants in flint michigan where the community was basically built up around the plants.

I guess he is coming to our campus on wednesday.

The funny part was that our school wanted to invite him and he said no less than $50,000 and 5000 audience members. But now he is coming for free??

Oh well!

Re: Re: Michael Moore
 

Most of the film school kiddies (from the serious film schools) I know/knew can't stand M.M. On the realm of documentary film makers, he's seen as rather lowbrow.

"Roger and Me" is probably a pretty good movie to show the impact of industry leaving an area.

His movie is pretty technically profficient.

Where he is a genius is that he is using really emotive imagery to get across a very simple message.

I can see why there is a lot of confusion, his documentary really crossed into the mainstream. I doubt if a lot of the people that saw his movie has seen anything but a historical documentary, in passing, while flipping through channels.


Note: A lot of the film school students I have met from the better schools seem a trifle snobby towards people that didn't attend film school.

As well they should.

Well there are a lot of people in the industry that made good films and lots of money and never attended film school.

That being said: I would recomend anyone go to film school if you know you want to make films prior to your undergrad.

IT also makes sense to attend film school in a major market such as LA and NYC. You pay for the contacts even more than the education.

Well, He came and went.



and he was the Shit!

Yeah he is "Shit!"

-Rudey

no, THE shit.


:cool:

You can put whatever word you want in front of "shit". Moore is still "shit". Heck put two words: Moore is a "piece of shit".

-Rudey

I think I just fell in love with you Rudey. ;) hehehe

I enjoyed Roger and Me until seeing BFC. BFC is a HUGE propaganda flick. It concerned me that there were so many deceptions in it. I hesitate to call them lies because Moore never comes out and tells you what he did, he just presents it in such a way that you will assume what you saw is true. I have debated gun control and the Second Amendment for longer than many of you have been alive and can tell you that Moore put so much garbage in that movie that it is nothing more than a huge lie.

..Same thing happened at my school. From what I understand, we were going to have him here 5 days before the election, paying $35,000 to get him to talk, but so many people protested that our President cancelled it. For whatever reason, he is still coming for free. If he comes, I'm not sure I'll go...I watched Bowling for Columbine, and wrote a 15 page paper about it for a Rhetoric Class...completely tore it apart. I'm NOT a fan of his. :rolleyes:

I guess I'm showing typical Clifornia liberal (although not quite as liberal as Mr. Moore) side but.. == shrugs == I dunno I kinda like him. He came to my school last year and spoke and I own an autographed copy of Bowling for Columbine.
When I heard him speak I have to admit I didn't agree with SOME of what he said... but his general message (at least what I got out of his speech) getting off our asses and not being apathetic. I agree with that... maybe not with everything else he says, but at the very least he gets people involved who may not have been involved before.
I think the film kids at my school are part of the reason he came. Course I wouldn't think that quite liberal California and an ESPECIALllY liberal campus such as my alama mater would be the norm throughout America.
Even if you don't like his films or don't think you'll agree with what he has to say,I still recommend seeing him speak because I know he got me thinking and researching some things on my own and what's most important is that we don't just take for granted everything we hear on TV or in the Newspaper, we have to go to several sources and come to our own conclusions.


-I will step down from my soap box now -