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IowaStatePhiPsi 09-15-2004 08:44 PM

Guess who has more DWIs than GWB
 
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l?link=rssfeed

damn drunks.:p

Kevin 09-15-2004 09:24 PM

Now that Carville is part of the Kerry campaign, they've really pulled out all the stops, eh?

James 09-15-2004 09:55 PM

DUI, doesn't make you a bad person or a bad leader. Although it is a PC topic today.

DeltAlum 09-15-2004 10:01 PM

Certainly not a campaign issue.

PhiPsiRuss 09-15-2004 10:18 PM

I thought that this thread was going to be about Ted Kennedy.

Rudey 09-15-2004 10:48 PM

I bet it's Ted Kennedy, Democrat. I hear he wishes he could run for president but one nasty DUI incident especially ruined it for him.

-Rudey

hoosier 09-15-2004 10:48 PM

More TK bashing
 
Massachusetts' Sen. Ted Kennedy "is launching a seven-week election drive" on Kerry's behalf. As if Kerry needs help running his campaign off a bridge.

AGDee 09-15-2004 11:01 PM

Why can't they just leave the past in the past and focus on their performances in office, their stances on issues and the RECENT past? Sheesh! This campaign is really getting to be a joke.

Dee

The1calledTKE 09-15-2004 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I bet it's Ted Kennedy, Democrat. I hear he wishes he could run for president but one nasty DUI incident especially ruined it for him.

-Rudey

In this day in age even that might not stop him from getting elected. Presidents get voted in for stuff that in the past would have forced them to drop out from running.

Rudey 09-15-2004 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by The1calledTKE
In this day in age even that might not stop him from getting elected. Presidents get voted in for stuff that in the past would have forced them to drop out from running.
The crime qualified as manslaughter because his license had expired (although this was quickly fixed up during the investigation). This is definitely awful stuff.

Other things that Ted did:
1) Ted was not nominated even by the DNC which chose Carter.
2) Ted managed to attack the Shah of Iran and show he was an ignorant animal and thus provide support to the terrorists that held Americans hostage in Iran.
3) Ted also went on a CBS interview in front of all of America and was asked why he wanted to be President. Ted mumbled and sounded drunk - in front of all of America.

Ted has never since run for President and he is scum and you know it. The only thing keeping him prominent is his last name - otherwise the Democrats would have dropped his ass a long time ago to avoid further embarassment.

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream 09-15-2004 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Ted has never since run for Senator and he is scum and you know it. The only thing keeping him prominent is his last name - otherwise the Democrats would have dropped his ass a long time ago to avoid further embarassment.

-Rudey

Rudey, Senator Kennedy is a Senator and has held been a Senator since 1962. He has been re-elected seven times since he replaced his brother and is the second most senior member of the Senate.

Rudey 09-15-2004 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Rudey, Senator Kennedy is a Senator and has held been a Senator since 1962. He has been re-elected seven times since he replaced his brother and is the second most senior member of the Senate.
Given that we were talking about him running for president, I'm glad you picked up on my obvious mistake and provided the explanation on how long the scum has been in office.

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream 09-15-2004 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Given that we were talking about him running for president, I'm glad you picked up on my obvious mistake and provided the explanation on how long the scum has been in office.

-Rudey

No problem. Now it would be nice if you could stop referring to the Senator as scum.

Rudey 09-15-2004 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
No problem. Now it would be nice if you could stop referring to the Senator as scum.
Is POS better?

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream 09-16-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Is POS better?

-Rudey


I think that a certain amount of respect should be given to the office even if you don't agree with or like the individual holding the office. I had written the same thing about the late Sen. Strom Thurman when he passed away so this isn't a partisan thing for me. Referring to any Senator, Congressman, or President as scum or POS is extremely disrespectful in my opinion.

Rudey 09-16-2004 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I think that a certain amount of respect should be given to the office even if you don't agree with or like the individual holding the office. I had written the same thing about the late Sen. Strom Thurman when he passed away so this isn't a partisan thing for me. Referring to any Senator, Congressman, or President as scum or POS is extremely disrespectful in my opinion.
No. The issue with Thurman was someone who had passed on. Once you get a label of politician it doesn't earn you the right to do whatever and people just keep quiet out of respect for it. This isn't a partisan thing. I've disliked many a Republican and find some to be scum. Kennedy is a worthless waste of space.

-Rudey

The1calledTKE 09-16-2004 06:11 AM

Rudey has a right to think Kennedy is scum. Just like I have a right to think Bush is scum.

Kevin 09-16-2004 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Rudey has a right to think Kennedy is scum. Just like I have a right to think Bush is scum.
You want to compare those two? Right now?

Bush's issues with chemical dependency are in the past and to our knowledge have not resulted in anyone's death.

Kennedy still has a problem right now and has actually killed someone.

How is Bush scum?

Rudey 09-16-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Rudey has a right to think Kennedy is scum. Just like I have a right to think Bush is scum.
You have a right to think pigs can fly, but it means nothing and is irrelevant.

I have a right to think that a murderer is scum and I have an absolute right to believe that a politician who supported terrorist thugs taking over my native country is scum.

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
You want to compare those two? Right now?

Bush's issues with chemical dependency are in the past and to our knowledge have not resulted in anyone's death.

Kennedy still has a problem right now and has actually killed someone.

How is Bush scum?

LAURA BUSH KILLED SOMEONE TOO.

XOXOHTH.

Rudey 09-16-2004 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
LAURA BUSH KILLED SOMEONE TOO.

XOXOHTH.

Is Laura running for any political position?
How old was Laura?
Was she drunk?
Did she have an expired drivers license?

You very well know that the two aren't the same at all.

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Is Laura running for any political position?
How old was Laura?
Was she drunk?
Did she have an expired drivers license?

You very well know that the two aren't the same at all.

-Rudey

She's "running" for first lady I know they aren't the same but if we're going to play mean then let's play mean.

The twins had an invite only party at my school yesterday. I wasn't invited. :(

Rudey 09-16-2004 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
She's "running" for first lady I know they aren't the same but if we're going to play mean then let's play mean.

The twins had an invite only party at my school yesterday. I wasn't invited. :(

If you look at my post you just replied to, I listed several questions which make the two entirely different. There is a reason why Democrats don't bring up Laura because they know it is nothing comparable to Ted Kennedy and they'd be embarassed. Now you're thinking like IowaStatePhiPsi, sadly.

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
If you look at my post you just replied to, I listed several questions which make the two entirely different. There is a reason why Democrats don't bring up Laura because they know it is nothing comparable to Ted Kennedy and they'd be embarassed. Now you're thinking like IowaStatePhiPsi, sadly.

-Rudey

Ted's not married to the President.

Rudey 09-16-2004 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Ted's not married to the President.
And she did not do what Ted did. Read what I wrote Mrs. IowaStatePhiPsi.

-Rudey

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
And she did not do what Ted did. Read what I wrote Mrs. IowaStatePhiPsi.

-Rudey

No, she did it sober. I don't even see why Ted Kennedy is being discussed. He'll never be President.

And IAPP and I will never be married for a vast number of reasons. We'll start with the fact that he's a Deaniac.

KSigkid 09-16-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Is Laura running for any political position?
How old was Laura?
Was she drunk?
Did she have an expired drivers license?

You very well know that the two aren't the same at all.

-Rudey

I can answer those - No, no, and no...and I believe she was in her teens when it happened. She also did not flee the scene and was extremely cooperative with authorities throughout the process.

I'm not sure you can compare the two accidents, even if both resulted in loss of life.

I'm not saying either is all that relevant...but there is a difference.

Rudey 09-16-2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
No, she did it sober. I don't even see why Ted Kennedy is being discussed. He'll never be President.

And IAPP and I will never be married for a vast number of reasons. We'll start with the fact that he's a Deaniac.

There were more questions than that.

And the topic was about DUI so I believe Ted Kennedy, a Democrat who likes to drink and drive without a license and kill innocent people would qualify.

-Rudey

KSig RC 09-16-2004 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
No, she did it sober. I don't even see why Ted Kennedy is being discussed. He'll never be President.

And IAPP and I will never be married for a vast number of reasons. We'll start with the fact that he's a Deaniac.


whoa wait - are you insinuating that an accident, something that happens while sober, is somehow WORSE than committing a crime that results in a death?!

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSig RC
whoa wait - are you insinuating that an accident, something that happens while sober, is somehow WORSE than committing a crime that results in a death?!
No, I'm just saying that Laura Bush has also hit someone with a car.

Rudey 09-16-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
No, I'm just saying that Laura Bush has also hit someone with a car.
I've heard of those people that make random remarks.

http://www.office-humour.co.uk/inclu...03/10/1107.jpg

-Rudey

DeltAlum 09-16-2004 02:36 PM

While I don't thing any of them are relevent to the election, if you're going to bring up one persons past, that opens the door to the rest.

Rudey 09-16-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
While I don't thing any of them are relevent to the election, if you're going to bring up one persons past, that opens the door to the rest.
Yeah well the Democrats wanted to talk about DWI/DUI and I guess Ted Kennedy, came up because of his vast experience. He is serving on the DUI committee in congress I heard.

-Rudey

Kimmie1913 09-16-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
whoa wait - are you insinuating that an accident, something that happens while sober, is somehow WORSE than committing a crime that results in a death?!
I thnk that both Laura Bush's accident and Ted Kennedy are irrelevant to the election.

Eveything I have read on her accident was that she ran a stop sign and caused the fatal accident. Running a stop sign is a crime and one of the behaviors of drivers that frequently casues accidents. Not implyig it is at all worse than drunk driving.

Rudey 09-16-2004 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmie1913
I thnk that both Laura Bush's accident and Ted Kennedy are irrelevant to the election.

Eveything I have read on her accident was that she ran a stop sign and caused the fatal accident. Running a stop sign is a crime and one of the behaviors of drivers that frequently casues accidents. Not implyig it is at all worse than drunk driving.

Again, it was an accident and in no way comparable to a man who drives drunk and doesn't have a license.

Again, the topic was DWI and not the election.

Again, Laura Bush was not involved in a DWI.

-Rudey

AlphaGamDiva 09-16-2004 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
LAURA BUSH KILLED SOMEONE TOO.

XOXOHTH.

what is this, like the 15th time you've blown this up way out of proportion????? :mad:

i really hope that you are never the cause of an accident b/c i would hate for someone to keep throwing something that horrible (and that probably haunts you everyday) in your face. she's not a murderer, as you have stated before, and if you were knowledgeable about the entire incident, you would know that several ppl had run that stop sign b/c it was hard to see......she was, i believe, only 18 when it happened....and she was sober and cooperative. case closed.

if ol' theresa/"tootsie" had done this, would you still be wanting to tar and feather her? i doubt it.

and, uh, chappaquiddick, anyone?

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaGamDiva
what is this, like the 15th time you've blown this up way out of proportion????? :mad:

i really hope that you are never the cause of an accident b/c i would hate for someone to keep throwing something that horrible (and that probably haunts you everyday) in your face. she's not a murderer, as you have stated before, and if you were knowledgeable about the entire incident, you would know that several ppl had run that stop sign b/c it was hard to see......she was, i believe, only 18 when it happened....and she was sober and cooperative. case closed.

if ol' theresa/"tootsie" had done this, would you still be wanting to tar and feather her? i doubt it.

and, uh, chappaquiddick, anyone?

I just knew you'd have something intelligent to say. :cool:

AlphaGamDiva 09-16-2004 03:27 PM

and i just knew you'd have a witty remark.

when are you going into politics, anyway? i wanna be on your phone list. :cool:

GeekyPenguin 09-16-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaGamDiva
and i just knew you'd have a witty remark.

when are you going into politics, anyway? i wanna be on your phone list. :cool:

After I finish school. I won't be running in your state though.

AlphaGamDiva 09-16-2004 03:30 PM

oh, well i figured with your political expertise you'd just go straight to the national level.

damn.


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