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AznSAE 09-09-2004 12:30 PM

The Apprentice 2
 
It begins tonight! I wonder who the next Omarosa will be? :)

ADPiAkron 09-09-2004 12:44 PM

I am sooooooooooo excited! I will tune in tonight once BB5 is over! Yes, I know I need help! ;)

VIOLETGRL24 09-10-2004 12:13 AM

I love this show!!!

ShaedyKD 09-10-2004 12:18 AM

Re: The Apprentice 2
 
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Originally posted by AznSAE
I wonder who the next Omarosa will be? :)
Stacie J? I believe this quote gives her the qualifications to be the next Omarosa: "They were being very anti-social...no, more like anti-Stacie." (When she was talking about her fellow team members).

I almost wish the Donald would say "It's elimination time, bitches!" But I loved it when he was like "I missed saying this these past few months. YOU'RE FIRED." I <3 Donald Trump!

ADPiAkron 09-10-2004 11:58 AM

I loved last nights episode-- what the h*ll were they thinking with "Crustacean Nation"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, I saw that this Saturday there will be another episode with addtl footage from the 1st one! I do not think it is a repeat of the 1st episode-- am I correct?

mu_agd 09-10-2004 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by ADPiAkron
I loved last nights episode-- what the h*ll were they thinking with "Crustacean Nation"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, I saw that this Saturday there will be another episode with addtl footage from the 1st one! I do not think it is a repeat of the 1st episode-- am I correct?

they are repeating last nights episode but including an additional 20 minutes from the board room. they are trying to get viewers to watch a second time by doing that, therefore increasing the ratings.

WCUgirl 09-10-2004 12:23 PM

That Raj guy is strange....

DWAlphaGam 09-10-2004 03:24 PM

Weee! I love the Apprentice.

I think the next Omarosa is going to be that Maria girl (I think that's her name; the short-haired one). Stacy is more like Tammy than Omarosa, I think.

Raj is trying too hard to be crazy like Sam. What he doesn't realize is that wearing bizarre clothes doesn't make you genuinely crazy, like Sam was, it just makes you weird.

I was :eek: when Patricia kept talking about that kid's haircut. I was positive that that moustached dude was the kid's dad, and that he was going to slug her for talking sh!t about his son, since they kept cutting to him everytime she said something. I'm glad Carolyn put her in her place.

I'm going to be watching again tomorrow night. Donald Trump has succeeded at brainwashing me with his shiny, gaudy gold apartment and fascinatingly bad hair.

LeslieAGD 09-10-2004 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
I was :eek: when Patricia kept talking about that kid's haircut. I was positive that that moustached dude was the kid's dad, and that he was going to slug her for talking sh!t about his son, since they kept cutting to him everytime she said something. I'm glad Carolyn put her in her place.
That kid's haircut WAS awful...but I couldn't believe she actually said that outloud in front of ppl judging her performance.

LauGh A Lot 09-10-2004 10:20 PM

omg i love this show! i think stacy will be the next omarosa. what was up with her anyways? she got all psycho. my favorite so far is Andy, i think he's so hot. he reminds me of nick. they're both great debators in the board room.

LauGh A Lot 09-10-2004 10:20 PM

bump!

DZviol 09-12-2004 05:56 PM

I only watched parts of it, but I did see the part where that girl was making fun of the little boy's haircut. That was awful!!

hannahgirl 09-12-2004 11:05 PM

I missed the first episode. I was at the DG house helping with recruitment! Hopefully NBC will replay it the hour before the new episode every week like they did the last season!

valkyrie 09-17-2004 12:48 AM

HOLY CRAP is really all I have to say about tonight's boardroom. I don't really agree with the decision, but then I'm broke as all hell and will never have a bad combover, so who cares about my opinion.

wrigley 09-17-2004 01:49 AM

All I have to say about tonight's episode is

WTF WERE YOU THINKING??!!!!!!!,
He gaves his immunity away and it came to bite in the butt.

I didn't expect tonight's decision. I think Stacie was kept around for the added drama.

I'm not familiar with NYC if the carts were a half a block a part when they were lost why not send one of the team members to find them?

DWAlphaGam 09-17-2004 08:53 AM

Ok, so Trump fired Bradford because he made a rash decision. But wasn't Trump's decision just as rash as Bradford's? He said himself that Bradford was the best person in the room (which I disagree with), so why, as a businessman, would you get rid of your best person? I think the Trumpster was being a bit of a hypocrite.

Carolyn was thrilled to see "the Bradford" go, you could just tell.

I think Ivana is going to need to go visit the show's psychologist after this boardroom. I thought she was going to need someone to help her up.

Supposedly the boardroom for last night's episode was 4 hours long, which is why the episode ended up being 1 1/2 hrs. That must have still been a nightmare to edit.


ETA: Wrigley, they should have been able to see the other cart, especially with the giant red umbrella on it. Even if they couldn't see it, 42nd & 7th and 42nd & Broadway are really really close, and if they had taken about 2 minutes to walk down the street, they would have found it. The women were just being bitchy and stupid, IMO.

AlphaSigOU 09-17-2004 10:04 AM

Methinks The Donald did it pour encourager les autres. Bradford fell on his sword when he gave up his immunity. Noble gesture but it won't win you points in the boardroom.

MysticCat 09-17-2004 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by DWAlphaGam
Ok, so Trump fired Bradford because he made a rash decision. But wasn't Trump's decision just as rash as Bradford's? He said himself that Bradford was the best person in the room (which I disagree with), so why, as a businessman, would you get rid of your best person?
I, like Caroline (er, Carolyn), think Trump made a great decision, and I don't think it was rash at all.

Bradford may have been the best businessman there -- that is, he may have had the best business skills (arguable, but I'll go with it) -- but his biggest liability was his cockiness, a cockiness that led him to make a rash and impulsive decision when it mattered because he was so secure in his own invulnerability that he didn't think about the implications of what he was doing. Like Trump said, that sort of thing can ruin a company in a heartbeat. It showed incredible stupidity and lack of judgment.

As for Ivana, the smartest thing she did was bringing Bradford into the boardroom, because she would have been gone otherwise. Thing is, I'm not sure she realized it when she brought Bradford in.

madmax 09-17-2004 03:24 PM

Who are your predictions for the winner?

I have it narrowed down to about 5. Raj, the Italian stockbroker from NY, Maria, the blond Jennifer and brunette Jennifer even though Trump seems to hate her. I think Raj is going to win.

LauGh A Lot 09-17-2004 03:56 PM

last nights boardroom decission was insane! i didn't think the donald would fire Bradford. I think it was dumb of bradford to give up his immunity, but i also think it was dumb in trump's part to fire him.

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Bradford may have been the best businessman there -- that is, he may have had the best business skills (arguable, but I'll go with it) -- but his biggest liability was his cockiness, a cockiness that led him to make a rash and impulsive decision when it mattered because he was so secure in his own invulnerability that he didn't think about the implications of what he was doing.
yes.. bradford was cocky, but i don't think that's always a bad thing in the business world. look at trump, he's the epitome of cockiness and yet he's a self made billionare.

wrigley 09-17-2004 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by LauGh A Lot
[B
yes.. bradford was cocky, but i don't think that's always a bad thing in the business world. look at trump, he's the epitome of cockiness and yet he's a self made billionare. [/B]
Trump is not self made by any means. He had help from his father who gave him the money to purchase his first hotel. Fred Trump was either in real estate or construction and left behind multi million dollar company for Donald Trump to build from as well as his business contacts.

LauGh A Lot 09-17-2004 09:41 PM

thanks for the info! i didn't know that! i'll restate my sentance:
"look at trump, he's the epitome of cockiness and yet he's still a billionare."

jojapeach 09-18-2004 10:25 PM

That was GRRRRRRRREAT TV!
 
I didn't know I was going to be watching TWO HOURS of the show. All that extra boardroom footage was very interesting, and it was hilarious to hear Donald sigh while Ivana was talking, but all of that inane arguing and attempts at self-preservation gave me an insane headache. :rolleyes:


I agree with the decision because that was just plain dumb to give up your safety net.

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
His biggest liability was his cockiness, a cockiness that led him to make a rash and impulsive decision when it mattered because he was so secure in his own invulnerability that he didn't think about the implications of what he was doing.
100% co-sign. I was floored when he told Bradford he was fired. I pray to God that a lot of people took a lesson from that kind of cockiness and poor-decision making. I don't think he'll ever get an opportunity like that again, and now it's wasted.

BTW, I'm predicting that all of the women will gang up against Ivana and make sure she's gone before Stacie J. because she lost a highly valuable member for the team. Bradford shouldn't have put himself in that position, but Ivana didn't have to bring him in.

valkyrie 09-18-2004 11:49 PM

True, but Ivana would've probably been fired if she hadn't brought in Bradford. Maybe he would've fired Stacy, but I think it's more likely that she's the type he'd give another chance.

kappaloo 09-19-2004 12:31 AM

I really saw it as a case of "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". Bradford gave up a chance to stay in the game with the hope it would help him stay in the game later on. Trump obviously feel that in business you take every chance you can get to move onwards and upwards.

AznSAE 09-20-2004 12:24 PM

i have a feeling this season's winner will be a girl.

MysticCat 09-20-2004 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by LauGh A Lot
thanks for the info! i didn't know that! i'll restate my sentance:
"look at trump, he's the epitome of cockiness and yet he's still a billionare."

True. The difference is Trump doesn't let his cockiness impair his judgment -- or perhaps more to the point (and maybe even more accurately), he doesn't want anyone running one of his companies whose cockiness will impair his judgment.

Cockiness, or perhaps better stated, self-assurance can be a huge asset in the business world. But it's not an asset if it keeps you from making good decisions, especially when the decisions are big ones.

Simply put, Bradford let his cockiness, his certainty that he would never be fired, blow the job interview.

Rudey 09-20-2004 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
True. The difference is Trump doesn't let his cockiness impair his judgment -- or perhaps more to the point (and maybe even more accurately), he doesn't want anyone running one of his companies whose cockiness will impair his judgment.

Cockiness, or perhaps better stated, self-assurance can be a huge asset in the business world. But it's not an asset if it keeps you from making good decisions, especially when the decisions are big ones.

Simply put, Bradford let his cockiness, his certainty that he would never be fired, blow the job interview.

Are you kidding???

Trump doesn't let cockiness impair his judgement? The guy is a total joke. The reason he is doing this show is because he has lost so much money.

-Rudey

Schmeer 09-21-2004 09:39 AM

I totally don't think the guy putting himself on the line and going into the boardroom was stupid at all. He had confideness. Yes, he was a little cocky, but he probably didn't think that STUPID Ivana would bring him in to the final boardroom! God, that infuriated me! Now everyone is totally going to hate her! That was seriously the most intense boardroom scene EVER!

jojapeach 09-21-2004 09:44 AM

I had to respond...
 
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Originally posted by Schmeer
Yes, he was a little cocky, but he probably didn't think that STUPID Ivana would bring him in to the final boardroom!
I hate her for doing it, too, but she would be even dumber than Bradford if she didn't bring him in. Bradford was the ultimate dum dum b/c he set himself up to be put in the situation. Trump said it best: "All you had to do was come in and shut up."

Again, it was stupid because I don't think anyone gets the opportunity that these 18 people got. You can't just walk up to Trump, so how often will anyone work under him to glean as much information as possible? Now, I actually think Bradford has a chance as being characterized as crazier than Sam.

LeslieAGD 09-21-2004 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Schmeer
I totally don't think the guy putting himself on the line and going into the boardroom was stupid at all. He had confideness. Yes, he was a little cocky, but he probably didn't think that STUPID Ivana would bring him in to the final boardroom! God, that infuriated me! Now everyone is totally going to hate her!
Everyone may hate her, but Ivana was smart. It was obvious that the Donald thought that Bradford was being stupid, and anyone who watched last season knows Trump wasn't going to get rid of Stacie - his drama factor - in the second episode.

MysticCat 09-21-2004 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Are you kidding???

Trump doesn't let cockiness impair his judgement? The guy is a total joke.

Which is why the complete sentence I wrote read: "The difference is Trump doesn't let his cockiness impair his judgment -- or perhaps more to the point (and maybe even more accurately), he doesn't want anyone running one of his companies whose cockiness will impair his judgment."

Put it this way -- however Trump may do things (and he has definately made some bad judgments, fueled, no doubt, by his inflated self-image, shall we say), would George and Carolyn still be around if they pulled a Bradford?

Maybe its as simple as Trump's ego doesn't want the competition. Whatever, Bradford desreved to go. Ivana does, too, and I doubt it will be long for her. Trump apparently said as much in the "extra boardroom footage" that aired Saturday night.

AXO_MOM_3 09-23-2004 10:18 PM

Okay - I missed who was voted out cause I had to see the end of CSI. Who went home? Pm me if you don't want to spoil it for our west coast friends! Thanks!

Rudey 09-24-2004 12:45 AM

The woman who worked at Goldman Sachs...the one who made fun of the kids' haircuts...

Let's just say she was in huge trouble for joining a company after Goldman, and running a competitor to the company while stealing tons of intellectual property and resources.

But that's just what I've heard...

-Rudey
--You be the judge

MysticCat 09-24-2004 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
The woman who worked at Goldman Sachs...the one who made fun of the kids' haircuts...
No, that's Pamela, the one woman on Mosaic, the one who's so proud of all of her caviar knowledge -- she even knows what toast points are. :rolleyes:

Stacie, the "restaurateur" (she owns a SubWay), was the one fired. She's the one who during the first task was quizing the Magic 8-Ball. Trump fired her when everyone else said she was crazy and made them really nervous during the first task.

That scene must have been heaviliy edited, because while I might have labeled her highly annoying, I didn't see anything to warrant "crazy" or "borderline schizophrenic" or that should have made the other team members fear for their safety.

Maria and Elizabeth both dodged the bullet last night. One of them should have been the one fired.

valkyrie 09-24-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
That scene must have been heaviliy edited, because while I might have labeled her highly annoying, I didn't see anything to warrant "crazy" or "borderline schizophrenic" or that should have made the other team members fear for their safety.

I agree. She acted very odd during the 8-ball incident, but anybody who felt nervous or scared or that she was in danger because of Stacy's behavior really needs to get a clue.

I think the Donald put too much stock into what these other women said. Obviously Maria and Elizabeth were trying to save their own asses, and they all didn't like Stacy -- just because these women don't like Stacy doesn't mean that she's crazy. They were just protecting the ones they liked better.

DZGirl 09-24-2004 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I agree. She acted very odd during the 8-ball incident, but anybody who felt nervous or scared or that she was in danger because of Stacy's behavior really needs to get a clue.

I think the Donald put too much stock into what these other women said. Obviously Maria and Elizabeth were trying to save their own asses, and they all didn't like Stacy -- just because these women don't like Stacy doesn't mean that she's crazy. They were just protecting the ones they liked better.

I completely agree! I was disappointed with last night's episode because Trump put way too much trust in the opinions of the rest of the group in making his decision, rather than in performance of the task. He should have fired Stacie after the first task if that were the case. It's obvious that the rest of the group doesn't like Stacie, and that is understandable, but Stacie is not the reason they lost. Stacie does seem a bit out there, but when the women were saying that the 8-ball incident was one of the scariest moments of their lives... that just seems a bit much to me :rolleyes:

polarpi 09-24-2004 02:36 PM

I agree that Stacie should NOT have been fired last night for the "eight ball incident"...but maybe we'll get a better understanding of the boardroom by watching the additional "rerun" on Saturday with the additional 15 minutes from the boardroom.

In your opinion, if either Maria or Elizabeth were the only two who were able to go home last night, who would YOU have fired?

FeeFee 09-24-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by polarpi
I agree that Stacie should NOT have been fired last night for the "eight ball incident"...but maybe we'll get a better understanding of the boardroom by watching the additional "rerun" on Saturday with the additional 15 minutes from the boardroom.

In your opinion, if either Maria or Elizabeth were the only two who were able to go home last night, who would YOU have fired?

Who was the one who caused the group to go over budget by 5K for one item??

mu_agd 09-24-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by FeeFee
Who was the one who caused the group to go over budget by 5K for one item??
maria. she didn't get a contract from the dude, she just went on his word that it would be like 1800 and it ended up being about 6000. in my opinion, she is who should have gone.


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