No, there is no conflict. I've been a Star since July of 1995 and a Delta since Spring '97. A great many of my sorors are also sisters of the Order; one sisterhood can only enhance the other (not hurt it), and both organizations are characterized by Christian principles. The only difference is that masonic fraternal organizations are MUCH deeper than greek-letter organizations. I am not undermining my Deltahood by any means-- our Sisterhood is DEEP, too! But, the roots of the Prince Hall family run back to the 1700s. My experiences with OES helped me endeavor through my intake process for DST, so I have no regrets!

PHOES
Grace Chapter #5
Martha Grand Chapter
V,MS



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QUINTESSENCE

HEY, 411 I have been looking for info on The Order Of the Eastern Star, and it does not seem as accesible as info on bglos. I was just wondering would you know of any web pages or books that i could read to find out more about this org. I would really appreciate it.

Order of the Eastern Star
 

Just a question, would anyone posting happen to be a member of the Order of the Eastern Star as well as a member of Delta Sigma Theta?
Just wondering if there may be any conflict?? Thank you.

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I am also a member of the order of easstern star since August 1996 and crossed over those burning sands of Delta Spring 1994. As Soror 411 stated, there is no conflict since both organizations are based on christian principles and beliefs. OES is much deeper, but that allows me to appreciate the beauty and strength of my life.

FAAYM
Electa Chapter #3
Mount Zion Lodge # 1

Spr 94
#20 Gamma Mu Chapter
Queen Nzinga

Thanks everyone for your replies. I am a member of the OES and washoping to get feedback regarding this issue. I am glad to hear that there seems to be no conflict.

Hey!
I know of a website with OES info. Ironically, I just spoke with the local OES chapter in my area (Bronx, NY). I was told I needed to be sponsored by a member of my family that is already a member. Unfortunately, I have trouble finding family members because they move around too much. I even have Delta's in my family but I have trouble finding them too. :-( Well the website is www.easternstar.org Well, I hope you find what you are looking for.

Bellydancer, please send me my your email address. I am in New York and will discuss becoming a member, since this is not an OES forum.

Hello, everyone...Lately the same question has been brought about being in BGLO and in secret organization like the Eastern Star's, Mason etc. My aunt is a Eastern Star, but moved to the south ...how do I find more information about Eastern Star n the Detroit, MI area?

Thank You

belly dancer,

with regards to oes, someone does have to sponsor you but it does not have to always be a relative.

Oh Cherish,

The Order of the Eastern Star is not a secret organization. Although we do have 'secrets' like BGLO's. When you think about, just about everyone knows a member of the Eastern Star or a Mason.

P.S. when I go to a chapter meeting, you can't miss me... I'm the one dressed in all -white.

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Oooooooooh! I'm telling...... Just because you are my Godsister's sands don't think I am not 'gonna jump all over you. (smile)
Your credentials are in the wrong order. ROTFL. I will email you personally because I don't wan't to get thrown off this board by the lovely moderators of this forum. Ha-ha!

AREME CHAPTER #87

QUEEN BATHSHEBA ROYAL AMARANTH COURT #1

STAR OF BETHLEHEM GRAND CHAPTER
BROOKLYN, NEW YORK

Serious question about OES and community service, we can do this by e-mail if you'd like

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hi sterling,

i, too, am an eastern star in New York.

Prince Hall #27 on 155th street in Manhattan.

Are you PH or international??



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(cheese grits, hogmahs and fatback)

MaMaBuddha
Delta Alpha/Epsilon Tau
Spring 94
the 24th Diva of Perfection

Alpha Phi Omega
Alpha Gamma Gamma
Fall '98

Order of Eastern Star
Prince Hall Affilated
Prince Hall #27

I was wondering are anything places in the Detroit,MI area. The only person I know is my aunt... and I lost contact with her.

As an AC in my chapter, I am concerned when people tell me they want to be an Eastern Star, but aren't sure about their connections, or what we do.

Some of this is upon us, but there is research out there for OES, just like there is for Delta Sigma Theta, Sorority, Inc.

I love it that women are interested in my organization, but I hold my membership in such high regard that I don't look upon any petition for membership as a given. I will be happy to help out wherever I can, and have some MBs for women interested in OES and Sororities, or just OES.

Thanks for letting me interrupt for a moment! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

New Hope Chapter #56
OES, PHA
Harmony Grand Chapter, Missouri and Jx

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I have a question to those of you who are members of OES. I have always heard that masonic organizations teach democratic and patriotic principles. I would like to know how can a conscious Black person in American be a member of such organizations. How do you separate our experiences in this country and the order? I'm not trying to be rude, but I would like to know. Thanx in advance.

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Hope,
The majority of the OES principles are spiritual. While it is reasonable to focus on the evils done to our people for over 400 years. It is better to work diligently now that the doors of 'exclusion' have been knocked down. For example, I still enter government buildings even though the flag is flying at full mast out front. Why, because there is a reason for me to enter in. I always vote, even though I know that the candidates have promised one thing and will do another, why, because so many of our people have been maimed, injured or killed to have the right to vote. Are you feeling me???

Salience(my sister),
It is our job as members of the Order to bring the necessary visions to the new Millenium. If we rededicate our chapters to benevolence and community service, we will begin to show others that our 'light' does truly shine. Honestly, there is a new 'face'to the OES, and of course, since the faces are getting younger and younger, we must be 'out' in a positive way. As AC in my chapter also, I empathize with you, for we provide the critical first impressions to a new member.

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How would one go about expressing interest in OES when the only members that you know are "sometimesy" if you will. One minute they are nice and speak and come by your room, the next see you don't speak and if you do they look at you like you dropped off of jupiter or something. I have family that are members but I don't kow them that well and do not feel comfortable talking to them about something like that since I barely know them. Also I heard that if you have a mason in your family that he could sponsor you is that true? please email me at aisha131@hotmail.com

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It is true that many members of the Order are rather tightlipped. However, that is a learned behavior from tradition.
One thing you must remember is that OES women are human first. If they are not very outgoing or friendly, the Order is not going to drastically change that. That sentiment has been expressed over and over on this forum as well.( A Delta is a human being and has good days and bad days also.)As with any group that has a formal process for membership, there are times when you really may not feeling like answering interest questions. I'm sorry that you don't feel comfortable discussing your interest with your family members. Oh and yes, a Mason from your family can sponsor you. In many jurisdictions, it is possible to vouch for a 'worthy' woman without being related to her.

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Hey, Sister!!

You are telling it like it T-I- IZ!! We are human! I used to be secretive about OES, but my sponsor is so "out" she has business cards, and hella websites!! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif I thought, shoot, I'm an officer now, I'm getting my gear on! LOL

As for membership, REALITY, a call to a relative you haven't spoken to in a while may be the icebreaker that you need. If they're really active, they will be pleased at a younger person's interest. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif


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Thanks for the clarification about Mason's. Just one thing though...the problem was not talking about OES to the girls it was just about them acting funny period. I have never mentioned anything about OES to them because of what I said before one minute they are cool and the next they act like they are doing you a favor by even looking at you. I don't even talk to them because of that....Speak or don't speak..either you like me or you don't... don't straddle the fence. Anyway my brother, grandfather, and uncle are all Masons they are not here with me they are back home in Michigan so they couldn't help me here....could they?

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This post was right on time. The informaiton you all have shared has been very helpful. Sterling, I'll be sending you an e-mail shortly. Everyone have a Blessed Day!

REALITYBLACK,
Sounds like a silly clique(you know how catty women can be)...
It actually does not matter that they don't live near you or even in the same state, they can still be referenced on your petition for membership.

Thank you very much for the information. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

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No problem.....

"look to the east..."

Hey the best thing is to find someone who is a part of the OES and then go from there. This is a very secretive organization. You juts can't just surf on the internet and find out information.
Mother Goose DST Sp99

Eastward looking..............I am sooo excited and I just had to share with everyone. I am being "healed" by a new chapter on August 15, 2000! I have been a member of the Order since February 1998, but I had decided a few months ago to move on to International Affiliation. (I was initiated by Reform Universal Affiliation...Scottish Rite)

I have finally found a chapter into which I fit perfectly! I was voted in last night and will not haveto be re-initiated...but I will take the oath again with the new initiates. I am bubbling with the thought of more service and sisters in my chapter who are in my age group. The sisters in my original chapter were and still are like History books...I love to hear them talk about the Order and I always learn new things from them...They are my Mothers. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif
But it will be nice to work with sisters who are a little younger. It makes a difference in the commroderie(sp?) of the chapter.
I am just so excited! (I know I've said that already, but it's true!)
And oh my goodness...The chapter is a virtual Pan-Hel! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Okay., I've talked enough.....Thanks for listening.

Yolanda Nicole (Rey)

NicoleRey:
Great News!

It is so important to find a chapter in which you feel most comfortable. A younger chapter tends to have fresh ideas and a certain 'energy' about them. I like to hear older sisters too. They are sooooo D-E-E-P!
I hope all goes well as you travel.....

Congratulations NicoleRey ! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

From Research I have obtained this information which I'm sure will be helpful to all of you from http://www.easternstar.com

Who may join: Only men who are Masons are eligible and only women with specific Masonic affiliation may be members. These affiliations include:

Affiliated Master Masons in good standing,
the wives
daughters
legally adopted daughters
mothers
widows
sisters
half sisters
granddaughters
stepmothers
stepdaughters
stepsisters
daughters-in-law
grandmothers
great granddaughters
nieces
mothers-in-law
sisters-in-law

and daughters of sisters or brothers of affiliated Master Masons in good standing, or if deceased were in good standing at the time of their death; each of whom shall have attained to at least the age of eighteen (18) years, are eligible to membership in the Order of the Eastern Star.

How to join: To inquire about membership, talk to a current member, or contact a local chapter. To find chapters in your area, contact the Grand Secretary of that state or province. Petitions are carefully read, eligibility investigated and election to membership must be by unanimous vote. The Order strives to select persons of mental, moral and spiritual quality who will work together in harmony to perform its objectives.

Frequently Asked Questions:
Q. Is the Order of the Eastern Star a secret society?
A. No. Secret societies are underground and hard to find. We are easily found within the community but we enjoy a distinctive means of identifying each other. Only members are allowed in a closed meeting.

Q. Can I afford membership In the Order of the Eastern Star?
A. Yes. Financial position is not considered in the Order. Members come from all economic stations of life.

Q. Is my religious faith allowed In the Order of the Eastern Star?
A. Yes. Members of all religions may belong to the Order of the Eastern Star. We only require a belief in a Supreme Being.

Q. Is the Order of' the Eastern Star time consuming?
A. After your Initiation into our Order, you may attend as your time permits.

Q. Is there any memory work?
A. There is no mandatory memory work except the means of making yourself known if you wish to visit a Chapter or if you become an officer.

Q. Is the Order patriotic and democratic?
A. Yes. Members are taught an allegiance to preserve the good of their country.

Ms. Aspiration,

I haven't received any e-mails from you lately. Hope all is well(you know what I'm talking about)
Smooches...

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Sterling,
All is well. You should have e-mail soon. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif

Bringing this back to the top
 

Before GC went down a member of GC was interested in finding some of her OES sisters. This is the thread that I was directing her to as well as anyone else who wants to know.

I just wanted to say hello to all my Sistars out there! I am with Abigail Chapter #4 in Detroit, MI Please email and let me know where you are!

Ms. Jay

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Hello Ladies, just stopping by to see if there are any ladies in the Chattanooga, TN area who are interested in Eastern Star. The grand matron of TN has contacted me and wants me to find 6 ladies who are interested in Eastern Star to start a chapter in this area. You can live as far as Jasper, TN or further if you are up for the drive for monthly meetings, functions,etc. I am excited and would love to find 6 ladies, 7 including me to start a chapter of OES. Also, if you know of 7 men who are interested in Mason, please have them contact me as well. You can send me a private message or contact me via email as well. Please if you have any interest, contact me ASAP, because if we do this quickly, we can be initiated with the new sisters in Nashville, possibly next month.. If you have any questions, please contact me ASAP.

God Bless

I am member of OES-PHA and have been traveling since April 1995. As far as people hearing "What sisters are taught"?, "What do symbols mean"? "Are things more of a traditon and not a secret"? You can ask a member of the order these questions, BUT... she will never tell you. I gurantee it. She will only let her "Light" shine. The only way you will know is if you are initiated.

People have opinions of what Masons and Eastern Stars are about. What we do, our purpose? Whether we are "relevant"? How do you know if someone is a member"? Do we worship the Devil"?:mad: WT? All kinds of "Foolishness"!!! For anyone who wants to "See the Light"... please don't ask an Eastern Star or a Mason that.

I'm not concerned at all with people who have these views because if it truly did not matter to them, why ask? You concern yourself with things that you care about. If it is meant for you to know... you will find out when the time comes.;)

my run down
 

i am an OEE member here in So Cal. I joined when i was 18 in 1988.
I am a Job's Daughter since 1982
I am a Beta Sigma Phi since 1994
I am also an Alpha Phi Omega member joined in 1995

Most of all I am an ALPHA PHI! :)


Laura:D

correction
 

Sorry i meant to type OES member since 1988. i am typing challanged :)

Also to boost about...
 

My mother and my grand mother were both Past Matrons and i have masons and TONS of OES memebrs thru out my family tree

Just wanted to chime in and say greetings to all my brothers and sister out there travelling in the light. Keep up the good work. Holla back.