Could the best college football team....
 

Win in a game against the WORST NFL team?

We've been having this discussion. I say NO. To me, it's still men against boys. I mean, it would be NICE to see USC rip all over the Chargers, but I mean, it would never happen. LT would run ALL OVER that USC D.

Boy I just opened up a can of worms...

No. They would get killed unless Rich Kotite was the coaching the NFL team.

Just as unlikely as the best HS football team beating the Worst D-IA team.

Still a very wide gap b/w the two.

There are plenty of USC players starting that will never be NFL starters.

Even I will say its unlikely. Its a different game in the NFL and college players are still kids.

I think its possible, but quite unlikely.

Now Oklahoma against the Chargers....







kidding.. I'm not that much of a homer ;)

HA HA That was funny. :D Could it be? We're AGREEING w each other today (mostly)? ;)

Let's widen the stakes...

Could an All Star team of the best college players in any given year beat a bad NFL team?

Maybe. Even that might be a stretch.

I don't think so - there are some college guys who put up great numbers who couldn't cut it in the NFL. A lot has to do with quality of competition.

Agree. Although there might be a year here and there where there is an abundance of real quality college "stars."

But, as has been pointed out, the two games are pretty different. Coaching would play a pretty big role as well.

True - maybe last year, with guys like Mike Williams, Manning, etc. More NFL ready players than in past years.

It's a Kodak moment ;)

Nah, even a superstar team in my opinion would get their asses handed to them. I think the difference would be at the lines. Those NFL vets are too much bigger and too much stronger.

Did anyone watch the Browns preseason game where some unknown DL player just completely ABUSED the Kellen Winslow II? It'd go something like that.

No, not even close. I mean star players in college take a crap in the nfl there first few years. NFL players are far too strong

Wouldn't be a contest. The pros are all all-stars to begin with. The jump in talent and ability would be too much.

Even the worst team in the NFL are still professionals. They still have defenders that would overwhelm most college players. A team of all-stars might be able to hold their own for a quarter but certainly not for a full game. That's when you'd see the difference that being able to train year-round would make. The perfect example is how few Heisman winners do well their first year. The leap in competition is another reason why jumping from High School to the NFL is not a good idea. Can you see a 19-20 year old who think's he's invincible going against a 34 year olf 12 year veteran linebacker.... would not be pretty.

Hahaha, Morningwheg or Kotite would make things interesting.

I don't think an all-star team would beat the worst NFL team only because you have to be great to make the NFL to begin with.

I believe the one college team that might and I repeat might pull it off would be the Miami Hurricanes.....w/o Brock Berlin as the QB of course.

No...there is too much difference. Going from college ball to the league is unlike anything you can imagine. Most guys can't hack it.

What are you talking about, there are very few people that even think Miami is the best that CFB has to offer right now.

LSU vs. N.O. Saints........... who knows what the outcome would be. But, it would probably sell more tickets than the Saints have sold lately.

Well just like in most cases a large number of people would be wrong, I based my opinion on the number of players the CANES send to the next level. These players not only excel but become some of the best players in the NFL....not to mention most of them leave college early. The CANES minus a few bumps along the way (NCAA sactions of the mid ninties ) have been the premier
team in College Football for the past 20yrs...thats based on National Championships won and National Champioship games played.

oooooookkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyy . . .


See, even if the Hurricanes send 50% of their players to the NFL (which is ridiculous), and then 25% of those become starters . . . the WORST NFL team has 100% of these guys, plus more on the bench.

No college team could beat any pro team. It's f-ing ridiculous to think otherwise, b/c the talent disparity is huge - even for Miami.

Notice I stated any college team that MIGHT.....and I believe you give the level of talent on the worst NFL team too much credit. Some of those guys are just fillers and meat team projects when...when CANES players come into the league it's to start or get playing time you know too help the team not to be used as an experiment to practice against for next weeks game.

I think you give the worst NFL team too little credit. These players are pros and not simply fillers. These are teams with talented players that get dominated byteams running a better program.

I think most players that go to the NFL do it with the intent to start being CANES (broken keyboard) or not. The fact is that 99.9% of these players out of college do not and will not start.

Besides, players on the practice squad do help the team. They help to prepare with certain formations on offense and defense.

The Cardinals are the worst NFL team right now, I'll posit (them, or the Chargers) - I would take them by 21 over the CANES (STOP DOING THAT).

How many Miami players from last year are starting right now? What percentage even PLAY in the NFL (even for the worst team)?

You're not even close to on point here. Miami has a handful (ie less than 10) NFL-prospect-level players each season - the Cards have 53. Right now.

The Chargers vs. the CANES would result in approximately 900 yds for LaDanian Tomlinson. FACT! (not really)

Does the Canes third-string play in the NFL...how about most of their second-stringers? Their third-string quarterback?

The fact is that a pro team is full of just that, pros. Many of these guys were studs in college (most of them were, in fact).

The logic just doesn't fly...and not ever Canes player comes in as a star (hello Gino Toretta).

It's rather Funny that you mention Gino and forgot about the likes of Micheal Irving, Ray Lewis, Micheal Barrows, Clinton Portis, Warren Sapp, J.Shocky D.Stubbs K. Winslow S.Taylor V.Testeverde and a host of others. Bottom line it's like I stated if any college football team MIGHT have a chance it would be the CANES. Also the fact that you bring up the name of Gino Toretta proves my point some players in the league are just fillers and meat team projects remember the Great Bryan Bosworth. Whoever said that it's a fact that 99.9 % of college players don't start in the league is wrong ...3 out of the six players for the Canes that went pro after last season are going to start this year w/the other 3 projected to be starters in two years maybe sooner...like by mid season of this year.

Here's another fact:

Last year, the Hurricanes dropped 2 games. One to Virginia Tech and one to Tennessee. Neither of those teams were anywhere close to the best in college football and they still beat what you're calling "the best".

They had a few decent players. But weren't even the best team in the sport. For that, in '03, you have to go with USC, LSU or (a healthy)Oklahoma.

And another fact....Toretta was given the Heisman for the best college football player. Bosworth was a monster of a linebacker and a Heisman contender...they were arguably two of the best players in college football those seasons.

Also...six Hurricanes went pro...out of how many of their players? 50...60...? So, if about 10% of the Hurricanes are pros, and 100% of the Chargers/Cardinals/whoever are pro, I just don't see a defeat happening.

Six! hahahahahaa


OK - pro rosters are around 53 position players. Last year's 'canes team had 6 professional-grade players (one of which is a tight end who hasn't made a mark at all yet, but I digress, b/c he's A FUCKIN SOLDIER) . . . they'd get slaughtered by any professional team. They might not beat the Cardinals second-stringers, even with those 6 back.

It's simple math, jackmove.

No one is cutting on your beloved CANES - however, they didn't even beat every college team they played last year, let alone the f-ing Dolphins. No clue how you can overlook this fact.

A healthy Oklahoma...yeah right OU is the most overated team in CFB but thats neither here nor there. The CANES did lose two games last year b/c they have an UF flunky for a QB...maybe this year he will be a little better, but I still stand by my statement that if any college team have a chance it would be the CANES. I believe a better way of looking @ this would be that (6) were drafted out of 24 starters who played for Miami thats 25% in it's self plus not to mention that 60% of those 24 starters returned to Miami to play this year. By the way Toretta & Bosworth were not even close to being the best college players during their college days...they were just overated kinda like OU.

Alrighty...

Overratted? Va Tech was not even rated. Tennessee had lost several games at that point. OU lost to a VERY good K-State squad and the BCS Champion. How are you going to call Oklahoma overrated last year?

They managed to do okay with a QB who had a broken foot and wrist. Almost beat LSU if you watched the game (21-14) it was close. They lacked a good run game. As memory serves you could say the same about Miami last year. Except Miami couldn't really pass either.

I'll also go out on a limb and say no matter how good I think OU is, there's no way in hell they'd beat any NFL team. Same goes for your beloved Canes.

Just admit that your argument has zero merit and move on with your life. Please.

What argument? I'll say it again if any college team had a chance of beating an NFL team it would be the CANES....and for the record Miami would beat OU anyday of the week and twice on Sunday. Notice I said OU were overated not just last year but the year before that and the year before that.

You can say that all you want. It would seem that for you, unfortunately, the Coaches' poll and the AP Poll disagree with you here. But who knows? If Miami can make it through the season without losing to someone like Clemson, OU might get to beat y'all on your home field.

I doubt Miami even has the guns to deal with Virginia.

CANES

Now how can I compete? Reasonable arguments based on the performance of a team verses that?

If the Canes had an offense, they might be a decent team.

But they don't.

You mean those same polls that have OU rated higher then LSU? The CANES have an offense they just need a QB....as for Clemson and Va. please the CANES will be the 2004 ACC Champs!!!! and OU will once again be the overated Chumps again.



ps. As far as OU beating the CANES in the Orange Bowl ...all I can say is man quit smoking that stuff!!