A GC Hypothetical
 

Let's say that there is someone who posts on a message board, perhaps a message board just like GC. As is often the case when posting on message boards, over time she gets close to some of the other people who post there. What nobody realizes at first, however, is that her entire identity is a lie. She's a fake. She's not who she says she is -- she uses a fake name and pretends to belong to an organization when in reality she does not. She even posts fake pictures.

All is well in her pretend world for a while, but eventually people start to catch on to the lies. Her lies were pretty big and looking back on it, easily discoverable. Eventually she is "outed" and everybody finds out the truth. Some people are hurt because she lied to them for so long and they trusted her. Some people feel sorry for her, and some are angry. Nobody really understands why she created a fake internet identity and played it off for so long. Once it's all out in the open, she vanishes. I mean really, what else could she do?

But does she really vanish? Not in our little hypothetical. A mere three days after vanishing, she starts posting again on the message board, under a different name. She makes no reference to her previous identity. This time she claims to be from a different school. She's learned from her mistakes the first time and reveals much less information about herself, but again pretends to belong to an organization to which she does not in fact belong. She's much more quiet about it this time, but people can't be fooled all of the time, especially not people who have suspected that she was still around. Eventually, someone figures out that she is in fact the same person -- that the person who created an entire fake identity to use while posting on a message board and got caught actually came back and created an entirely different fake identity to post on the same message board.

What would you think of that?

That this hypothetical person with multiple identities needs some not so hypothetical help.

For those of you confused,
MULLET=IOWAHAWKEYE.

This has not been created to be dramatic or start shit...she has posted pics in the GC album, as mullet, and started this online journal with completely different pics. NEITHER OF THESE TWO GIRLS IS TRULY HER...LAST YEAR WE SAW THE REAL PIC OF HER, AND ONE OF US HAS MET HER IN REAL LIFE.

Why are you being directed to that diary? Because I POSTED THAT in my lj, on April 7th. Click here to see.

Among other things, her location in the journal is Iowa City, IA- just like IHE. Her home location is Chicago, IL (YAY NOW I CAN BE STALKED!!!)- just like IHE. Remember when she impersonated her sister? She's blond and skinny...just like whatever poor girl's pics are all over her blog. Her name isn't registered with the chapter and sorority she is so secretive of, yet told some of us. There is no way this is a mistake.

So she is impersonating at least three people, myself being one of them. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful you guys...we thought she was in the H&A, and a few of us busted her out last year the first time. She even fooled us.

YOU NEVER KNOW who is on here. It is a shame to me that this psycho has now disrespected two sororities with her ridiculous behavior. I am freaked out, and it kills me that I probably shouldn't post here anymore. I am not posting this to get attention, but to call your attention to the fact that my personal safety is in danger, and yours could be, too.


AND TO YOU, LISA : I have no idea why you've done this to me, when my only interaction with you, the first time around, was proving how hurtful and misleading your actions were on GC. YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP. I almost posted your full name, address, and phone number but then realized that would be something I learned from you. What can I do about it? Probably nothing...but you will have to deal with God in the end. And that should be absolutely terrifying.

Is this about you or Iowa Hawkeye?

Just a heads up to the Alpha Xis.
 

Mullet81 claimed to be an Alpha Xi Delta from your chapter at Indiana University.

First a Delta Zeta, then an Alpha Xi.

TEH PILLS DON'T WORK.

This is just a heads-up -- be careful who you trust on this board. So far this psycho hose beast has hurt some people I care lots about, and I have no doubt that she'll come back with another personality soon. What Big Ten schools do we not have covered on the board? Minnesota? Michigan?


I can't believe she thought she'd get away with it AGAIN.

Look what I miss when I get drunk.

People need to get off the interweb if they get caught impersonating another person. You shouldn't keep coming back for more, especially if you're hurting people in the process.

Wow. :(

A part of me feels kinda sorry for her. She must really not like her regular self if she feels the need to pretend on GC. It's not like we would care if she wasn't blonde and beautiful. There's even plenty of people who post here who are not in GLOs. What's so bad about her normal, realistic life?

But at the same time, someone who is basically a pathological liar is not really someone who should gain any of our sympathies.

ETA: I also feel really bad for the girl who is in all of her pictures... I wonder if she realizes that putting all of those out there on the Net isn't the greatest idea?

Now how do you people really know she's a fraud? Or a Pyscho? Or that it's actually her or not her? How do you know she's not who she claims to be? I'm not trying to start up a clit fight or anything, I just remember when a lot of people thought I was crazy or a pyscho or whatever they thought (some probably still do) just because I got banned and came back with different names.

Point is, this is the internet. If you choose to get close to someone on the internet and involve them in your personal life then thats your deal. Its your own fault if you get hurt. But don't sit there and start yelling out other members names and accusing them of being someone else when there's no way for sure you actually know. I remember when people on this board thought that smiley21, cashmoney and rebelsong84 were all the same person when in fact we werent. People kept going on and on about it and it caused rebelsong84 to leave GC. We were all 3 different people but because Kaley said something about liking me....a lot of people on here thought we were all the same person.

We have enough evidence to know that mullet is a fake, and some very strong evidence pointing towards the fact that mullet and IHE are the same person -- I would prefer that all y'all who are in the know stay quiet about the details of how we first started suspecting that they were the same girl because if IHE does decide to come back with a new personality, we can use the same method to keep tabs on her. If John or a mod would like to know, they can feel free to PM and I'm sure valkyrie/AXJules/whoever would be happy to elaborate.

John has been PMed and asked to do an IP search and at that point we'll know for sure.

Dude, even though you've changed your name a few times (when you were banned), you've always been pretty straight up about who you are in terms of your affiliation. You never pretended to be in an organization you weren't. You weren't taking others' GC posts and fobbing them off as your own.

Mullet/IowaHawkeye did. In other organizations' boards, a "perp" would be banned from the board automatically. Others would be notified of their behavior. It's the intarweb, sure...but lying about your Greek affiliation on a Greek board is pathetic.

:eek:

I think I'm missing something.

Obviously it's *not* cool for someone to pretend to be a part of an org. they're not a member of -- twice -- but why is everyone so stressed out over this specific case?

We've had PNMs claim to have gotten bids from orgs (but didn't), trolls who seem to have nothing better to do than cause trouble on internet boards, and GLO members who weren't.

Why not just "out" the person and leave it at that?

I guess I don't understand why tracking the IP address is necessary. Plus it sounds like it'll be difficult/impossible, depending on what ISP they're using.

Either way it doesn't matter because it has been verified.

pip pip!

Craig, I still think you are a pyscho


MEH, you came back homie!




HELL YEAH! its cuzz he's a G like that. wouldn't have it any other way.

phi phi k a

Wow.

That is all.

Bobby- You the man bro, you the man. Where've you been lately?

I'm sorry if anyone got hurt by her, but this is like going to a movie. 'Cept cheaper.

Without saying too much --

IHE has stalked GCers before and I would not be surprised if she did it again. With the majority of the trolls, they don't take their behavior beyond GC. IHE has done that multiple times, both online and off, and I think we just want to give y'all a heads-up. Furthermore, the majority of the trolls (fake PNMs, etc.) only stick around for a handful of posts, whereas IHE has stuck around GC for several years under (at least) two different personalities. I'm sure she'll do it again.

Which is funny, because if she took even half the effort that she spends maintaining these fake personalities and put it towards her real life, she'd probably be much happier overall.


At any rate, the question of whether or not IHE and mullet are one and the same has been confirmed -- as B. said.

:mad: @ sugar and spice's sig.
How dare you use and cheapen that film & actress (Clueless: Alicia Silverstone (based on Emma)) by using it here.

At any rate, the question of whether or not IHE and mullet are one and the same has been confirmed -- as B. said.There's certain information which could be obtained via court orders (it would take multiple orders to more than one party) to confirm it. That hasn't been done.

This actually happened to me and some other people once, on another Greek message board.

LONG STORY SHORT.....me and about four other people started comparing notes and realized that she was most likely pretending to be two other women and three other men!!! We blasted her out and we haven't heard from her since.

She was a pathological liar and we couldn't figure out why. But I guess that's why it's a pathology....

Have a heart :p
 

Yes but Senusret I, I'm willing to bet you didn't break out the Alicia Silverstone quotes even when things got really bad! :(

Re: Have a heart :p
 

what's the big deal with heather having clueless quotes in her signature for the past month or two? jess has one in hers, others have in theirs. it's a signature, a quote, not something to get all worked up over.

Just to point something out Dec, that quote's in her signature. It comes up in all of her posts regardless of subject unless she changes her profile.

I was just thinking about this and it's kinda odd that twice this person has had an online persona that everyone seems to like. Why would you have to pretend if people like you anyway?

tha'ts what i don't get. and not only to do it once, but when it was figured out, you do it again. it's gotta take some serious thought and planning.

There is nothing to like about the real person? Perhaps the real person has built up so much that she's been able to make an appealing and ideal person in which she knew other people would like?

I have mad pity for said person. I mean if they could actually think up this kinda stuff they could sure be creative in real life. It shouldn't be at all hard to find people to like you. But to get caught only to do it over again only days after is kind of sick. First, to plan out a new identity (or steal that of another) on top of using the pictures of another person is beyond sick. Second, to start planning for it right away shows a heartless person who would much rather seek acceptance instead of being able to admit wrongdoing. If you can lose the trust of many people only to turn around and do it again you have mad issues...

The many faces of GC!!!

Hey let's out some1! OMG like wow let's get on AOL and tlk abt it! Yeah c u in skool!
 

what's the big deal with heather having clueless quotes in her signature for the past month or two? jess has one in hers, others have in theirs. it's a signature, a quote, not something to get all worked up over.
Oh my God. It's a conspiracy :(

Just to point something out Dec, that quote's in her signature. It comes up in all of her posts regardless of subject unless she changes her profile.
I attended GC Signature's 101 already but thank you.

Re: Hey let's out some1! OMG like wow let's get on AOL and tlk abt it! Yeah c u in sk
 

Well you are bringing up a moot point...

Re: Hey let's out some1! OMG like wow let's get on AOL and tlk abt it! Yeah c u in skool!
 

hey, there's a thread that's all clueless quotes too. omg, we must be out to get you!

Cry me a River
 

hey, there's a thread that's all clueless quotes too. omg, we must be out to get you!
Like 0MG that's sick!! I have to post about you now with links to this thread and I'm gonna save the evidence too so I can tell everyone you're a stalker! I'm not g0nna tell u h0w I save it thouGh cuz if you know my methods you'll be 1 step ahead. :eek:

Re: Cry me a River
 

go ahead. have a blast.

Seriously, pip, I don't think anybody is going to back you up here. I think it's clear to anybody with more than two brain cells that they're the same person, and I would put money on the fact that mullet won't post here ever again but that within a month IHE will have a new personality on the board (or maybe we'll get another round of the oh-so-awesome "It wasn't me, it was my roommate!" story). I'm not sure why you're wasting your time defending this woman -- like I told you on LJ, you know about 1/100th of the story and to keep going off like you do makes you look really stupid to anybody who knows all of it. Some people I care about have been put through hell because of this girl, and continue to be put through hell because of her, and I would rather waste my energy on making sure they're okay than on trying to get you to change your mind.




And just to be b*tchy:

"I SO need lessons from you on how to be cool. Tell me the part about Kenny G again?"

Who said my mind was made up I just can't believe you brought Alicia into this!! :(

If you could read you'd know my mind hadn't been made up because I hadn't seen evidence. Neither had you really; but sentience was never in your arsenal.

dude, you're the one that brought Clueless and Alicia Sliverstone into this by commenting on H's signature that has been there for the past few months in every damn post she makes.

also, there is evidence. maybe we just don't feel like sharing it with the likes of you. we found stuff that clearly points to the fact that it is the same person. so if you really want to know, use your google skills and you can probably figure some stuff out too.

and don't forget everyone, board is life.

yours maybe

There is a certain cruel Greekchat irony to this story.

Aren't you girls in that loose group of friends that researched/stalked and "outed" Iowa last time? And I imagine drove her off the board?

And now you are telling us that she immediately came back and over time managed to become accepted by, and friends with, the very girls that were invovled in getting rid of her?

That she was actually considered part of the H & A and pals?

And that she may even have created a live journal based on the persona of the person who was the most militant in destroying her on Greek Chat last year?

And now you girls feel betrayed at this cruel deception?

But aren't you loosely the same group that has had members make up fake user names on GC to ridicule and be mean to other GC'ers?

And didn't some member of this same group of pals create a fake livejournal account to ridicule and mock Honeychile?

And isn't there a whole thread dedicated to how casually mean these people are?

I have no idea why the average GC'er is supposed to view mullet as being so much worse in her effect on the boards than the very group of people condemning her.

It seems more like a form of poetic justice.

We are all sitting here and wondering at her pathrology in doing this, but honestly:

How she must have laughed and laughed about this. To have become the confidante of the same people that most went after her in the past.

ITs almost like a movie.

Oh, and for the record, if she isn't an AXID, that kind of sucks, but unless there was exchange of Ritual information, it really doesn't have any serious consequences.

Gah. Which I would imagine (hope!) there wasn't. I've been on GC for a couple years and have YET to discuss ritual information on it!

I'd hope for a disussion of AXD's ritual information to go on, an AXD would have to be satisfied off board that Mullet was a sister. Besides... what could anyone possibly want to discuss ONLINE about their ritual?!

Oy vey.

James, I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post because I think it's friggin' ridiculous, and as I've pointed out, the vast majority of stuff that the "H&A" is accused of has never and will never apply to me.

But I just want to point out that the people who have been most affected by Iowa's bullshit have IN NO WAY DESERVED IT and have NEVER been involved in any of the stuff you mentioned in your post. To even insinuate that they deserved any of it honestly makes me sick to my stomach. You have no clue how much she has affected some people on this board -- no friggin' clue. And yes, that is maybe somewhat their fault -- who can you really trust on the internet, after all? But the fact that she would abuse these people's trust TWICE honestly just makes me ill.

mullet was never really a part of the core H&A -- to be honest, she was the only "member" that I never really talked to; most of us didn't talk to her much off GC -- so I'm not too upset by this . . . I liked her persona, she didn't do anything to hurt me, so mullet/IHE's effect on the board, as you said, to me was pretty nonexistent. It's her effect OFF the board (stalking, etc.) that worries me, and that's why I think this was posted on GC -- this girl is not just your average run-of-the-mill troll. It's quite clear to all of those who have interacted with her that she has mental problems.

Would you have reacted differently if it had been somebody other than the H&A that had "outed" this girl? To be completely honest with you, we anticipated that and contemplated passing the info off to somebody else not associated with us just so we would be taken more seriously, but ultimately figured that was unnecessary as people would just be concerned enough about the news that they wouldn't be swayed by its source. Apparently you managed to prove us wrong and that is an issue . . .

And James still wonders why I'm always hostile. :rolleyes: