Senioritis???
 

Re: Senioritis???
 

Our senior sisters are required to do the same activities and have the same obligations as any other sister.

Seniors are not given special treatment just because they're graduating soon. If they miss a mandatory event, the consequences are the same.

There are some chapters in my organization who do this, but not my chapter. I don't think there should be special treatment, you can't be THAT busy not to show up at mandatory events.

Seniors are still Active Members and are the ones who are looked up to. They are The Role Models of the Organization.Why not still be part of the Chapter.

Many times, Senior Year is a heck of a lot easier than Freshman Year.:D

My Senior Year, I was Married and still participated fully. My ex-wife actually enjoyed all of the events as knew all of the Brothers!

Our seniors are expected to do everything all other members are expected to do. The only exception is that often seniors are excused from Recruitment Workshops early (like if the workshop was from 10 AM - 5 PM; seniors might be dismissed at noon). Usually though, if this happens, the seniors would have to plan an execute something (recruitment fashion show; ice cream break; etc.) before they could go.

I do have my mom's old DG stuff from when she was a collegian (1969-1972) and in their rule list, seniors did all sorts of things different. They were always allowed to cut to the front of the line for meals in the house, they were excused from all mixers, they were excused from other events, and they got other special attention. It was kinda neat.

The only special treatment our seniors get is...none. When we have dinners & things like that, you go by pledge class order. I'm Fall 03 so I'm near the end. :( Oh Well. Soon I'll be in the middle. YAY!

Thanks for answering. I've heard of some groups actually letting their seniors get away with a lot more than everyone else. They are more relaxed with the rules while the rest of us still have to adhere to standards & guidelines.

Lets see at our chapter Seniors have the same duties and responsiblities as anyone else.... unless they are applying for grad school - getting a 3.3 GPA in your final year is difficult to say the least at UofT (student body average was 2.27 a couple of years ago)... so they are excused from events the week before any papers or tests, and they can be excused more if they request it.

We used to have fall formal recruitment, so when we had recruitment workshops and retreats during the previous spring, seniors were excused. Other than that, there was no special treatment. And, we couldn't just go alum early unless there were very extenuating circumstances.

With Phi Sigma Sigma even if you're a senior you still have to participate fully as a sister. We aren't allowed to change to alum status unless we graduate, go part time, leave school, or get married - so no going alum. There is an option that sisters can petition to the chapter for one semester of a chapter status but they aren't supposed to be granted that if it is their final semester at school.

I might have been misunderstood regarding the alum status. The seniors still have to participate & do everything during the fall semester & that includes formal recruitment. They MAY go alum at the end of the semester once we've had initiation & everything. That way, they have their spring to focus on whatever they feel is important. Others choose to stay throughout & go alum in the spring b/c it's not as intense b/c there is no formal recruitment in the spring. We may COB in the spring but everything is more laidback than the fall.

All mandatory events & meetings are simply that - mandatory. In some cases, it is the various "additional" events (mixers, socials, homecoming, Greek Week) where seniors may get what might be perceived as a break.

For example: Some chapters have participation point totals and members are required to attain a certain amount to be considered "in good standing". Usually on a semester bases. In some cases, class standing is worth a certain number of points and weighted such that seniors (or members with one year left) end up with more points than say a freshmen.

How this may work: For sake of discussion, let's say that a member is awarded 10 points per class year. Thus a member with four or more years to go may get 10 points; three years to go would be worth 20 points; two years gets 30 points; and one year to go (senior) 40 points.

Now to keep it simple, lets say a member needs to receive 85 out of 100 to be in good standing. And say mandatory events or activities etc. may be worth a total of 35 points. While socials etc. may be worth 5 points per event. And points may also be awarded for high GPA, past involvement, for current office holders, for past offices held, for serving on committees etc., as well as campus involvement.

So in this scenario, a senior would only need to attend two non mandatory events (total of 10 points) to reach the 85 minimum. (40 points for senior standing, 35 points for mandatory events & meetings, 10 points for two non mandatory events.)

Thus this weighted point structure allows senior members the discretion as to which *social activities* they may want to participate in, and when. And as such, and in theory, they devote more of their time to academics. All the while keeping their good standing with the GLO.

Similar concept just the point total is dropped.

We used to have something in the bylaws allowing Seniors to go alum early. That has since been removed. Now, they're the same as everyone else.

This is what I have found out so far regarding seniors going alum. I'm not sure what the protocal was until I read your post but this is what I've gathered so far.

Some of the girls that went alum in the fall actually graduated in the previous spring of 03 but they had to return to finish some classes. Long Beach allows a person to march during the commencment ceremonies even if you're a class or two short. You then have to return in the summer of fall to finish.
As for the rest, I'll bring it up when we get together next week and ask if they know what the policies or if there is something they know that I don't.
I'll update when I find out. It's better to be informed than to guess get in trouble over nothing. At the same time, it's better to catch any trouble now before it really comes down.

Just a Quesation, why should Seniors be any different??:confused:

Going Alum is something intirely different!

There is No 4-5 year trying to get a Degree for Graduation.

4 used to be the norm. 5, is becoming the norm. I did in 7!:D

Wated to Be A College Kid for a Long Time!:cool:

2 Colleges, 2 Majors, 2 Fraternities!:cool:

Last was best on all 3 counts!;)

My Organization is Still for Life! LXA, 40 years and still goimg strong!

Oh, If I had Not gotten married, I would be the oldest College Kid on Site!:D

Oh, dinner is smelling so good!:)

Back when I was a student, seniors could miss events if they had interviews or standardized tests or internships. I can count on one hand the number of seniors who abused this privilege. Most sisters made an effort to be involved. One semester about one quarter of the sisters were seniors. The only ones who were "inactive" were the nursing majors because they had to work in the hospital for so many hours at very strange times.

Oh, Job and College Related!:)

Only reasons to not be there!:rolleyes:

Sorry Still Hard Nosed on this! In For an Ounce, In For A Pound!;)

When I was a student we didn't have senior status (and ktkennyd is right - Sigma Kappa doesn't allow seniors to go alum after the first semester.) We did have a system of "privileged absenses" where girls who had accumulated enough priority points (earned through grades, offices held, and campus, community and chapter involvement) were allowed to miss a certain number of minor events each semester. It was usually most of the seniors and sometimes a couple of juniors and they were able to miss informal meetings, social issues programming and other similar things. You couldn't use more than 6 per term and you couldn't use them for ritual, formal chapter, recruitment or anything like that. I always thought that was a good way to do things. By the time we were seniors we didn't really want to sit through another etiquette workshop. I think the year after I graduated we had a chapter consultant put an end to them though - she said it was hazing. :rolleyes:

Everyone in our chapter gets 2 mental health days per semester. Not good for ritual or nat'l visits. Then this year, my senior class and I instigated the senior skip, and we ducked out on chapter meeting to go socialize together. It was right after election takeover, so no one had a position they needed to speak for at chapter. We declared it, the chapter followed. It was a great needed stress break from what was becoming hard.

To those who aren't seniors... When you've been active for four years and you see that light at the end of the tunnel it is very hard to be overly committed to your chapter. I love AST, but there was a point where I could not stand to be in the same room as my sisters. They are wonderful people, but I didn't want to spend hours upon hours at chapter dealing with issues that I would be gone for. I didn't care about fall retreat and those things. great for the chapter, but I had better stuff to do. I think that there are times when seniors need to suck it up, but then, if you don't help them somehow, you are screwing them and you lose them when they first graduate. A time you don't want them to leave with negative feelings. Essentially, i feel like there should be consideration for these women, and as you go through it, you really begin to see how tough it really is, but then it is too late to change, you are alum, you can only give your opinion... just my 2cents

It's also a little tough to get quite as excited about socials when 75% of the guys are younger than you!

...and you're engaged! We had to attend a certain percentage of social events each semester (mixers, a date party, and a semiformal or formal - which counted double). During my last semester, even though I was taking my then-fiance to our date party and formal, I still had to go to a couple of mixers to keep my percentage up. That didn't go over too well with my fiance...! But actually, it was kind of fun to hang out with my sisters and the guys, and I kept my engagement ring on so the guys knew I was "hands off".

Hm, When I go Down To The Pitt. I still Kiss and Dance With Stacey who is My Brothers Fiance and I Love Dearly!

I am an Alum, almost 40 years worth. I will be going down this week end for a Recruitment Function.

So, As a Senior, You Do not have to do anything???:(

You are The The Icons that All Of The Others Who Look Up To Be The Leaders Of Your Organization!

If you feel that way, I for one feel very sorry for you and Your Organization!:(

The Guiding Light just went out!:(

For us, it really varies by pledge class how involved the seniors are going to be.

First off, we don't have many mandatory events. Some events are termed mandatory, but little - if any- punishment is given out.

Some years, seniors are around a lot, other years not so much. When I was a freshman there were only 2 seniors living in the house (president and VP of fall semester) and we probably only really talked with about 4 others - the ones that let us party at their off campus houses. We knew of proabably another 5, but beyond that, there were probably another 6-7 that I never, ever met.

I think that my pledge class is going to still be very involved. We tended to have some of the best attendance at rush events during the summer. However, I know that there are going to be a couple of us that won't be around, and I can already name them off.

I guess you can say the expectations are lowered, but there are no special privilages.

In ADPi, all members are expected to attend chapter meetings and fulfill a set number of service projects, as well as assist with and attend a chapter-sponsored event/s for our international philanthropy, Ronald McDonald House Charities.

I was sooooo happy the last day i wore my whites, I think it will be a good 10 years before i can wear an all white outfit again...minus a wedding dress, i'll make an exception :)

oh no!!!!!!!!

I guess you can get something cute, and on sale, that will be mulit use...??? I'm always a big fan of the borrow method. :)

I think it would be honest to say that seniors levels of participation and/or expections from the chapter of the seniors vary from chapter to chapter.

I'm almost certain that there are some chapters that give more "leeway" than others with the participation levels of the senior members.

On a national level however, ADPi does have a policy that 5th year seniors may apply for Early Alum Status. I think that can only be applied to an individual if they have been active 8 full semesters, and special circumstances, but I don't remember the technical terminology of it.

Um...it's pretty hard to become an undergrad alum unless you have a very serious situation, and becomming alum is your only option. So i don't think it's easily possible for a senior to do so, just because of school. We have a "Transition Officer" for seniors and about once every couple of months the seniors have their OWN monday night meeting/get together. It is required to come to everything senior or new initiate. It is a little harder for the entire senior class to show up to everything like monday night meeting, but they still have to have a legit excuse or make up for their absence. I personally think there should be some leeway for seniors. It's a tough time and it is the rest of the chapter's obligation to keep it going because the seniors won't be there much longer.