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CSUSigEp 08-11-2004 04:51 PM

Why we shouldnt have a female president
 
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...pines_arroyo_1


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Arroyo Tells Filipino Men Not to Kiss Her

Wed Aug 11,10:17 AM ET

MANILA, Philippines - Annoyed by a stream of unwanted kisses, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo (news - web sites) warned overzealous male fans and supporters Wednesday that to avoid embarrassment they should not pucker up in her direction.

"First, show some respect. Secondly, I am conservative. I do not want to be kissed by any man but my husband," she told a town hall meeting in Laguna province, south of Manila.

Arroyo often receives kisses on both cheeks by unknown admirers in a practice known locally as "beso-beso" ("kiss-kiss").

Citing her conservative nature, Arroyo said she would only accept kisses from her husband, lawyer Jose "Mike" Miguel.

"Please, all the men in the country, so that I won't be rude to you, do not attempt to kiss me," she said.

The 57-year-old president was responding to an emcee at the meeting who joked that a man in the crowd wanted to kiss her but that he hesitated because he hadn't brushed his teeth.

Her statement was carried live on the nationwide ABS-CBN cable television.

During a visit to meet Filipino workers in Kuwait last year, one of Arroyo's female bodyguards shoved away a man who approached the president with his lips puckered and ready to plant a kiss on her cheek.

A picture of the man's foiled advance was published by many local newspapers.

The presidential palace then announced that no one should ever try to claim a smacker from Arroyo, who is always protected by her troop of bodyguards.
Yahoo news is weird sometimes. I saw this on the frontpage and then an hour later it dissappeared and I had a hard time finding it...

valkyrie 08-11-2004 04:54 PM

We shouldn't have a female president because some men act like assholes?

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-11-2004 04:55 PM

so we shouldnt have a female president because of asshole men?

As beautiful as she is, I dont think we'd have the problem of many assholes trying to kiss Elizabeth Dole if she became president (I'd vote for her- she rocks)

Rudey 08-11-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
We shouldn't have a female president because some men act like assholes?
Umm it's a custom.

-Rudey

Tom Earp 08-11-2004 05:08 PM

All I hear about from Women who come in the store, hot flashes.

What if there is a crisis on?

Lizzie Dole, good looking? Nice looking and a Southern Girl!:)

Got to love them!:cool:

Oh, Yes, Men are Perfect AssWholes!:)

What does your tool belt look like????;)

steelepike 08-11-2004 06:07 PM

we don't need a female president for more reasons than just that.

CSUSigEp 08-11-2004 07:12 PM

Men Vs. Women thread....

so if a female president gets pregnant during her presidency, is the baby technically president too?

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-11-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSUSigEp
Men Vs. Women thread....

so if a female president gets pregnant during her presidency, is the baby technically president too?

If the baby is 36 years old, then yes.

IowaStatePhiPsi 08-11-2004 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
we don't need a female president for more reasons than just that.
Do list.

valkyrie 08-11-2004 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSUSigEp
Men Vs. Women thread....

so if a female president gets pregnant during her presidency, is the baby technically president too?

Um, no. :rolleyes:

steelepike 08-11-2004 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Do list.
um no

RACooper 08-11-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
um no
Why? Scared? or can't think of any?


Personally I see no problem with a female head of state (and technically I have one ;) )... if looking for an example: the UK with Margret Thatcher (and the Queen too).

wrigley 08-11-2004 11:38 PM

As president she should have the option of saying no to kissing strange men. It may have been the custom but something tells me that's about to change.

valkyrie 08-12-2004 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by RACooper
Why? Scared? or can't think of any?

Probably both.

FHwku 08-12-2004 08:07 AM

one reason
 
i think it might cause some issues negotiating with Islaamic governments.

while stigmas attached with being a female in office would lessen with increased frequency here, it might not elsewhere. it'll funny for about .5 seconds hearing late-night talk show hosts and stooopider people blame all her mistakes on PMS or menapause or general stereotypical female behavior. but eventually, we'll think about it less, and less, and we won't have to think about it being the first woman, or african-american, or whatever in office. we'll grow accustomed to having a "first husband." but countries that declare jihaad every other day, and have religiously practiced sexual oppression for thousands of years will take it as just one more reason to hate us.

kappaloo 08-12-2004 09:17 AM

Re: one reason
 
You know, the world didn't end when Margaret Thatcher was PM.

Kevin 08-12-2004 09:59 AM

I have no problem with a female head of state. Just so long as they're not elected because they're female.

In the US, I can think of just a couple that wouldn't bug me too much. Mrs. Dole would be nice, but Condoleeza Rice could be a great President.

Shortfuse 08-12-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
I have no problem with a female head of state. Just so long as they're not elected because they're female.

In the US, I can think of just a couple that wouldn't bug me too much. Mrs. Dole would be nice, but Condoleeza Rice could be a great President.


I'm co-signing with your first statement.

Dole could be good, Rice, the jury is out on her. Would like to see her on her own for once.

Rudey 08-12-2004 11:57 AM

Re: Re: one reason
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kappaloo
And Pakistan (a Muslim country) didn't attempt to invade India when they had a female PM.
Yes because Pakistan attempted to invade India and prior and after that corrupt woman, everything was peachy keen with India.

-Rudey

steelepike 08-12-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Why? Scared? or can't think of any?


Personally I see no problem with a female head of state (and technically I have one ;) )... if looking for an example: the UK with Margret Thatcher (and the Queen too).

no i just didn't want to start a war of words that i really don't care to get into.


i don't think we should have a female president cause i have yet to see one worth giving my vote to. thats why don't, jump all over me and think i am an idiot, cause I am not.

Shortfuse 08-12-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
no i just didn't want to start a war of words that i really don't care to get into.


i don't think we should have a female president cause i have yet to see one worth giving my vote to. thats why don't, jump all over me and think i am an idiot, cause I am not.


INteresting, and maybe it's true that there isnt' one worth giving your vote to (that you know of) but can you say that possibility that somewhere in the next 10-15 years one could emerge?

honeychile 08-12-2004 01:45 PM

One of the last litmus tests I would use to decide for whom to vote would be which restroom he or she uses.

I'd seriously consider voting for Elizabeth Dole OR Condalezza Rice, even volunteered for the short Dole Presidential run a few years ago.

The1calledTKE 08-12-2004 01:47 PM

We need another Clinton in office. Lets go Hillary. ;) :p

CSUSigEp 08-12-2004 01:50 PM

To be nice, Im just going to say that theres no woman I would vote for NOW.

KSigkid 08-12-2004 02:26 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with a woman head of state - but like ktsnake said, I would have a problem if she was elected heavily on the basis of being female.

PhiPsiRuss 08-12-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by The1calledTKE
We need another Clinton in office. Lets go Hillary. ;) :p
I'll pay for airplane ticket to send her to Georgia. Then we'll both be happy.

The1calledTKE 08-12-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
I'll pay for airplane ticket to send her to Georgia. Then we'll both be happy.
Thats fine with me she could probably do better than Saxby or Sonny Purdue.

Kevin 08-12-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shortfuse
INteresting, and maybe it's true that there isnt' one worth giving your vote to (that you know of) but can you say that possibility that somewhere in the next 10-15 years one could emerge?
Not worth giving your vote to..

Weren't most Dems saying that about Kerry before the Dean screaming fits?

Perceptions can change with time. The thing is that thus far, no woman has really been marketed well for that top job. And it's all about marketing these days.

Rudey 08-12-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
I'll pay for airplane ticket to send her to Georgia. Then we'll both be happy.
I would pay to upgrade her to first class.

-Rudey

steelepike 08-12-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shortfuse
INteresting, and maybe it's true that there isnt' one worth giving your vote to (that you know of) but can you say that possibility that somewhere in the next 10-15 years one could emerge?

well i guess i will be open to this but she better be a damn good one or else she will be in more hot water than any president ever, thats a reason i don't think we should have one, her entire term would be under the worst microscope. she could be the best president ever and the media would destroy her.

Shortfuse 08-12-2004 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
well i guess i will be open to this but she better be a damn good one or else she will be in more hot water than any president ever, thats a reason i don't think we should have one, her entire term would be under the worst microscope. she could be the best president ever and the media would destroy her.
Good point. But it's just like having a black (male) president. He be under that same microscope.

kappaloo 08-12-2004 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by steelepike
well i guess i will be open to this but she better be a damn good one or else she will be in more hot water than any president ever, thats a reason i don't think we should have one, her entire term would be under the worst microscope. she could be the best president ever and the media would destroy her.
That's why it's really important the first minority head of state has to be elected for who they are not what they are. Someone worthy of being head of state will withstand whatever criticism comes their way.

NickLc24 08-13-2004 12:49 PM

I don't see anything wrong with a female President and Commander-in-Chief. Yes, the transition would be strange. The people who say there should never be a female President are no better than those who say African-Americans should not hold the top office.

While you guys sit here and whine about women doing this, open your eyes. There are all-female aircrews flying combat support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last time I checked, the Taliban supported the 'females can't do anything' theory.

Just my two cents, have a good one.

Shortfuse 08-14-2004 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NickLc24
I don't see anything wrong with a female President and Commander-in-Chief. Yes, the transition would be strange. The people who say there should never be a female President are no better than those who say African-Americans should not hold the top office.

While you guys sit here and whine about women doing this, open your eyes. There are all-female aircrews flying combat support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last time I checked, the Taliban supported the 'females can't do anything' theory.

Just my two cents, have a good one.

Don't forget, women have been raising kids for a long time now. If a woman can handle the buisness affairs of a home, why not the country?

Glitterkitty 08-14-2004 09:00 AM

We've already had a woman president-Hillary. ;)

And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.

NickLc24 08-14-2004 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Glitterkitty
We've already had a woman president-Hillary. ;)

And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.

Hillary couldn't even manage her husband, what makes you think she would be a better candidate than Bush or Kerry? ;)

James 08-14-2004 11:17 AM

My only problem with Condoleeza Rice is that she is an academic. I am starting to wonder more and more whether a lot of our upper level staff posiitons should be given to people that primarily academics.

As far as a woman president, I would be fine with that unless she had adopted too many male characteristics. Women in business that act more like a man than a woman in their mannerisms make my skin crawl a little.

PhiPsiRuss 08-14-2004 07:40 PM

Edith Wilson
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Glitterkitty
We've already had a woman president-Hillary. ;)

And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.

Uh, no. Hillary Clinton, in no way, shape, or form, functioned as the President.

There was one, however, who came close to doing so. At the end of Woodrow Wilson's (FKY from UVa and Johns Hopkins) presidency, he was in such poor health, that Edith Wilson is considered to have assumed a large part of the role of President.

Her official White House profile is here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/fi...es/ew28-2.html

AOII*Azra-elle 08-14-2004 09:30 PM

I wouldn't mind a female president, but not Hillary or Barbara Cubin *grrr*. I agree that there isn't one I'd vote for now, but I think a woman would be very beneficial to this country! Hmmm, maybe it's time we start changing our ways....

KSigkid 08-15-2004 08:59 PM

Re: Edith Wilson
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Uh, no. Hillary Clinton, in no way, shape, or form, functioned as the President.

There was one, however, who came close to doing so. At the end of Woodrow Wilson's (FKY from UVa and Johns Hopkins) presidency, he was in such poor health, that Edith Wilson is considered to have assumed a large part of the role of President.

Her official White House profile is here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/fi...es/ew28-2.html

Ah yes, Edith...who convinced Woodrow to stay in office, even when he was FAR too sick to be a functional President. I'm not so big a fan of hers, but it's an interesting footnote in history.


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