crests
 

Could someone please help me find good sized, good quality .jpg images of the greek frats and sorors. I need them for a piece I'm doing and don't want to enlarge the ones I have because they are small and won't look nice.

You might contact NPC. I'm sure they can help.

http://home.att.net/~hpnotiqcal/purple_crest.gif
thats d phi e

and i think contacting npc would be a good idea
or maybe some greek site has them all up..

AOII does not use a crest, our founders felt our rose would stand alone to represent our ideals...just so you know, Ariesrising has our rose on her site and tomorrow I can email you one if you want one emailed to you.

http://www.geocities.com/sigmanubeta...ransparent.gif

That's Sigma Nu's.

I'm not sure where you could find a collection of NIC crests except for to just go to various NIC websites and swipe their images.

http://www.fredonia.edu/sa/sigep/images/crestTrans.gif

Sigma Phi Epsilon's crest.

Here's the Alpha Phi Omega coat of arms:

http://www.apo.org/images/secondary/..._secondary.gif

SIGMA CHI...

http://www.wlu.ca/~wwwss/greek/sigcrest.jpg

ALPHA TAU OMEGA


:) ...just in case.

Re: crests
 

Do remember, though, that most if not all of these are trademarked, and use is usually restricted to members of the respective GLOs.

Crest of Zeta Beta Tau Fraternity
http://www.zbt.org/downloads/Crest_color.jpg

TKE...
 

Tau Kappa Epsilon's Coat of Arms:


http://www.ic.sunysb.edu/Clubs/tke/GRAPHICS/COAT.GIF

http://www.rhorho.org/images/avatar/coat_of_arms.jpg

Greek licensing
 

Dear Calixta:

We are contacting you on behalf of our Greek clients [1] because each of these organizations has contracted with us to assist them in the growth and maintenance of their respective licensing programs.

As you may know, almost all of the marks of our Greek clients are registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Any use of these marks must be administered under a license agreement with each respective Greek organization.

Our clients represent a collective market of more than 4 million Greek men and women from college campuses all over North America. Their objective in licensing is to control the quality of trademark usage and provide a diversity of licensed products at reasonable prices, with exceptional service to members, their families and friends.

We invite you to visit the "Get Licensed" section our site, www.greeklicensing.com where you can download our fact sheet and application for review. We hope you will strongly consider applying to be licensed with one or all of our Greek clients. We understand that you may have questions or concerns, and we would like to serve as a resource for you. Please feel free to contact us at any time. We look forward to receiving your response and sincerely hope to commence a successful and mutually beneficial licensing arrangement with you soon.

Please direct all questions to Affinity Marketing Consultants, Inc. at 760.734.6764.

Sincerely,
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Re: Greek licensing
 

Stop spamming.

-Rudey

I have to agree with Rudey on this point!



Unless you can prove anything, You and XXX

I am reporting this to My International HDQ!

# 1, LXA does all of the Licensing to Vendors as I am sure all Nat/Int do.


If you keep presenting yourself as such, I am sure you can and will be sued!

Have a good life! Oh, this is just my opinion and not any reflection on anyone else or any Greek Organization.!

I have contacte LXA HDQ!

I hope all Greek Organizations do the same!:)

Would love to put you out of Business, but just my thoughts and reflects none about others!

Oh, Have a Nice Day!

interesting...
 

I have never seen that one and it is very very interesting!!! I really like it!

http://www.lambdachi.org/merchandise/main.asp

Go to that page. Click on the link that says "here." I think you will find it interesting.

Why thank you!!!

I get on that Site Being a LXA Brother!:)

I did send this to Our HDQ. Maybe they will check it out for legal action!

Delet this slug for what he or it is!

I find it amazing that someone knows more about My Fraternity than I do!

He can kiss my rear, not the left side, not the right side, but right in the middle!:D

DID YOU CLICK ON THE LINK?

Lambda Chi Alpha uses Greek Licensing to license out their products.

:sighs:

D'OH!

Reading Comprehension, it's something that should be developed before getting on the internet.

First of all, I am not sure why we are volunteering our crests for someone we don't know who "need[s] them for a piece." Not to sound like a total nut job or anything, but we don't know who this person is and many of our organizations have rules about where our crest can appear.

Second, most of our organizations reserve the right to authorize the use of their name/service marks/trademarks/copyrighted materials/patents outside of Greek Licensing if someone obtains the permission of the (inter)national office in question. I don't know if the person who started this thread has persmission of anyone's national office, but we can't make any assumptions without finding out what they are doing and who they are.

Finally, Calixta, I am curious what you want the crests for and if you have the permission of the groups to use them in your "piece," whatever that may be.

What if this person isn't trying to sell something? Then do they need permission? What if it's artwork? People use insignias and logos and modify them under freedom of speech laws every day. And the funniest part? If this person wanted, they could find any seal and logo on the internet probably. It's not a secret is it?

-Rudey

Even if they aren't trying to sell something, Alpha Phi's Constitution requires everyone to get the permission of Alpha Phi International before using our symbols, name, marks, etc.

Someone who uses a copyrighted work in a reasonable manner without the copyright owners' consent may have a defense of "Fair Use." The doctrine of fair use is an equitable rule of reason to be applied where a finding of infringement would either be unfair or undermine "the progress of science and the useful arts." The current Copyright Act sets forth fair use in Section 107 which contains a preamble, gives examples of fair use contexts and provides four broad criteria that must all be applied to determine whether a use is "fair."

Whether parody is entitled to a wider fair use privilege than other uses has been the subject of a long, on-going debate. In one sense, a true parody is not just an ordinary taking because it is a transformative use, a form of criticism or comment, and as such, a use specifically enumerated int he preamble to Section 107. Moreover, the fair use defense is particularly important for the health of this genre because a copyright owner will seldom license a work to be satirized or ridiculed.

The four factors listed in Section 107 are applied to parody just as to any other fair use issue. The cases usually swing on amount and substantiality of the use and the market effect.

We still technically need permission from our IH to use the logo or anything else (off our international website) on anything else (for example our own chapter website).

But contrary to what DanShaver seems to think, we the individual members of our organizations do not have to be licensed in order to use our own organization's info. AND, we can even buy things from non licensed vendors..........

(yes, we had a HUGE discussion on this at our recent convention so I do know what was discussed and decided)

In other words you don't know why they need this crest, your organization can't dictate its use in every situation, and this person could most likely find this crest somewhere as it is not a guarded secret?

-Rudey

I don't doubt that organizations have rules about how their crests can be used. But rules are limited and crests are out there regardless.

-Rudey

I move this thread be deleted. Any symbols of a national GLO are trademarked, and anyone wanting them for the purpose of marketing or academic papers should go through the proper channels. If that person is a member of a GLO, their nationals can provide them with the materials they need for building web sites, putting together stationery, gifts, etc.

ETA: I say this from the perspective of someone who has worked in advertising and marketing in the past. And as was pointed out on a recent thread -I- started in the rush forum, even posting pics from other websites to GC can be considered in violation of webhosting, etc.

You got the first part correct. Read my first post where I ask why they are using the crests and whether they have permission.

Regarding whether an organization can dictate the use of its marks, you are drawing false conclusions from my post. Fair use is a DEFENSE to a copyright infringement suit. It has not always been held to be a valid defense to unauthorized use.

Yes, someone could find them somewhere online, but why make it easy when this person doesn't want to tell us what they are using the marks for or whether they have permission? Why can't we ask questions before we hand out information? Like I said before a lot of orgs have rules about where crests can be used.

Actually how was I not right since I didn't use an absolute statement?

-Rudey

I move to second this motion.

Move to table indefiently!

Suggest each Member contact thier Hdq as I have done!

Just cause sam sausauge says so dont make it true!

Ta Da!

Yes GeekP I did check that link, thank you very much. I also sent it To My HDQ!

Now, why dont you check Your own Hdq to see if true.

My Rectum is to small for large heads. I will take care of LXA, You take care of yours. What is it again? What a shame, I know some very Nice Ladies from Yours.

I will become nice when you do!:D

You may now climb off of Me, Carnation, and anyothers that disagree with you! Oh, Do You want old posts Brought up???

Have a quality!;)

I know it's important to make sure each of our respective GLO's don't get into 'trouble' with misuse of a crest/logo....

but this is public information. Crests/coats of arms can be found on almost any GLO website; maybe we are making it easier for this person but if they are determined they will find these images eventually. If something harmful comes from whatever this person creates, I'm sure they will receive proper consequences.

In two words: JUST RELAX

GC can get so uptight sometimes it makes me constipated. :p

Ditto. When I get like that some fiber usually does the trick.

Nock it up,

oh, maybe it is knock it out!:D

Just do what it was suggested, post the link and ask questions. Jeeze, just ask your Hdq. Just that some person posts on GC does not malke Him Right.

Oh just love when GeekyPenguin suggested I check My Own Site, Wow, that is a little presumptious.

As soon as I hear From My CFO, I will Post the results. Why dont you all do the same!:)

Oh, Let us all know the results!:cool:

Again, if something violates the rules, it should be erased. This doesn't.

-Rudey

LALLALALALAA Melanie is an IO and has stated our policy quite clearly.

I'm sure the people at your EO will be delighted to deal with you and your TomFoolery, since your INTERNATIONAL HOMEPAGE links to this company.

Amen. The APO coat-of-arms I found was on the official APO website, in the public area, for anyone to see. Many chapter sites have this as well. It's not like we're also posting the meanings behind them or any other secret info.

Besides, I think it's cool to see what all the different crests/coats-of-arms look like. :)

I think I'm going to regret adding to this thread. . .

There is a difference between right-to-view and right-to-use. I notice a lot of comments on this thread that the crests are posted on the inter/national GLO websites in the public areas, so it's ok for anyone to use them. Not so.

It's my (albeit completely non-legally-trained) understanding that you do not have the right to copy graphics from any websites. (That's the beauty of links!) This would be especially true for trademarked items such as our crests, company logos, etc.

Just because anyone can view it on our inter/national website does not mean anyone can copy it and use it on their own site, paper, t-shirt, advertisement, yadda yadda yadda. . .

The law allows for many things involving your logo/seal/whatever that you wouldn't enjoy - many parodies for one.

-Rudey

You have a correct understanding. And has been pointed out earlier, "fair use" (including parody) is a defense to a legal action claiming copyright infringement. Not so sure how equally it would apply to trademark infringement, which is what unauthorized use of coats of arms would fall under.

ETA: Upon thinking about further, I'm not sure whether unauthorized use of a coat of arms would be trademark/registered mark infringement or copyright infringement (or both). Probably depends on the actual protection a GLO has obtained for its coat of arms.