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Is that Ampitheater?

Yea...many memories in that place. :cool:

BTW...did you know Sasha now lives here in the U.S. and in Sarasota?

Almost as played out as Oakenfold.

-Rudey

Is his new CD any good? I saw it this weekend and almost got it.

Yay for yuppie trance! ;) :rolleyes:

He created a good scene back when twilo was open in nyc. Long time ago.

-Rudey

I've heard of Twilo, but of course, never went. ;)

Still, I'm not sure why everyone loves trance but to each their own! :D

Me on the other hand, I'm a house-head that loves techno, two-step, and hardcore too! :cool:

Actually, Sasha is traditionally known for his progressive style....not his "yuppie" trance. And lately (the past 8 months) he's been playing more of a progressive breaks Florida flavor sound. I don't know if it has anything to do with him living here now...but I do know the people in the UK and in Europe are loving it. This week he's playing in Amersterdam and in Ibizza@ club Pacha.

As for being played out, rudey, thats like saying BB King is played out in the Blues scene. There aint no fucking way he'll ever be played out. Oakie's problem hit when he went too main stream. You don't see Sasha having his own Radio show or his own record label ( Digweed does but thats irrelevant). You don't see him giving mad interviews to everyone who'll listen, like Oakie. Hell, you don't even see Sasha making soundtracks for movies, like Oakie. True, he does make CDs...but mainly he just plays on tour. He makes $30,000+ every gig and usually plays 1-3 gigs a week.


Jenn, which CD are you talking about? I know some people that still think Air Drawn Dagger is his "new" cd.

Twilo....shame on Gulianni for shutting her down. Him and Digweed were residents there. Thats back when they were all about the deep, dark, heart pounding bass filled progressive trance that fucked you up if you were sober.



God I miss those days.

It was Involver...

Well, in that case.....Overall I felt this was a courageous move for Sasha and one that I could relate to. To be frank, while the rest of the world loved communicate that album alienated me a bit.

The sounds here are voluptous if thats possible for you to understand. Warm and thick and the layering is wonderful. The lower BPM let the music flow freely and for me really made the CD. The mixing was flawless.

Track two is beautiful, shpongle gave him alot to work with and it came out amazing. For me the last three tracks make the CD. Especially the last track, the guitar sounds are amazing and it brings a rock element that is completely synthesized and marvelous.

Overall a 4.5 or a 5. (keep in mind, though, I hear a lot of music)

Here's a little something you might want to listen to.


Enjoy. :D You're welcome.

http://kcrw.com/cgi-bin/ram_wrap.cgi?/mt/mt040705Sasha

And I don't like trance or progressive trance (or really anything progressive actually.) Regardless of what he is known for, you can pick any genre of trance and "yuppie" will describe it just fine!

Thats not saying a lot coming from a 2-step and hardcore fan. :rolleyes:

Its my favoritest club in Ybor!!!!!! Weee!

Only problem was it was a warehouse scene and if you've been in the scene for a while, that got old. People don't really understand what it was like though and I haven't been anywhere that compared to some of the places in NYC. After a while though we were chilling at places like lotus instead and in college centro fly came out and was cool. Now most of the places are played out imo.

-Rudey

I feel ya on the warehouse scene. I was down for it in like 97,98,99....but not anymore. As far as being played out...thats how life goes in this scene...places get played out really quick if you're not doing a constant makeover.

Two-step & hardcore hardly put as many people asleep as trance! And please don't think I'm referring to happy hardcore. Cheesy anthems need not apply here!

And, as previously stated, I'm really a house-head. I just have an appreciation for other genres of music. Back when I was a "raver" I loved my fair share of trance too. I just figured everyone grew out of that trance phase eventually. ;)

lmao! :D When you say two-step...you're speaking of speed garage, right? Out of all the headz I know, only 1 or 2 actually like that stuff. Every time I hear it I wish was def. If you're not referring to happy hardcore...are you then referring to hardcore speed garage?

As for the anthems, I'm all about them when I'm in the mood. Musically, they can get boring in terms of mixing and bpm's etc etc etc. But congrats on being a house head. I know Scott Henry and John Debo personally as well as Deep Dish. They're some of the most admirable DJs out there.

And no, people may stray form trance for a bit...but everyone eventually comes back. ;)

Yes, but have any of you seen "Groove"? :rolleyes: :p

I think it's important to distinguish between a scene being played out and certain types of music. The whole warehouse/electronica/glowstick/xtc thing was popular for about 8 or 9 years, but trendy in like '99. Now, you see a place like that and immediately think it's old school. Yet if I heard a number of those tracks (Oakenfold, Digweed, Sasha all included) I would consider them classics, not played out or "old".

All 3 of those guys moved towards a more pop style. That's why I say they were played out. Twilo was a warehouse essentially with really cool music and it wasn't filled with gross ravers and their jnco jeans. But the problem was that it was a scene filled with a lot of young people who didn't appreciate it and weren't there for that long. A lot of them just wanted loud music and a dark warehouse and that's it. I think sasha and digweed played there once a month or twice, I can't remember. The scene got old because the people wore on your nerves and the music got played out because it was meant to appeal to the masses and not be anything new.

-Rudey

Wow, you are so wrong. Two-step is NOT Speed Garage. And Hardcore is NOT Speed Garage. Speed Garage is AWFUL. No wonder you don't like (real) two-step like the Jungle Brothers or (real) hardcore like Delirium!!! You've never heard it before! Well, that and most people don't like hardcore anyway, but don't you worry-it sounds NOTHING like speed garage (which I would consider DJ Booth's album "Lost in San Francisco a good example of speed garage)!


And my favorite house DJ's would of course be Trevor Lamont, Matthew Bandy, Halo, Jamie Thinnes, the list could probably go on forever!

I don't consider them played out or old either, I just don't like "trancey" music. Give me some beats & I'll be happy! :)

Yo, don't try to get things mixed up in the genre lingo....that shit isnt happening here. Down here in Florida (where the real shit is) two-step is a form of speed garage. There is also another form of speed garage called hardcore and very few DJs in this country play it. I know all my genres through and through. 3 DJs that I know play two-step are DJs Yoda, Blaze and Comic. They're all nice people but their style is worse than my left nut dipped in marinara sauce. ;)

You like break beats?

Florida is where the real shit is? Wow, you better inform the rest of the United States because no one knows that but you! :)

And two-step may have originated from speed garage but it is very much its own genre of music, that sounds nothing like speed garage. Also, the hardcore I speak of is like happy hardcore without the happy-no form of speed garage whatsoever.

Not really. Especially not Florida breakbeats. ;)

[small voice] I like "poppy" trance. [/small voice]

And now I am really confused by all this. I am no expert by any means and this conversation is enlightening but I am lost. I lump basically everything into the category of "Trance" even though I know breakbeats, D&B, etc are not trance at all. And I am into the mainstream artists... because that's all I really know about. Basically I can't stand drum-machine like beats that make my eardrums want to storm out of my ear.

I guess I stay to more of the vocal trance and ambient side of trance/techno/electronica/whatever. Yes... I like the stuff that may put you to sleep. And I like mainstream artists as well. So make fun of me all you want ;) :p I like BT, Oakenfold, Tiesto, 4 Strings, and PVD, but also enjoy Rank 1, Underworld, and a few others I can't think of now. I don't know what these are all classified as but that's what you'll find in my CD collection.

So yee haw, I'm trendy and not afraid to admit it. :D ;) :p

You like what you like, you know? Some people listen to electronica to sleep to, some for dancing. My fave dj's will always be house dj's from Chicago. Most of their stuff sounds extremely dated now but I really don't care because its better to dance to than anything I've heard :)

It's a problem when someone stops innovating or doing something new and then it all sounds the same.

Don't listen to axjules because he lez'd out with dj psycho bitch like 10 times and is thinking with her heart and not her head.

-Rudey

I don't think people realize how much break beats really plays apart in American pop music. Brittney Spears, Timberlake, Madonna, Janet Jackson and even Linkin Park have all had break beat mixes in their music. There are many more people who have it in their music but those are the ones right off the top of my head. And where did breaks orignate?? Floooooooorida. Florida is the only place where you'll find this type of music coming from. And it's everywhere, you just don't realize it. There is another genre that comes from California, west coast breaks. Go buy a Simply Jeff cd and you'll know exactly what it sounds like. Yet, it's really just a knock off of Florida Breaks. Example: Simply Jeff has a song on one of his CDs called "Feel My Energy". The song was put out in like 96 but still blows a crowd up. The track was actually written by a close friend of mine who lived in G-ville when he made it and who's on the juice record label....his name is Mike B. If you're ever in Atlanta he now lives there and has a residency at the Velvet Room. My point is, Mike made the track while living in Gainseville...its total Florida Cheese and yet Simply Jeff's label put it on one of his CDs (I believe its the blue one).


Don't trash the cheese if you can't feel the funk, playa. ;)

Inform the rest of the United States? :D Girly, have you ever heard of the Winter Music Conference? Or the Ultra Music Festival? Both are known globally. Shit, even P-diddy, the Hilton sisters, Timberlake and Usher come to these events....which are held in Miami. There's a reason why both festivals originated in Florida and have been running strong for 6 years...and it aint because we have nice weather. ;) The festivals draw the worlds most talented artists and has surpassed even the Homelands and Creamfield parties of legend.

Of course I've heard of the Winter Music Conference. My best friend played there this past year (Trevor Lamont, see previous link for web site.)

And have I heard of that big drug fest/rave called Ultra? Of course I have! Every crackhead I know dreams of attending every year! And trust me, its because you have nice weather and drugs. I know its sad but its true, Ultra is a crackfest. And since they essentially happen at the same time it would be an easy choice for which one I'd attend-WMC!

And about my previous statement-all the people I personally know (that are just as knowledgeable about music as you or me) would say that the real shit is from Chicago! :D I guess its just a difference in opinions!

I definitely understand what you are saying but that music just really doesn't appeal to me. (Florida) breakbeats really isn't my thing and especially since its become more mainstream in the music of the popstars of today. Give me some Terry Mullan any day and I'll be much happier! :D

I just threw up a little.

Hey, I love me some Terry Mullan too! :cool:

lmao!! :D Ultra just isnt for crackheads. There are many people who go there that arent on drugs....just as there are people who do drugs. If you want a crack fest...have you ever been to one of the Zen Festivals? I think you call Ultra a crackfest because you probably dont remember much from when you were there and all cracked out. ;)


As for Chicago...I put it like this. Chicago invented EDM, it was made globally known in the UK and Germany and then perfected in Florida. :D

I don't know you but I'm glad that I got the feeling you were joking right there. Never been to Ultra and nor do I ever plan on going! If I'm going to be in FL at the same time as Ultra I will be at WMC!