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AKA2D '91 08-03-2004 06:19 PM

Lori Hacking- Missing Case
 
I really paid attention to this story last night. I was :eek: when I learned the husband had lied about his education etc. etc.

This lady obviously trusted this man to marry him.
When does this madness end? Before ladies get involved seriously with someone does she now have to obtain a report that has investigated his past? What happened to being TOTALLY HONEST?

Yet, someone wanted to know why folks are not bragging about being in "love". Why brag? You might end up dead! (SMH) (Heaven forbid)

Has anyone been following this?

aopirose 08-03-2004 06:24 PM

I have been sort of following it. I felt that as soon as her husband was tagged as "a person of interest" that he was the prime suspect. When I was listening to the radio yesterday, I came into the middle of the late breaking news. Did I hear them correctly in that he was formally arrented after running around outside naked?

I do admit that i need to go back and read up on it. I didn't know about the faux education.

AKA_Monet 08-03-2004 06:25 PM

Hate to say it...
 
But the girl must have been "starry eyed" when she married him thinking that he was "all that"...

It is sad that he is a psycho... But that is when you have to background check with family... See if chit lines up. It takes a lot of gloss to cover us bullisht. So, if somebody wants to do the "Usual Suspects" style of foolin' a mofo... Then that mofo expects to be caught...

I dunno. I have been minorly duped when I was about 25ish... So I have a cynical attitude about the who thing...

To tell the truth, I am wondering the same thing that Michael Savage is wondering regarding this missing person's case and covering up the Sandy Berger case... But that's just me...

AKA2D '91 08-03-2004 06:27 PM

Soror,
The family was not informed either. They are now finding out that he was a LIAR. So, if she was "starry eyed" or not, his family could not have been help to her at all.

Then what? :confused:

btb87 08-03-2004 06:44 PM

Soror 2D,

I believe it is coming to the point that you have to run a background check, medical background check, credit check, etc. And talk to folks that have known your "intended" for a minute. A family friend, relative, etc.

Why the man had to lie about being accepted into med school, I dunno. But he obviously has some problems. I just wonder how long he had been thinking about harming his wife. I understand that Lori's persona (for lack of a better word right now) had been changing at work - she had been coming in to work quiet, kind of keeping to herself, sometimes crying and not really being able to talk with anyone. I wonder if (or rather WHEN) she had noticed changes in her husband, and I also wonder if something happened to cause this change in him or what? That's the thing about lying. . . it's like a domino effect - you tell a lie to cover a lie, then at some point you run out of lies. And he had probably run out of lies and felt like he had no other option. And. . . why would you think that someone wouldn't find out about your lyin' butt sooner or later? But one thing about Lori's family - they really stood by him in all of this, even when everyone else thought he had something to do with her disappearance.

AKA2D '91 08-03-2004 06:47 PM

Med School? Shucks....
 
He lied about having an UG degree, also!

If the parents thought he had graduated from UG school, why wouldn't his wife? The family was in the dark too, so I'm sure his "friends" were as well. It seems like it's a no win situation.

:confused:

btb87 08-03-2004 07:01 PM

hijack:
Now I see where Scott Peterson studied the San Francisco Bay's currents before his wife turned up "missing". I wonder if Hacking kept up with this case?

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Steeltrap 08-03-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by btb87
hijack:
Now I see where Scott Peterson studied the San Francisco Bay's currents before his wife turned up "missing". I wonder if Hacking kept up with this case?

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Mark Hacking seems to me like Scotty Peterson Jr., as it were. Both these guys, if they did it, are utter idiots. If you don't want to be married, get a divorce. Don't kill your wives and future babypeople.:mad:

AKA_Monet 08-03-2004 07:38 PM

Lemme put it to you all like dis...

2 + 2 = 4

Nunna dat integrative, "string theory", differential, real variable calculus...

'Cuz if 2 + 2 does not = FO'...

Then a mofo gots to cut... And GTFO on outta dere...

Gwirlfriend was jus stoopid... I'm sad for her. I hope they find her... But homey was not addin' up to FO' to begin wit...

And I ain't talkin' bout her family... I'm talkin' bout his. His mama... His daddy... If he ain't got one, then I'm talkin' bout his Grandmamma--somebody that changed his dayum diapers... Dayum, his parole officer or foster family--somebody that knows the mofo and vouch for his ass...

Cuz you don't be lying that you went to Duke Med School... That's just stupid... You just don't lie like dat and ain't hooked up at the top Hospital--what University of Utah's... That's about the best you can get in Salt Lake... Believe me... Unless he was talkin' military... And you just don't lie like dat when you want to have a pension in the military...

RedefinedDiva 08-03-2004 08:19 PM

I really haven't followed it much because it hasn't been all up in your face like the Laci Peterson case. I wish that it was more visible. I have been hearing bits and pieces of it, but only recently have I been trying to keep up. It's sad that these men are lying like this. Then when they get busted or get fed up and ready to move on the next woman, they want to kill. The ULTIMATE sad thing is that they are killing their unborn children also. I am so sick on hearing about men killing their wives/girlfriends and children. :mad:

Munchkin03 08-03-2004 08:25 PM

Saddened, but not surprised. I am surprised, however, that he wasn't a suspect from jump.

Oh, and he decided to commit himself after he was running around a hotel w/ nothing but sandals. The fact that he checked himself into a hotel after his wife went missing is S-K-E-T-C-H.

And HOW is your family not going to know that you didn't graduate from college? :confused:

RedefinedDiva 08-03-2004 10:09 PM

Utah man reportedly confesses to killing wife
 
Court filing says he told 'citizen witness' he killed her as she slept

The Associated Press
Updated: 5:51 p.m. ET Aug. 3, 2004SALT LAKE CITY - The husband of a missing woman told a “reliable citizen witness” in the psychiatric ward that he killed his wife as she slept and then threw her body in a trash bin, according to a court filing.

Read the rest here

Eclipse 08-03-2004 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Munchkin03


And HOW is your family not going to know that you didn't graduate from college? :confused:

The article I read said that he was always "studying", had open books lying around the apartment, going to class, writing papers, etc. A few days before his "graduation" he got really sick and so, poor thing, he was not able to actually participate in the graduation ceremony. He did however, according to the paper, pose in his cap and gown for pictures.

He even went to NC with his wife to look for apartments for them to stay in while he was in Med School! The same article said he talked about MCAT scores, which schools he should apply to, etc. NO ONE had any reason not to believe him. Evidently his story was adding up.

It really is a sad story.

Peaches-n-Cream 08-04-2004 12:20 AM

I really cannot understand how someone can view a spouse a disposable. He threw her body in the trash bin. If you are that unhappy in your marriage, get a divorce. These stories frighten me so much. You never know what people are capable of. Rest in peace, Lori. My prayers are with her and her family.

btb87 08-04-2004 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Munchkin03
And HOW is your family not going to know that you didn't graduate from college? :confused:
It's not that hard. One semester at my community college, we had a parent come in because they had just found out (at the end of the semester) that their daughter had not attended college at all that semester. She had taken the money they gave her to pay her tuition and books (close to $1,000) and done who-knows-what with it. And now we can't give out ANY information about students without their permission, even if mom and dad are paying tuition, and even if the students are under 18.

As far as graduating, some people just want the sheepskin and don't really care about the ceremony. Maybe they thought he misplaced his diploma or something (like I did!).

DELTABRAT 08-04-2004 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eclipse
The article I read said that he was always "studying", had open books lying around the apartment, going to class, writing papers, etc. A few days before his "graduation" he got really sick and so, poor thing, he was not able to actually participate in the graduation ceremony. He did however, according to the paper, pose in his cap and gown for pictures.

He even went to NC with his wife to look for apartments for them to stay in while he was in Med School! The same article said he talked about MCAT scores, which schools he should apply to, etc. NO ONE had any reason not to believe him. Evidently his story was adding up.

It really is a sad story.

I agree. I don't think it's that hard to fake anything. We are speaking as young (er) college educated folks. I know many a people whose parents trust their very last word. I am not saying his parents are uneducated but IF by chance moms and pops haven't seen a college campus EVER or it's been 40 years since, then they may not be up on the new chit.

Think about the fact that back in the day, there was no "distance learning." If I told my mom I was in a distance learning program leading towards a JD, she doesn't know any better. Why would she check up? Same can be said for attending school out of state. How about all the folks at (was it) Southern U. that got fake degrees and transcripts? Were the parents to call the University to make sure?

Uhm...let's also not forget that a lunatic named "yelloflower" over on DST Ave. has been lying to EVERYONE for 6 years. She also lied about having graduated UG initially, remember. You'd think someone would have caught on but people believ what they want and no one wants to walk around doubting their "loved" ones.

I am sorry but I think we all think what we would have done in hindsight but truth be told, we all know people who could be lying about a number of things and may snap and kill us at the drop of a dime. Seriously.

stardusttwin 08-04-2004 01:29 PM

Sadly according to some articles I read the biggest threat to a pregnant woman is not miscarriage but her own husband/boyfriend. I don't know where they got there stats from but this isn't as random as we may think. The reality of a child scares these men into acts that most people know are reprehensible. Getting a divorce/separating isn't going to make it go away (still have child support)-they are afraid because they are no longer the center of their woman's universe and they can't share the limelight. Most times no one knew they were capable of such acts-we are not talking regular abusers-these are "regular" guys that snap when a child is on the way.

He lied (about graduating UG) and then told more lies (about applying/being accepted into medical school) and apparently the victim found out the day before she was killed which was two weeks before they were to go to their new location. I don't know why he thought killing her would keep the secret from getting out but who understands his mind process. His family is sticking behind him-I honestly don't know if I would stand behind a family member who did this.

As for faking the UG graduation-I know lots of people who tried to perp and march with the class because their family didn't know they didn't actually finish their credits. Some went back and completed the last class (or semester) others didn't and won't be found out until a transcript is needed (howmany jobs ask for transcripts that show you actually graduated?). However, my mother didn't play that - as soon as I marched off that stage she wanted to see the actual degree she had invested so much $$ into.

honeychile 08-04-2004 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I really cannot understand how someone can view a spouse a disposable. He threw her body in the trash bin. If you are that unhappy in your marriage, get a divorce. These stories frighten me so much. You never know what people are capable of. Rest in peace, Lori. My prayers are with her and her family.
Cosign.

Am I the only one who thinks this guy is more of a con man than a psycho?

AKA_Monet 08-04-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DELTABRAT
but people believ what they want and no one wants to walk around doubting their "loved" ones.
I think that is what happened to this woman in Utah...

She believed what we wanted to believe until things started not adding up for her... Things stop aligning properly. Not getting straight answers when asking direct questions... Getting the run around or roundabout answers to "yes-no" questions...

Not that I am saying folks should never lie or that folks are always honest. But some folks (as people have said here already) have lies on top of lies--nunna of which are true--so it is what you want to believe, ultimately...

Or rather, what you want to rationalize, accept and tolerate...

As far as the original question goes, what does one do when another person you have entrusted lies to you...

There is nothing that you can do. It is a matter of place and time and load. Is it a huge lie? Is a lie a lie no matter what... It is a white lie, is it a black lie--like there are colors to deception... Like is there one sin over another??? Either way, it is the lesser of two evils... It is all a matter of how far you want to stay within that "reality"...

Oh what a web we weave when we first try to deceive...

The fact is, how can one trust another individual? Blindly?

Or with life experiences, you know when someone's "pulling your leg", so you can either roll with it or walk away from it... However if you decide to roll with it, then you cannot keep bringing back up if you are not ready to wash your hands of the whole deal...

Then there are those folks who just plain live in denial...

Peaches-n-Cream 08-04-2004 09:12 PM

Lori's brother is on Larry King Live right now. I feel so sorry for him. :( He doesn't understand why her husband, Mark, felt that he had to lie to the people who loved him.

KSigkid 08-06-2004 08:05 AM

I read this morning about him telling his brothers that he killed him...there were a couple of quotes from his father explaining what he thought led to the slaying.

Just a nasty story...even his own family is saying he's guilty.

DELTABRAT 08-07-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
I think that is what happened to this woman in Utah...

She believed what we wanted to believe until things started not adding up for her... Things stop aligning properly. Not getting straight answers when asking direct questions... Getting the run around or roundabout answers to "yes-no" questions...

Not that I am saying folks should never lie or that folks are always honest. But some folks (as people have said here already) have lies on top of lies--nunna of which are true--so it is what you want to believe, ultimately...

Or rather, what you want to rationalize, accept and tolerate...

As far as the original question goes, what does one do when another person you have entrusted lies to you...

There is nothing that you can do. It is a matter of place and time and load. Is it a huge lie? Is a lie a lie no matter what... It is a white lie, is it a black lie--like there are colors to deception... Like is there one sin over another??? Either way, it is the lesser of two evils... It is all a matter of how far you want to stay within that "reality"...

Oh what a web we weave when we first try to deceive...

The fact is, how can one trust another individual? Blindly?

Or with life experiences, you know when someone's "pulling your leg", so you can either roll with it or walk away from it... However if you decide to roll with it, then you cannot keep bringing back up if you are not ready to wash your hands of the whole deal...

Then there are those folks who just plain live in denial...

I totally agree. This fool was completely psycho. I wwas reading that the Friday before she was missing, she made a few calls and then broke down at work. She was calling UNC re: her housing (student housing) and the folks couldn't find old boys name in the files. They called her back and were like "yeah., we have no Mark hacking as a registered student." She broke down and left work. Who know what happened from there. Let's also not forget that the rest of the lies came out after the missing person situation so...there is NO TELLING WHAT ELSE IS A LIE!!!!


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