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IowaStatePhiPsi 07-29-2004 02:13 PM

Bush's search for clean Cuban hookers goes awry
 
Bush's search for clean Cuban hookers goes awry
By Ashlee Vance, The Register

Cuban prostitutes have received an unwelcome compliment from President Bush courtesy of an Internet search gone wrong.

Earlier this month, Bush launched an attack against Fidel Castro and his alleged promotion of sex tourism in Cuba. Our fearless leader dug way back to a 1992 speech given by Castro to prove his case.

"The dictator welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most educated prostitutes in the world.'"

As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.


Reprinted from The Register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07...cuban_hookers/

Kevin 07-29-2004 02:17 PM

What's your point?

Rudey 07-29-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
What's your point?
His point is that Democrats have the support of escort services, hookers, and strip clubs in the upcoming election.

-Rudey

Lady Pi Phi 07-29-2004 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
What's your point?
Yeah, I have to agree with this.

However, did this kid that wrote the essay with this "quote" say in his paper that it was fictitious?

Kevin 07-29-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
His point is that Democrats have the support of escort services, hookers, and strip clubs in the upcoming election.

-Rudey

Come to think of it, I do recall that story where strip clubs were having voter registration drives to support Kerry.

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-29-2004 02:33 PM

Just posted to show how inept the Bush Admin is on research or checking facts.

Makes me wonder if this scenario occured:

2001 Bush google search: "How To Go To War"
result: student paper on reasons to invade Iraq.

Kevin 07-29-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Just posted to show how inept the Bush Admin is on research or checking facts.

Makes me wonder if this scenario occured:

2001 Bush google search: "How To Go To War"
result: student paper on reasons to invade Iraq.

What makes you think that Bush, any President, or any high ranking public or private official does his own research or fact checking? If that indeed was a mistake (which I don't see how that article proves anything), then the fault technically lies with Bush as the supervisor, but to say that "He doesn't do good research" would be inaccurate.

Rudey 07-29-2004 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Just posted to show how inept the Bush Admin is on research or checking facts.

Makes me wonder if this scenario occured:

2001 Bush google search: "How To Go To War"
result: student paper on reasons to invade Iraq.

You've made a million claims that people have shot down on here - the latest being that there is someone running against Obama and he doesn't have that much name recognition. The President has speech writers just like most politicians, you don't. Pot meet kettle.

-Rudey

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-29-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Pot meet kettle.

-Rudey

When I lie nobody dies. When Bush lies- Soldiers die. big difference.

swissmiss04 07-29-2004 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
When I lie nobody dies. When Bush lies- Soldiers die. big difference.
:rolleyes:

NickLc24 07-29-2004 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
When I lie nobody dies. When Bush lies- Soldiers die. big difference.
Yes and no. That is an unfair statement. Bush is the Commander-in-Chief. Therefore, he is in charge of the U.S. Armed Forces, the CEO so to speak. He is not involved in the detailed processes of conflict. Think: Chain of Command.

BTW, what's your point? In war, people die. Plain and simple.

Rudey 07-29-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
When I lie nobody dies. When Bush lies- Soldiers die. big difference.
Do you always have nothing to say?

Are you that uncreative that you copy other people?

And if this was about saving lives, removing a mass murderer who killed hundreds of thousands is insignificant to you huh? I guess Iraqi blood is cheap to you. Sad.

Lied? Well perhaps you should read the definition of lie.

And hey do you ever stay on track? Or perhaps you just post a bunch of BS on the web and side track every argument because your education was lacking and you realize you're embarassing yourself.

-Rudey

Kevin 07-29-2004 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
When I lie nobody dies. When Bush lies- Soldiers die. big difference.
Dictionary.com gives two definitions for lie (v):

1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.

2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

Please enlighten us as to what the 9/11 commission, etc. is unaware of. Also, please cc your response to them. I'm sure they'd love to know what Bush lied about.

DeltAlum 07-29-2004 04:08 PM

I have to say that if the President of the United States is going to say something -- or particularly quote something -- which has a negative connotation, the speech writer better have it right.

As for fault, in the long run where did that Buck stop? If the President believes it and says it, he has just taken responsibility for it.

Blame the speech writer if you want, but this kind of thing could have serious consequences and it all comes back to the President, who the scribe works for after all.

Kevin 07-29-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
I have to say that if the President of the United States is going to say something -- or particularly quote something -- which has a negative connotation, the speech writer better have it right.

As for fault, in the long run where did that Buck stop? If the President believes it and says it, he has just taken responsibility for it.

Blame the speech writer if you want, but this kind of thing could have serious consequences and it all comes back to the President, who the scribe works for after all.

I think the fact checkers might have been more rigorous if it were something other than slamming Castro in front of Cuban refugees.

IowaStatePhiPsi 07-29-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Dictionary.com gives two definitions for lie (v):

1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.

2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

Please enlighten us as to what the 9/11 commission, etc. is unaware of. Also, please cc your response to them. I'm sure they'd love to know what Bush lied about.

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."
Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003

Not True
UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

Not True
The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.

"Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."
Bush speech to the nation – 10/7/2002

Not True
Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there
IAEA report to UN Security Council – 1/27/2003

"Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

Not True
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people
now in custody reveal that
Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida."
State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

Not True
Except for a handful of communications, to date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.

“We have also discovered through intelligence
that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."
State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

Not True
Zero Aerial Vehicles Found
Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq

Rudey 07-29-2004 04:25 PM

Hey do you have anything relevant to add?

No?

Then continue posting lies and half lies that you copy and paste from another website.

-Rudey

Quote:

Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
I can't think on my own so I copy and paste lies from other people. I have to post irrelevant things all the time. I also make claims that are just plain false, sometimes intellectually lazy, and sometimes sheer lies.

DeltAlum 07-29-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
I think the fact checkers might have been more rigorous if it were something other than slamming Castro in front of Cuban refugees.
Probably right, but since everything the President says becomes "public record" and is subject to heavy scrutiny, they've still gotta be pretty careful.


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