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AznSAE 07-27-2004 09:30 AM

Laura Bush vs Teresa Heinz
 
With politics and their husbands aside, who would you prefer?

I heard one of Teresa's speeches and just about fell asleep. Also, she looks like an old mean boss of mine. So, I got to go with Laura.

KSigkid 07-27-2004 09:39 AM

I'm more of a fan of Laura - I think she's more well-spoken than Theresa, and there's just something about Heniz-Kerry that rubs me the wrong way.

Although her "shove it" comment yesterday was absolutely priceless.

Kevin 07-27-2004 10:20 AM

All I'm going to say is that I'm glad it's not her finger that would be on the button.

Heinz-Kerry that is.

GeekyPenguin 07-27-2004 11:00 AM

I don't think Laura Bush could possibly be more boring and traditional. If she came into my shoe store she'd buy the same boring pump we've been selling for 50 years. I'll take Teresa Heinz Kerry anyday.

Rudey 07-27-2004 11:22 AM

Teresa is a fricking nutjob. Not even the Democrats dispute that. They say one of Kerry's biggest weaknesses is his wife and they've tried to get her to shutup as much as possible. Republicans love when she talks. She's not stupid; she's just a nutjob.

-Rudey

sageofages 07-27-2004 11:43 AM

Laura Bush is a gracious, polished southern lady. Her style is smooth and accommodating. She humanizes GWB, and adds a bit of traditional life to the team. But, I find she is bland and deferring to her husband.

I like Teresa Heinz-Kerry, for so many reasons. She is feisty and speaks her mind. She seems to form her own opinions and sometimes that is different than staying in step. She is refreshingly moderate as well (remember she was married to a republican for years and only left that party after it lchanged).

I like that she honored her first husband by keeping his name (only adding Kerry in the last couple years) and saying "hell yes we have a pre-nup".

OleMissGlitter 07-27-2004 11:55 AM

Laura Bush is a lady and she is poised and well-spoken. If I had to pick one to live with on a deserted island, I would pick Laura. Not only that but she was Greek and a Kappa Alpha Theta at that, and I'm sure we would have more to talk about!

Peaches-n-Cream 07-27-2004 12:01 PM

I don't really know enough about these women to make an informed decision.

Is "shove it" bad? I hear "shove it" several times a week in NY. She didn't tell him where to shove it.

Rudey 07-27-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I don't really know enough about these women to make an informed decision.

Is "shove it" bad? I hear "shove it" several times a week in NY. She didn't tell him where to shove it.

Yes shove it is that bad.

and

it's even "more bad" given the context of the many bizarre outburts she's made.

-Rudey

Cluey 07-27-2004 12:11 PM

I would definitely choose Laura Bush :)

OrigamiTulip 07-27-2004 12:15 PM

So Teresa Heinz Kerry says shove it, so what. Laura Bush killed a man, which in my book is a hell of a lot worse than snarking at a reporter.

GeekyPenguin 07-27-2004 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaRose
So Teresa Heinz Kerry says shove it, so what. Laura Bush killed a man, which in my book is a hell of a lot worse than snarking at a reporter.
(puts on Republican hat)

OH BUT THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND SHE FEELS AWFUL. :( :( :(

(takes off hat)

Now let's talk about telling a reporter to shove it versus saying "F---" on the floor of the Senate, shall we?

kappaloo 07-27-2004 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sageofages
Laura Bush is a gracious, polished southern lady. Her style is smooth and accommodating. She humanizes GWB, and adds a bit of traditional life to the team. But, I find she is bland and deferring to her husband.

I like Teresa Heinz-Kerry, for so many reasons. She is feisty and speaks her mind. She seems to form her own opinions and sometimes that is different than staying in step. She is refreshingly moderate as well (remember she was married to a republican for years and only left that party after it lchanged).

I like that she honored her first husband by keeping his name (only adding Kerry in the last couple years) and saying "hell yes we have a pre-nup".

I agree with this. Teresa Heinz-Kerry reminds me of Trudeau's wife for some reason. I just hope they don't find her up a tree smoking pot like they did with Margaret Trudeau.

I totally adore Laura Bush though. I've seen her on a couple tv shows and she's always so great.

KSigkid 07-27-2004 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaRose
So Teresa Heinz Kerry says shove it, so what. Laura Bush killed a man, which in my book is a hell of a lot worse than snarking at a reporter.
She was also 17 and, from what it sounds like, it was a car accident, as could happen to anyone of us. She ran a stop sign, yes, but from all reports it looked like she cooperated with police and did not run/hide from the accident.

Just though a little context was necessary.

ETA: I think if you're going to draw parallels, the Cheney statement on the floor would be a better parallel than a car accident.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-27-2004 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
(puts on Republican hat)

OH BUT THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND SHE FEELS AWFUL. :( :( :(

(takes off hat)

Now let's talk about telling a reporter to shove it versus saying "F---" on the floor of the Senate, shall we?

I know. The Presidential candidate's wife saying "Shove it" to a reporter who had been badgering her is mild compared to the VP saying the F word on the Senate floor.


Now that I have had some time to mull it over, I think that I prefer Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Rudey 07-27-2004 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
(puts on Republican hat)

OH BUT THAT WAS AN ACCIDENT AND SHE FEELS AWFUL. :( :( :(

(takes off hat)

Now let's talk about telling a reporter to shove it versus saying "F---" on the floor of the Senate, shall we?

Again, one was an accident that a lot of people make. The Democratic party never even brings this up because they know it's a foolish thing to bring up.

As for saying "Shove it", it's within the context of the many other things she's said. And that is why Democrats themselves are worried about her and have told Kerry to shut her up.

-Rudey

Rudey 07-27-2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I know. The Presidential candidate's wife saying "Shove it" to a reporter who had been badgering her is mild compared to the VP saying the F word on the Senate floor.


Now that I have had some time to mull it over, I think that I prefer Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Badgering her?

-Rudey

Peaches-n-Cream 07-27-2004 12:55 PM

Badgering is how it was described here and here.

Honeykiss1974 07-27-2004 01:19 PM

I prefer Laura over Teresa. Laura is more polished, refined, and gracious (as others have stated). She speaks her mind, but maintains her social grace at the same time.

I find Teresa to be a loud mouth broad that irrates me for some reason. Gosh every time I see or hear her, it reminds me of someone runniing their finger nails across a chalkboard.

Yep, its Laura.

Rudey 07-27-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Badgering is how it was described here and here.
Those papers can call it what they want. He questioned her on something she said. She walked away and then came back to tell him she knew what paper he was from, that he misrepresented her and then told him to shove it. In her interview with Katie Couric today she said she didn't know who he was (yet she knew who he was before when she said his paper) and then claimed she was misrepresented when she said "We have to turn back some of the creeping un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American tirades that are coming into some of our politics.’”

Anyway, this is really about her not being able to control what she says and not being the best voice in public. Her favorite comment of mine was when she told a 1,000 guests at a Women for Kerry breakfast "We had better get you women some birth control, there are so many of you here. "

Of course Dems have been going after Bush for the Bushism forever so this is only fair - and no matter what Heinz says to the public, the Dems have asked Theresa to shutup. They know she's a noodle. There are certain things people will have to accept. Republicans understand that Bush says stupid shit. We know that and it's annoying, but he ain't cooky like Theresa. We're also happy people don't get elected based on the stupid mistakes they make in daily speech, but we also recognize it's an embarassment that sticks. Right now Dems are trying to spin this mess and say she just speaks her mind and is trying to speak to the common people while telling her to stop causing embarassment.

-Rudey

Kevin 07-27-2004 01:32 PM

Teresa speaking to the "common people"

Love it.

Rudey 07-27-2004 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
I prefer Laura over Teresa. Laura is more polished, refined, and gracious (as others have stated). She speaks her mind, but maintains her social grace at the same time.

I find Teresa to be a loud mouth broad that irrates me for some reason. Gosh every time I see or hear her, it reminds me of someone runniing their finger nails across a chalkboard.

Yep, its Laura.

Exactly. I don't understand how Laura can be with George. He's gotta be annoying as hell. But Teresa is such an irritating woman I can see Kerry flipping out one day and saying "Listen lady, I married you for your money and, let me tell ya, I don't think the money was worth it."

-Rudey

Clockwork08 07-27-2004 02:37 PM

Teresa Hienz Kerry in a heartbeat. With her you know exactly what you gonna get, there is no act, she does not put on a face in the media. I admire that, it takes guts not to mold herself into the cookie cutter mold of politician wife. While Laura Bush is polished, it does not come off as sincere to me.

Kevin 07-27-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clockwork08
Teresa Hienz Kerry in a heartbeat. With her you know exactly what you gonna get, there is no act, she does not put on a face in the media. I admire that, it takes guts not to mold herself into the cookie cutter mold of politician wife. While Laura Bush is polished, it does not come off as sincere to me.
Yeah, she's a rebel.

Please tell me what you are smoking as I would love to partake.

KSigkid 07-27-2004 03:10 PM

Did Katie toss up softballs to Heinz in the interview today? I didn't catch it, but the past few interviews with Kerry, Edwards and their families have been so soft it's disgusting. I've lost a little bit of respect for her journalistic style after watching them. In my opinion Matt Lauer has been much better with his interview style during the campaigns.

Rudey 07-27-2004 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
Did Katie toss up softballs to Heinz in the interview today? I didn't catch it, but the past few interviews with Kerry, Edwards and their families have been so soft it's disgusting. I've lost a little bit of respect for her journalistic style after watching them. In my opinion Matt Lauer has been much better with his interview style during the campaigns.
For your viewing pleasure:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5526859/

-Rudey

DeltAlum 07-27-2004 03:23 PM

I'm sure both have their strong and weak points, but I think I'll vote for one of the husbands.

KSigkid 07-27-2004 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
For your viewing pleasure:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5526859/

-Rudey

Thanks for the link. Doesn't seem like it was as bad as the others. It sounds like it was an interview I could have made it through.

Kevin 07-27-2004 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
Did Katie toss up softballs to Heinz in the interview today? I didn't catch it, but the past few interviews with Kerry, Edwards and their families have been so soft it's disgusting. I've lost a little bit of respect for her journalistic style after watching them. In my opinion Matt Lauer has been much better with his interview style during the campaigns.
Her interviews have come off as rehearsed. Just an opportunity for the interviewee to give out the latest spin. No questions are asked as to the validity of it.

KSigkid 07-27-2004 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Her interviews have come off as rehearsed. Just an opportunity for the interviewee to give out the latest spin. No questions are asked as to the validity of it.
I really want to respect her because she worked her way up as a journalist, and I used to have a ton of respect for the way she did interviews and worked as a newswoman.

The past year or so though, I've been extremely unimpressed. There's something to say about asking the tough questions (something Lauer does more often than Katie).

Angels&Arrows 07-27-2004 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I know. The Presidential candidate's wife saying "Shove it" to a reporter who had been badgering her is mild compared to the VP saying the F word on the Senate floor.


Now that I have had some time to mull it over, I think that I prefer Teresa Heinz Kerry.

I could care less that she told a reporter to shove it... I do not know this reporter, but I can think of a few that deserve it. I do not condone our Vice President using the F word on the Senate floor... though I can think of a few Senators that deserve that too.

What does bother me is that she LIED about it initially.

I would pick Laura Bush. She is a true lady (that is only my opinion).

The1calledTKE 07-27-2004 06:02 PM

What I find so funny is the same people that are making a big deal about the"shove it" comment are the same people that said Cheney's "go fuck yourself" comment wasn't a big deal.

madmax 07-27-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
What I find so funny is the same people that are making a big deal about the"shove it" comment are the same people that said Cheney's "go fuck yourself" comment wasn't a big deal.
Kind of like you?

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...y&pagenumber=1

The1calledTKE 07-27-2004 06:14 PM

Yes I said Cheney's comment was not a big deal nor do I think Heinz Kerry's comment was either.
You did read below the article where I commented right?

Now if I had said Cheney's comment was a big deal you would have got me there.:p

Rudey 07-27-2004 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The1calledTKE
What I find so funny is the same people that are making a big deal about the"shove it" comment are the same people that said Cheney's "go fuck yourself" comment wasn't a big deal.
It's not an awful thing, but it's an embarassment. I said that.

Most importantly, it's within the context of everything else she says that makes it important. Cheney isn't an embarassment to the Republican party for constantly saying things that are looney or cursing like that.

-Rudey

DeltAlum 07-27-2004 06:30 PM

On the other hand, Ms. Kerry isn't the Vice President of the United States.

She's a candidate's wife. Laura Bush is the President's wife. While it is absolutely pointless to talk about her accident years ago, it is equally pointless (this is my opinion only) to care what a candidates wife says to an annoying reporter.

Rudey 07-27-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
On the other hand, Ms. Kerry isn't the Vice President of the United States.

She's a candidate's wife. Laura Bush is the President's wife. While it is absolutely pointless to talk about her accident years ago, it is equally pointless (this is my opinion only) to care what a candidates wife says to an annoying reporter.

Sure. Please do let the Democrats who've been trying to get her to shutup as well as the party spinmasters who've been trying to make it seem as if she speaks to the common man because of it know that.

-Rudey

sugar and spice 07-27-2004 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltAlum
On the other hand, Ms. Kerry isn't the Vice President of the United States.

She's a candidate's wife. Laura Bush is the President's wife. While it is absolutely pointless to talk about her accident years ago, it is equally pointless (this is my opinion only) to care what a candidates wife says to an annoying reporter.

Ditto.

None of these things are that important, y'all.

If I was going to make my decision based on candidate's wives, though, I'd still go with the Kerrys. It would make for a more interesting four years. I'm getting a little tired of the whole traditional first lady thing . . .

I like Laura quite a bit more than I like her husband though. But I like the twins best. And if Bush getting elected means that we get four more years of E! showing the twins flirting with Fabian Basabe, I'm all over that . . . because he is hot.

honeychile 07-27-2004 08:27 PM

For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to "know" Teresa Heinz Kerry, as the wife of your state's politician or otherwise, this picture speaks a thousand words:

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/CVN_...0725192440.jpg

And if you think that she won't look down on YOU, well, you'll learn soon enough.

GeekyPenguin 07-27-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to "know" Teresa Heinz Kerry, as the wife of your state's politician or otherwise, this picture speaks a thousand words:

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/CVN_...0725192440.jpg

And if you think that she won't look down on YOU, well, you'll learn soon enough.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You're sooo ladylike, HC. I can't imagine why Teresa would possibly look down on someone as wonderful and tactful and womanly as you.


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