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mmcat 07-25-2004 10:43 PM

utah missing jogger?
 
anyone know anything new on the missing pregnant jogger from utah? i've heard bits and pieces and the husband has been a bit erratic.
but who knows?

Jill1228 07-25-2004 10:45 PM

I can't help but think this is the Utah version of Lacie Peterson. I think the husband could have had something to do with it. I heard they found a knife in the house that had blood on it

swissmiss04 07-26-2004 12:33 AM

I personally think he checked himself in to the psych ward so that he could build a case for an insanity plea. It seems clever but it's a cheap trick that any judge or good jury will see straight through!

The fact that they found her hair in a garbage bin near the mattress store where her husband bought a mattress very soon after her disappearance/murder is also pretty damning to his case. Not to mention his lying about going to medical school and various other falsehoods. He seems a few bricks short of a load.

Things like this make me very sad. :(

Kevin 07-26-2004 09:30 AM

People go missing every day.

Why should anyone care this time more than other times? I don't want to sound insensative, but this crap taking up time on our "news" shows is ridiculous when there are American soldiers fighting in two different theaters and a presidential election underway.

TheEpitome1920 07-26-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
People go missing every day.

Why should anyone care this time more than other times? I don't want to sound insensative, but this crap taking up time on our "news" shows is ridiculous when there are American soldiers fighting in two different theaters and a presidential election underway.

Good point. But they are an attractive, White couple. And the fact that she is pregnant makes it even more urgent. I hate to say it but I think she's dead. :(

valkyrie 07-26-2004 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
Good point. But they are an attractive, White couple. And the fact that she is pregnant makes it even more urgent. I hate to say it but I think she's dead. :(
Yes, exactly. Although I do find the Lacey Peterson case interesting, the only reason we've heard about it is that she was attractive and pregnant.

honeychile 07-26-2004 02:43 PM

The news just said that luminol showed a massive amount of blood in the apartment. That doesn't look so hot....

TheEpitome1920 07-26-2004 02:46 PM

Not the luminol! Wonder why he killed her? Maybe she found out he didn't get into med school.

Kevin 07-26-2004 04:57 PM

Sicker things have happened. This stuff is tame compared to other things that go on every single day.

Peaches-n-Cream 07-26-2004 05:19 PM

This story is very sad. Terrible crimes do occur everyday, but for some reason certain crimes just seem to resonate and hold our attention as a country. There is just something so tragic about a pregnant woman being kidnapped or missing and presumed murdered.

During the time when Laci Peterson was missing, I read that the number one cause of death of pregnant women is murder by her husband or significant other. I think that these cases put attractive faces on this tragic statistic.

Kevin 07-27-2004 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
This story is very sad. Terrible crimes do occur everyday, but for some reason certain crimes just seem to resonate and hold our attention as a country. There is just something so tragic about a pregnant woman being kidnapped or missing and presumed murdered.

During the time when Laci Peterson was missing, I read that the number one cause of death of pregnant women is murder by her husband or significant other. I think that these cases put attractive faces on this tragic statistic.

This does not even hold a candle to the sick crap that goes on every day in the rest of the world -- or even the rest of the nation.

That's my point. People are more aware about Laci Peterson than the slaughters going on in someplace like Sierra Leone.

TheEpitome1920 07-27-2004 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake

That's my point. People are more aware about Laci Peterson than the slaughters going on in someplace like Sierra Leone.

That place is full of Black people, why would we care???

Kevin 07-27-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
That place is full of Black people, why would be care???
News about blacks doesn't seem to sell well. How many times do you think the same thing that happened to Laci has happened to a black woman and there was nothing but silence?

It's one of the problems with a free media. They have to sell the news. Unfortunately, the news that sells is rarely the news that matters.

DeltaSigStan 07-27-2004 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
News about blacks doesn't seem to sell well. How many times do you think the same thing that happened to Laci has happened to a black woman and there was nothing but silence?

It's one of the problems with a free media. They have to sell the news. Unfortunately, the news that sells is rarely the news that matters.

I have a better comparison:

The coverage of the abduction of Danielle Van Dam compared to the coverage of the abduction of Jahi Turner.

Never heard of Jahi? Yeah, thought so.

He's still missing, and he was abducted around the same time as Danielle.

After those first couple days, the media slowly moved on......

A cute little white girl who's parents are swingers and a murderer who liked child porn? RATINGS!!!!!!

An innocent African-American toddler living in the ghetto and his grandmother has flown across the country to find him? Naw, just another story.......

DeltaSigStan 07-27-2004 12:27 AM

Anyway, back to the topic:

Luminol's a bitch, isn't it?

Kevin 07-27-2004 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Anyway, back to the topic:

Luminol's a bitch, isn't it?

What is the moral of the story?

If you get blood on things after do someone in, the only way to get it out is bleach the shit out of everything.

DeltaSigStan 07-27-2004 12:34 AM

WRONG!

AMMONIA, not bleach

TheEpitome1920 07-27-2004 12:36 AM

Really? *trying to sum up my hours of watching Law & Order and CSI*

DeltaSigStan 07-27-2004 12:42 AM

*Sums up his hours of watching Forensic files, I, Detective and Trace EVidence...*

I'm not an expert on blood, but that's what I've gathered......bleach didn't COMPLETELY clean the blood off the crime scenes (luminol still causes the blood to react). BUT, ammonia did screw up the ability to determine who's blood it IS.

So, not a fullproof tactic, but a better one lol

TheEpitome1920 07-27-2004 12:52 AM

aaa hah! Well I tell people they need to watch these shows if they are going to committ a crime.

Kevin 07-27-2004 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
WRONG!

AMMONIA, not bleach

I stand corrected.

TheEpitome1920 07-27-2004 08:44 AM

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (CNN) -- The family of a man whose wife has been missing since last week said Monday that an attorney has been hired to represent him.

article

Kevin 07-27-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (CNN) -- The family of a man whose wife has been missing since last week said Monday that an attorney has been hired to represent him.

article

Innocent or guilty, he needs an attorney right now.

swissmiss04 07-27-2004 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Innocent or guilty, he needs an attorney right now.
The fact that he didn't already have one amazes me...

Kevin 07-27-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swissmiss04
The fact that he didn't already have one amazes me...
Could be because he was in denial. It happens.

swissmiss04 07-27-2004 11:33 PM

Could be.

honeychile 07-27-2004 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
WRONG!

AMMONIA, not bleach

*taking notes*

My best friend keeps reminding me that a good friend will listen to all your complaints about their Significant Other. Your best friend will help you hide the body. Yikes! :eek:

mmcat 07-30-2004 07:44 AM

seems to be getting closer and closer to the husband.
and he's still in the mental health clinic.

Kevin 07-30-2004 08:41 AM

Is there still news coverage of this?

swissmiss04 07-30-2004 09:09 AM

They've called off the search for her. There were something like 4000 volunteers combing the area, especially around a local dump.

TheEpitome1920 07-30-2004 09:10 AM

Do you know what led them to the dump?

swissmiss04 07-30-2004 09:42 AM

According to USA Today it was a tip given to detectives. I don't know any more than that.

chideltjen 07-30-2004 01:35 PM

I still see reports here in Sacramento. They did a report on one of the woman's old college roomies that lives in the area.

Also heard the husband is still in psych ward and blood was found in the apartment and a knife was found outside the apartment building. (Or something like that.) People were tipped off that she was in a garbage can of some sort, which may lead to the landfill searches.

And to completely change the subject but going back to the amonia/bleach debate: anyone see that episode of CSI Vegas where a surgeon killed off another doctor and his mistress in the bathroom. The killer cleaned up the blood with something and the CSIs had trouble finding out who the victim actually was because the black lights didn't pick up any blood? Anyone know what episode I'm referring to? I swear the killer used bleach... but maybe it was amonia. (Then again, it's TV so ANYTHING could have happened and not be accurate.)

cutiepatootie 07-31-2004 10:39 AM

the scary thing is i lived in SLC for about a yr when i was younger and my best friend who i roomed with called me ( she still lives there) and said have you seen the front of the apt bldg ....so i turned on and waited for news coverage......We use to live is those apts

AGDee 08-01-2004 03:22 PM

update
 
The families understand that Mark Hacking has provided information that makes it unnecessary for individuals or groups to continue the volunteer search," the written statement said.

The families' statement did not specify to whom Hacking has given new information.

From this CNN article...

Very weird. The police deny having any such information.

Dee

TheEpitome1920 08-01-2004 03:25 PM

Well it seems to me that he knows where she is and that he killed her.

AGDee 08-01-2004 03:28 PM

Agreed. But, if the family knows, then why doesn't the police?

TheEpitome1920 08-01-2004 03:37 PM

Good question. Maybe they are stalling the inevitable.

TheEpitome1920 08-02-2004 02:49 PM

SALT LAKE CITY - The husband of a pregnant woman who disappeared two weeks ago has been arrested on a charge of aggravated murder, police announced Monday.

Lori Hacking, 27, has been missing since July 19, when her husband told authorities that she failed to return from an early morning jog. Her body has not been found.


The investigation took a grim turn over the weekend when her relatives asked volunteers to stop looking for her in response to new information from Mark Hacking, and authorities said they would focus their search on a landfill.


"We believe that Mark Hacking is responsible for her disappearance and her death," Police Chief Rick Dinse said Monday.


Article

swissmiss04 08-04-2004 12:39 AM

UPDATE
 
I just saw on Salon.com that Mark Hacking just confessed to her murder. Said he stabbed her to death w/ a knife and then dumped her in a garbage bin.

This is so sad.


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