Recommendation Caution to PNM's
 

I want caution the PNM's against contacting ALL of the women from one GLO here on GC who offered to help with recommendations.

Contact them ONE AT A TIME please!!!!

I may be the only one, but I'm getting a little annoyed that I get contacted by a PNM looking for a rec, I hook the person up with someone local to them and then a day or two later I see a post from another Gamma Phi saying she was contacted by (the same PNM) and is looking for someone on GC in that area.

IF YOU CONTACT ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. IF YOU ARE GOING TO ALSO CONTACT ANOTHER GAMMA PHI THEN DON'T CONTACT ME. YOU ONLY NEED ONE PERSON FROM EACH GLO HELPING YOU. YOU DO NOT NEED A NUMBER OF US DOING THE SAME THING. We get too many requests to have multiple members doing the same thing without the others knowing about it.

Yes, yes and be aware that we do talk to each other and if you ask multiple people from the same GLO we do know it.

Thank you, sister! Everytime I get a PM for one of these I start looking for resources to contact people, and then see that somebody else has already done it. One PM to each GLO member is enough - if they haven't answered in a few weeks, then try somebody else.

I've only contacted one person for a rec so far, and I'm only looking into one NPC organization anyway. But I will definitely keep that in mind SmartBlonde! Thank you for the advice!

Jupiter, even though you may only be interested in one NPC right now, you never know what may happen. If I only looked at one NPC, I may not be a Kappa right now! :)

I second that, look at all the orgs you can and do feel free to contact the people here who have offered to help but remember you only need to contact 1 from each org to assist you with recommendations. If they can't help you, then you try someone else.

Actually Luv, I went through formal middle of my sophomore year, but did not receive any bids. However, a new NPC is colonizing on my campus this fall. That's why I'm only checking out one :). But yes, I completely agree. I'm glad I went through formal, but I was never meant to be in any of the current NPC organizations.

oooh! which one if you dont mind telling??

I think it's the new Tri-Delta colony at Elon University... good luck, Jupiter!

Thanks Luv! :D

Nuff hijacking! :p

Can we sticky this thread? Please??????????

THANK YOU!!!!

BTW - where's the original thread where people posted where they'd like to help? I need to make some modifications to my post, but I can't find it even under a search.

Go here
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=48462

I don't think we need to sticky this-- I have included all of this in the thread about recs. (The rec thread isn't even stickied) ;)

and I don't think you are a moderator in the rush forum, but hey, we're all entitled to our opinions.

I like the posts that adpiucf has made here. I think she has been very helpful to PNM's.

I appreciate your putting my in my place. Silly me for stating that these subjects were already addressed in other threads! :D

Well, OBVIOUSLY the point wasn't clear enough if I had to make a big deal about. May not annoy you but I don't have the time.

NOW...........this is MY thread so please stick to the point.

adpiucf, I'm not one of those snarky mods who like to put you in your place, but I just wanted you to know that the threads you have started in the Rush forum have been very helpful not just to PNMs, but to many other GCers as well.

I hope you continue to promote this Panhellenic spirit, and may you be an inspiration and an example to those people (mods and non-mods alike) who don't know how to be Panhellenic.

Ditto Sandy -- I appreciate all the contributions you've made to the rush forum over the past few months, and I'm sure many, many PNMs do too. I think some people on GC tend to let their egos get in the way of remembering that that's what this forum is mostly all about -- the rushees!

agreed. I think you've had some great posts and the rush forum wouldn't be as insightful without you.

Save the snotty comments, please!

I think adpiucf's threads have been awesome and really helpful. God forbid someone who isn't a moderator trying to help PNMs. :rolleyes: If you don't want to read her threads, why don't you just put her on ignore, like you've been telling the rest of us peons to do when we have a problem with someone?

Adpiucf, your panhellenic spirit makes me really proud to call you my sister. Violets to you!

AMEN to that!

SOme people need to get their panties out of a wad and relax...........it's only GC...........:rolleyes:

Yes. I really don't get the hostility at all.

I never said a thing about anyone giving PNM's advice. I just happen to think that PenguinTrax and Carnation do an excellent job of moderating this forum, and can make their own moderating decisions without input from the masses.

Um, I'm pretty sure she didn't try to make any moderating decisions. All she said was that she had included this information in another thread. Under normal circumstances, people that create a thread that is already in existence elsewhere are directed to post in the already created thread.

I have absolutely no problem with this thread, but I have a problem with people jumping all over adpiucf for attempting to help. But of course, I don't matter, since I'm just a part of the masses. :rolleyes:

I believe that threads are stickied by moderators.

I don't think the problem is that no one realizes who stickies posts.

I think the problem is no one can figure out why you'd jump in the middle of a ridiculously polite thread that was running quite nicely on its own with a nasty comment, then act like all you did was provide much-needed information to the conversation.

Well, back to the regularly scheduled thread:

I received a PM about giving a recommendation and I was a little suspicious about it because it sounded a little bit like a mass PM. So I don't think Gamma Phi was the only sorority hit with this request for a recommendation.

Another note to PNM's...

If you know an XYZ alumna, and you need an XYZ rec, ASK HER. Getting your recs from GCers should be your second option. GCers or local alums that they put you in touch with may write you a rec, but it is much harder for them than a woman who has known you/your family for years and can really vouch for your character.

Please be aware.............
 

PNM's................please do not go about emailing alumnae chapters of sororities asking for recommendations or finding out who the Advisory Board Chairman is and emailing her about recommendations(unless you know her or people--in particularly the president--of the alumnae groups PERSONALLY)!!!!!!!!

Don't forget to send a thank you to the member that wrote you the recommendation and took out time to help you.

AND -- please remember to let people know what your results were from recruitment. We want to know if you joined the greek community!

THANK YOU! I was just thinking about this yesterday! If we cared to take the time out to write the rec, at least have the courtesy to let us know where you went. You don't have to post it on here but you can at least email the person who wrote you the rec!

If you didn't go with our group, let us know, we ain't mad at cha ...it's all good!

If you dropped out of recruitment, let us know!

Just common courtesy!

And to the chapters that got the recs, at least write a Thank you note acknowledging that you received our recs!

How hard is that?

ETA: out of the recs I wrote, 2 girls never got back to me...funny they were both from the same school that never acknowledged that they received their recs! :rolleyes:

I am just wondering if the PNMs are asking for recs from people they don't know. I know with my chapter (small school, small chapter) we only pay attention to recs that are very personal. How can you write a rec for someone that you don't really know? That just seems weird to me. I wouldn't read it to my chapter.

Out of the about, oh 8-10 I wrote, I had ONE girl tell me the results...and ONE sent a thank you email. It left quite a bitter taste in my mouth, so honestly, I don't know if I want to devote my spare time to write recs anymore.

excuse my ignorence, what is a rec... ( I am assuming recomendation).... but why would you need it as a PNM

Here is a way of explaining recs and who writes them for PNMs and why:

What are Alumnae Panhellenics? Alumnae/Area/Hometown Panhellenics: These groups are community based organizations, affiliated with the National Panhellenic Conference, whose membership is composed of representative alumnae from NPC member group fraternities. These groups promote the philanthropic efforts of member organizations, promote the advantages of sorority membership, and host educational/informational sessions to promote Greek Life to women who are going to be attending a college or university. These educational/informational meetings are held at the discretion of the individual Alumnae Panhellenic, but usually take place in the spring of the year. The purpose of these meetings will inform a woman of the opportunities for Greek Life at various universities. A form will be distributed to complete and return to a designated person on that Alumna Panhellenic. This form will be made available to the sorority alumnae groups in that area by the Alumnae Panhellenic. The Alumnae Panhellenic does not guarantee that by completing the form, recommendations will be written on a woman's behalf or that a woman will be invited to particular parties during formal recruitment. This form only serves to alert the alumnae in that area that a woman has registered with the Alumnae Panhellenic and have indicated they will be participating in formal recruitment at a particular university. It is then up to an individual sorority alumnae organization to follow-up with a potential member if they need anymore information in addition to what is listed on the form.

More about Alumane Panhelenics
http://www.npcwomen.org/alumnae/a_overview.php


And here is an example from a large greek university - http://deanofstudents.utexas.edu/gle...pc_alumnae.php

The idea of recs may be a foreign concept without some context.

This website for the Fort Bend Co (Texas) Alumnae Panhellenic will give you a feel for what Recruitment is like at some southern and "quasi-southern" (for lack of a better term) universities.


http://www.fortbendpanhellenic.org/

Click on "Recruitment" at the top
Then scroll down to the "Table of Contents"
If you read through each of these in order, you will get a picture of the entirely unique culture of southern recruitment, recs, legacies, etc.

WOW!! I just spent an hour on the Fort Bend website looking at their recruitment workbook. I don't think they left anything out. It was fantastic. Everyone going through recruitment might want to take a look, even if you're not going to a big college, a "Southern" college, or a competitive recruitment. It was absolutely fabulous.

:)

I don't know why West Georgia does this but the rec. application basically only gives her name, grades, high school and activities.

It's hard to find someone to do a recommendation when you don't know where the pnm lives! At least if the parents name were given, you could narrow down possibilities.

Any other school do this?

ETA: Send an inquiry to the Greek Life Office who said to make recommendations (no pun lol) on changes we might need to help chapters know pnms better.:D