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CASIGKAP 07-14-2004 05:43 PM

God Love Barbara Walters & The View
 
In the spirit of journalism, it's wonderful to tune into a show like The View & see Alexandra Robbins milking her 15 minutes for all it's worth. To hear her misconceptions & generalizations are truly inspiring. It's also great to hear from 2 former sorority gals Joy Behar & Star Jones NOT correct or defend sororities. Finally, to hear Barbara Walters say that she is against sororities is truly amazing. This show is a load of crap.

ILLINIgirl 07-14-2004 05:54 PM

I saw it too and it made me soo mad! I wanted to get on the show and defend sororities...grrr! Also, when did Alexandra Robbins' change her hair? (I thought it was brown or at least was in the back of Pledged) I almost didn't recognize her...:rolleyes:

KellyB369 07-14-2004 05:56 PM

I didn't get to see it, but it sounds like it was all a load of crap. It's also being discussed in Entertainment... Alexandra Robbins on The View today

Kevin 07-14-2004 06:03 PM

Who owns the publishing rights to Robbins' book?

That might explain the hostesses' attitudes towards it.

I don't know anything, it's just a guess.

CASIGKAP 07-14-2004 06:03 PM

This woman has a serious grudge against sororities. What is her problem? I wish someone would do an expose on her & her pathetic attempt at sensationalistic "journalism".

CASIGKAP 07-14-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Who owns the publishing rights to Robbins' book?

That might explain the hostesses' attitudes towards it.

I don't know anything, it's just a guess.

Good question. It could turn out to be something like when Disney refused to release Michael Moore's documentary b/c it was so anti-Bush & Disney is good buddies with ABC & the Bush White House. Hmmm...

That's something to look into.

Kevin 07-14-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CASIGKAP
This woman has a serious grudge against sororities. What is her problem? I wish someone would do an expose on her & her pathetic attempt at sensationalistic "journalism".
She's not a journalist. She's an author sensationalizing a topic for a profit. And she's getting rich.

sueali 07-14-2004 06:22 PM

If you google the View you can e-mail the cast members of the show. I just left one for Barbara Walters. If you do decide to leave a message just be careful about mentioning your org.

KSUViolet06 07-14-2004 06:50 PM

Remember, guys, they ARE TV hosts and whether or not they are greek, they can't appear biased on TV , which is why they probably couldn't defend greek life the way they probably should.

adduncan 07-14-2004 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JocelynC
they can't appear biased on TV , which is why they probably couldn't defend greek life the way they probably should.
Sure they can!!! It's a magazine show! It's what they do!
Walters came right out and railed about how she's against sororities. What could possibly be more biased than that??

(see the aforementioned thread in Entertainment for further rantings. :p )

--add

ksig600 07-14-2004 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Who owns the publishing rights to Robbins' book?

That might explain the hostesses' attitudes towards it.

I don't know anything, it's just a guess.

I actually looked this up because as a journalism major, the idea that ALL media entities are owned by less than 5 major companies interests me.

"Pledged" was published by Hyperion Books, Inc. which is indeed owned by Disney-the parent company of ABC.

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/granville.shtml

The ladies on "The View" may have been passive to not anger their bosses at Disney.

CASIGKAP 07-14-2004 07:28 PM

I too sent an email to Barbara Walters. I did not put the name of Sigma Kappa on it b/c the last thing we need is another excuse to bash sororities. We get enough grief as it is.

However, I completely agree with ktsnake regarding Miss Robbins. She is NOT a journalist.

33girl 07-14-2004 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ksig600
I actually looked this up because as a journalism major, the idea that ALL media entities are owned by less than 5 major companies interests me.

"Pledged" was published by Hyperion Books, Inc. which is indeed owned by Disney-the parent company of ABC.

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/granville.shtml

The ladies on "The View" may have been passive to not anger their bosses at Disney.

This one's for you, Michael Eisner...

http://pendasrealm.com/diner/archives/asshat.jpg

tinydancer 07-14-2004 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
This one's for you, Michael Eisner...

http://pendasrealm.com/diner/archives/asshat.jpg

That had me cracking up over here!;)

Kevin 07-14-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ksig600
I actually looked this up because as a journalism major, the idea that ALL media entities are owned by less than 5 major companies interests me.

"Pledged" was published by Hyperion Books, Inc. which is indeed owned by Disney-the parent company of ABC.

http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/granville.shtml

The ladies on "The View" may have been passive to not anger their bosses at Disney.

Which explains how Robbins got booked in the first place.

Diamond Delta 07-15-2004 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CASIGKAP
Good question. It could turn out to be something like when Disney refused to release Michael Moore's documentary b/c it was so anti-Bush & Disney is good buddies with ABC & the Bush White House. Hmmm...

That's something to look into.

Perhaps Disney didn't want to release it because it is not a true documentary and falls under the category of sensationalsitic proaganda.

xo_kathy 07-15-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diamond Delta
Perhaps Disney didn't want to release it because it is not a true documentary and falls under the category of sensationalsitic proaganda.
And the book isn't?????

I'd love it if the first lady and her daughter would send an email to the View telling about their wonderful sorority experiences!!!

shadokat 07-15-2004 09:48 AM

And you all realize that it's not going away, right? From www.themovieinsider.com...

Pledged: The Secret Life of Sororities (2005)




Production Year: 2005
Cast: Jeffrey Combs, Bruce Abbott, Simon Andreu, Enrico Arque, Nico Baixas, Jason Barry and Raquel Gribler.

Screenwriter: Alexandra Robbins
Producer: John Goldwyn, Sara Colleton, Michael Menchel, Michael Prevett
Distributor: Paramount Pictures
Production Company: Relevant Entertainment,
Genres: Drama, Comedy
Theatrical Release Date: TBA, 2005
MPAA Classification: — .
Synopsis: Four women, going through their first year in a sorority house, attend rituals, go to parties, take drugs and have eating disorders.

Notes: Alexandra Robbins, the author, went undercover to investigate.

PoohsHoneyBee 07-15-2004 09:56 AM

You've got to be kidding me!

They're going to make a movie about this!

texas*princess 07-15-2004 10:08 AM

oh lordy... :rolleyes:

TheEpitome1920 07-15-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadokat
And you all realize that it's not going away, right? From www.themovieinsider.com...

Pledged: The Secret Life of Sororities (2005)




Production Year: 2005
Cast: Jeffrey Combs, Bruce Abbott, Simon Andreu, Enrico Arque, Nico Baixas, Jason Barry and Raquel Gribler.

Screenwriter: Alexandra Robbins
Producer: John Goldwyn, Sara Colleton, Michael Menchel, Michael Prevett
Distributor: Paramount Pictures
Production Company: Relevant Entertainment,
Genres: Drama, Comedy
Theatrical Release Date: TBA, 2005
MPAA Classification: — .
Synopsis: Four women, going through their first year in a sorority house, attend rituals, go to parties, take drugs and have eating disorders.

Notes: Alexandra Robbins, the author, went undercover to investigate.

Wow! I read the book and thought it was horribly written. Can't believe they are letting her do the screenwriting.

KellyB369 07-15-2004 11:03 AM

With all the crazy groups on here (Death Squad, Cougars, etc) I would think some of you would form the GC Mafia and take care of people like Robbins. :p

moe.ron 07-15-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KellyB369
With all the crazy groups on here (Death Squad, Cougars, etc) I would think some of you would form the GC Mafia and take care of people like Robbins. :p
First rule of GC Mafia, we do not exist.

reverie 07-15-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Synopsis: Four women, going through their first year in a sorority house, attend rituals, go to parties, take drugs and have eating disorders.

Notes: Alexandra Robbins, the author, went undercover to investigate. [/B]
That's the worst synopsis I've ever read. It talks about having eating disorders like they would say the girls have blonde hair. It sounds pretty blah if you ask me.

And I bet all of the Lifetime sorority movies will still be one million times better than this one.

On a sidenote, I read Vendela Vida's book <i>Girls on the Verge</i> and it seemed like such better investigation and research, but do you ever hear anything about it?

greencat 07-15-2004 07:45 PM

Here's an idea.

Instead of getting all pissed off about a reporter going undercover and writing a book about things she witnessed, why not take a look at how the sororities at your schools work? Why not try to change what the world outside of Greek Life views as vile or wrong?

Alexandra Robbins didn't write a book to make sorority girls mad. She did it because writing is her job, and she decided to explore an idea she had. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with her methods, or if some of her information is in dispute. Let's face it, sorority girls face problems: bullying, poor decision making, drugs, alcohol, school, sex, etc. So do all college students, but you've chosen to be a member of an elite secret society. People are going to pay closer attention.

So why not take this book as a wake-up call that the system is imperfect, and Greeks should get together and make a positive change at the local level. That's the best kind of response to this book you can take. Otherwise, you're like an ostrich burying your head in the sand if you think this author wrote a book because her sole purpose in life is to bring down the Greek System. She brought up problems. SOLVE THEM. Then you'll get your positive PR.

CarolinaCutie 07-15-2004 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greencat
Here's an idea.

Instead of getting all pissed off about a reporter going undercover and writing a book about things she witnessed, why not take a look at how the sororities at your schools work? Why not try to change what the world outside of Greek Life views as vile or wrong?

Alexandra Robbins didn't write a book to make sorority girls mad. She did it because writing is her job, and she decided to explore an idea she had. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with her methods, or if some of her information is in dispute. Let's face it, sorority girls face problems: bullying, poor decision making, drugs, alcohol, school, sex, etc. So do all college students, but you've chosen to be a member of an elite secret society. People are going to pay closer attention.

So why not take this book as a wake-up call that the system is imperfect, and Greeks should get together and make a positive change at the local level. That's the best kind of response to this book you can take. Otherwise, you're like an ostrich burying your head in the sand if you think this author wrote a book because her sole purpose in life is to bring down the Greek System. She brought up problems. SOLVE THEM. Then you'll get your positive PR.

Did you read the book?

James 07-15-2004 08:48 PM

She wrote the book to make money, all writers that write to publish do it to make money :)

Quote:

Originally posted by greencat

Alexandra Robbins didn't write a book to make sorority girls mad. She did it because writing is her job, and she decided to explore an idea she had. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with her methods, or if some of her information is in dispute. Let's face it, sorority girls face problems: bullying, poor decision making, drugs, alcohol, school, sex, etc. So do all college students, but you've chosen to be a member of an elite secret society. People are going to pay closer attention.



CASIGKAP 07-15-2004 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greencat
Here's an idea.

Instead of getting all pissed off about a reporter going undercover and writing a book about things she witnessed, why not take a look at how the sororities at your schools work? Why not try to change what the world outside of Greek Life views as vile or wrong?

So why not take this book as a wake-up call that the system is imperfect, and Greeks should get together and make a positive change at the local level. That's the best kind of response to this book you can take. Otherwise, you're like an ostrich burying your head in the sand if you think this author wrote a book because her sole purpose in life is to bring down the Greek System. She brought up problems. SOLVE THEM. Then you'll get your positive PR.

Gee. A new concept! Doing community service projects & philanthropy to try & change our image! WOW! Why didn't we think of this? All this time, I have been wasting time coming up with fundraising ideas to try & raise money for Alzheimers Research. Apparently, the Memory Walks & Lollipop sales don't do anything to help our philanthropies. I'll just have to stop my useless efforts & try to change the way others look at sororities b/c apparently, we don't do crap for the community. I thank you for your enlightened opinion!

Pink_Bug 07-15-2004 09:41 PM

This was on Robbins website...

Sat. April 24, 3-4 p.m.: Creative Partners Gallery, 4600 East-West Highway, Bethesda, MD. Alexandra Robbins will read from, discuss, and sign PLEDGED: The Secret Life of Sororities, as well as take questions on her other books, SECRETS OF THE TOMB: Skull and Bones, the Ivy League, and the Hidden Paths of Power; and QUARTERLIFE CRISIS.

Anyone in the neighborhood?

_Q_ 07-15-2004 09:45 PM

I'm just curious ... has Robbins' incredibly detailed description of four sorority girls' lives remind anyone else of ... oh, I dunno... Jayson Blair?

dgfromtx 07-15-2004 10:07 PM

Ha.
 
People are going to think what they want to think about sororities, and that's fine by me. I know I joined a well-respected organization nationally. The opinion of Barb isn't going to make me upset, although she lost respect in my book for being so closed-minded.
Kudos to Ms. Jones for doing what she did!
And honestly, since Greek Chat is cited in her book, I'm sure people will be stopping by to check this place out...
After reading the book, I realized GC is probably where Ms. Robbins got MOST of her material from!
Anyway, this is strictly my opinion!

CASIGKAP 07-15-2004 10:13 PM

Might I be so bold as to ask where she cited GreekChat? I read the book & don't remember this part.
Actually, it doesn't really matter b/c you 're right. People will continue to have their views regarding Greeks, the good & bad, but what ultimately matters is what we think about ourselves & our organizations.

33girl 07-15-2004 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by _Q_
I'm just curious ... has Robbins' incredibly detailed description of four sorority girls' lives remind anyone else of ... oh, I dunno... Jayson Blair?
cough cough Janet Cooke cough cough

greencat, Robbins advocates eliminating a pledge period, quota/total, and live-in requirements; giving a bid to every girl who rushes; and not allowing a chapter to terminate a member unless "responsible adults" are involved (she doesn't specify that these adults need to be sorority members). Do you agree with these recommendations?

CA, she referenced a serenading thread and the quota/release figures thread. That's all I've come across so far.

wrigley 07-15-2004 11:34 PM

Well if this film does come to a theatre near you, I'd reccommend that NPC band together and stand outside the theaters and pass out literature that disproves every falsehood in the book.

kdonline 07-16-2004 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadokat
And you all realize that it's not going away, right? From www.themovieinsider.com...

Pledged: The Secret Life of Sororities (2005)




Production Year: 2005
Cast: Jeffrey Combs, Bruce Abbott, Simon Andreu, Enrico Arque, Nico Baixas, Jason Barry and Raquel Gribler.

Screenwriter: Alexandra Robbins
Producer: John Goldwyn, Sara Colleton, Michael Menchel, Michael Prevett
Distributor: Paramount Pictures
Production Company: Relevant Entertainment,
Genres: Drama, Comedy
Theatrical Release Date: TBA, 2005
MPAA Classification: — .
Synopsis: Four women, going through their first year in a sorority house, attend rituals, go to parties, take drugs and have eating disorders.



The movie is about 4 women, but the cast (as far as I can tell by just looking @ the names) is all male, except for 1 female!?

_Q_ 07-16-2004 12:32 AM

Maybe it's going to be like Monty Python (men dressed up as women) and one of the sororities will have a rather stiff parrot.

jharb 07-16-2004 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kdonline
The movie is about 4 women, but the cast (as far as I can tell by just looking @ the names) is all male, except for 1 female!?
They also seem like virtual unknowns. It will probably be a b-movie like Going Greek was and end up a flop. I honestly don't think it will be that big of a deal.

DawnDZ 07-16-2004 01:14 PM

Idea....
 
heres the website:

http://abc.go.com/daytime/theview/index.html

The only way to correct something is to go to the source. You can email all of them members of the view on the website. I think you should tell them your point of you. I didn't get to see the episode but maybe if enough people write in they'll make a public apology, not likely but atleast its an attempt to make them understand there is more to sororities then looks, shopping, and our relationships with men. Its Disappointing that Joy Behar didn't stand up for us. Thats one individual who allowed the rest of us to look bad.:(

PoohsHoneyBee 07-16-2004 01:39 PM

I emailed already and Star got a thanks for trying.

hannahgirl 07-16-2004 01:42 PM

I just looked at the site and I think its rather interesting that another guest of the show that day was Donna Mills. I wonder if my DG sister had any thoughts on what the women talked about after her segment was over?


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