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DeltaSigStan 07-05-2004 09:47 PM

America's Teams
 
You see their fans in almost any city...and I don't mean your occasional fan, I mean there's a good population of them.

NFL: Raiders
Baseball: Yankees
NBA: Lakers
Hockey: Red Wings
Soccer: Man United
College Basketball: Duke
College Football: USC


Any disagree or got another one?

PrincessPhiSig 07-05-2004 10:14 PM

I disagree with your College Basketball choice. Now, my team of choice is Duke, but there are tons of people sporting Carolina stuff and most sports stores will have Carolina hats, shirts, and other merchandise available in every color of the rainbow. I personally abhor Carolina but I see their "fans" everywhere.

Duke fans are the best though! :)

DeltaSigStan 07-05-2004 10:16 PM

I saw a lot of UNC stuff in High School, but now I see a lot of Duke stuff in college...

But, ok..

The1calledTKE 07-05-2004 10:21 PM

They are also some of the most hated teams depending on who you speak to.
Baseball you also have a high number of cubs and red sox fans.

Football has alot of Cowboy fans out there.

Basketball also has the spurs, knicks and celtics

Hockey has toronto.

College baseketball has kentucky

College football Miami or FSU.

All the above including your list are some of the most popular teams in sports.

CSUSigEp 07-05-2004 10:40 PM

Man U over Real Madrid? Personally I dont think that America has a favorite soccer team yet. With Adu on DC United though I think thats the most popular MLS choice.

I dont agree with the Raiders either, Id say Cowboys. I live 20 minutes from the Coliseum and I know lots of people who hate the Raiders.

College Football Id say Nebraska or Ohio State. Yeah Nebraska is only popular because of the Red N and the gang affiliation, but USC for sure isnt America's team...

thermobryan 07-05-2004 10:49 PM

Re: America's Teams
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
You see their fans in almost any city...and I don't mean your occasional fan, I mean there's a good population of them.

NFL: Raiders
Baseball: Yankees
NBA: Lakers
Hockey: Red Wings
Soccer: Man United
College Basketball: Duke
College Football: USC


Any disagree or got another one?

I am a Raiders fan, but I dont agree that they're americas team..they're americas most hated team, not their team though....This is my list:

NFL: Cowboys
MLB: Yankees
NBA: Lakers
NHL: Red Wings

Soccer isnt an american sport, sorry, nobody really knows about it. The College teams, ehh, its a close one there...I gotta say either UCLA, Duke, UNC on that one....UCLA due to its history and wooden, not as of recent....College football is kinda up in the air i gotta say...

DeltaSigStan 07-05-2004 10:56 PM

The fan base in America (It's bigger than you think buddy) follows the world game very well, so amongst those fans, I'd say Man United.

Real Madrid maybe, but I also know a lot of Barcelona fans. There may be a lot of Arsenal fans though....

MLS teams don't count...like I said, most American soccer fans pay more attention to Europe and South America.

I've just heard the stories of the Raider Nation popping up at many road games, and I don't mean a small number of fans. Of course, that may be cause I'm in San Diego....

Ever since the Cowboys strated to suck with Chan Gailey and Dave Campo etc, I sawe a lot of their fan base drop off, maybe the Tuna will change that.

valkyrie 07-05-2004 11:24 PM

Everybody outside of New York hates the Yankees. The Cubs get my vote as "America's team" also. I can almost see the Lakers, but I think you could've said the same thing about the Bulls a few years ago when they won all the time -- basically with basketball, America's team is whoever is kicking ass at the moment.

I don't think that there's any such thing as "America's team" for any other sports. College sports are really a regional thing -- growing up in the Chicago area, I never heard of anyone who cared about Duke or USC -- okay, maybe Duke, but I hate them so it doesn't count, lol.

KillarneyRose 07-05-2004 11:37 PM

When I think of America's Team for college football, Notre Dame is the school that always comes to mind.

It seems like lots of people are Irish fans even though they aren't in any way affiliated with the school.

Both my alma mater and that of my husband play Notre Dame in football every year and, based on the fans in the stands, I find it difficult to believe that those folks are ND alumni!

DeltaSigStan 07-05-2004 11:57 PM

Re: Re: America's Teams
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
but if i had to say one, I'd have to go with Prairie View. I got so pissed when the streak ended. And I think all of America was pretty upset too...biotch


Have a take. Don't suck. I'm OUT...biotch

Awwk? Was that Jim Rome's Parrot?

NC State's Women's team? Maybe they've provided some of the best women's soccer players ever, but you can't tell me the average American soccer fan them follows them on a regular basis the way they would a Euro team (and that's a small number of soccer fans who actually keep up with ANY team, most soccer fans here would rather play it than watch it).

Cal Poly Pomona? That's like celebrating winning the Arena Bowl.

I'll give the nod to Notre Dame though.

Thank you for that Rome E-mail you posted. Maybe you can send it in tommorow and win a free tub of Sunflower seeds?

thermobryan 07-05-2004 11:58 PM

Re: Re: America's Teams
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon


College Bball: I'd have to say Cal Poly Pomona's back to back womens national champions...biotch

Ummm....

PM_Mama00 07-06-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
When I think of America's Team for college football, Notre Dame is the school that always comes to mind.

It seems like lots of people are Irish fans even though they aren't in any way affiliated with the school.

Both my alma mater and that of my husband play Notre Dame in football every year and, based on the fans in the stands, I find it difficult to believe that those folks are ND alumni!

I'd say Notre Dame too. And, not being biased here, Michigan as a 2nd. When I got to games I can't believe the license plates I see. Everywhere I've been, I see Michigan paraphanelia. Maybe differently elsewhere, but I notice it alot.

Kevin 07-06-2004 12:24 AM

College football is kind of a regional team. Stan, you being from Cali, you're obviously going to say USC:D

Down in Oklahoma, we might have to just agree to disagree on that ;)

And folks up in the midwest will tell you Michigan or ND. That's not the case (although, you might be able to make a case for ND).

Nebraska had a good following until recently when it started to stink it up. Maybe with Callahan in a few years, they'll be up there again. But it won't be immediately.

As for the rest of those things, here in Oklahoma, we don't really care about anything but our NCAA football :D

AlphaFrog 07-06-2004 12:28 AM

Baseball is definatly the Cubs...besides last season, when's the last time they were worth a crap and they still had loyal fans everywhere...it's easy for "America's Team" to be whoever's winning at the time, but the Cubs are time-tested, underdog favorites.

DeltaSigStan 07-06-2004 12:33 AM

I'm actually a UCLA fan since we have a chapter there and not SC.

Kevin 07-06-2004 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Baseball is definatly the Cubs...besides last season, when's the last time they were worth a crap and they still had loyal fans everywhere...it's easy for "America's Team" to be whoever's winning at the time, but the Cubs are time-tested, underdog favorites.
I'd have to go with the Yankees.

Everyone either loves 'em or hates 'em. But they care about them one way or the other.

Can't really say that about the Padres.

Kevin 07-06-2004 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
I'm actually a UCLA fan since we have a chapter there and not SC.
I'm just saying that outside of Cali, not many really care about SC that I've seen -- or maybe I should say outside of the Pac-10. No one gave a crap about them until Carroll engineered the turnaround. Up 'til then, they were kind of irrelevant. I don't think you're "America's Team" after 2 years.

You'd probably have to give that to ND. They're the only team I know that can support a huge national fanbase despite the fact that they suck.

DeltaSigStan 07-06-2004 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake


You'd probably have to give that to ND. They're the only team I know that can support a huge national fanbase despite the fact that they suck.

Again, I give that nod to Notre Dame. I hope Ty Willingham can overcome what happened last season, plus those "We need the black athlete so we need to soften standards for acceptance" comments that one old guy gave.

Kevin 07-06-2004 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Again, I give that nod to Notre Dame. I hope Ty Willingham can overcome what happened last season, plus those "We need the black athlete so we need to soften standards for acceptance" comments that one old guy gave.
Oh that guy (I forget his name) was just retarded. He consequently "resigned" from his position (in other words, they gave him the boot). After what Willingham did at Stanford (which is really pretty amazing), he should be able to have success at ND. He's a good coach and he's churning out good players for the NFL.

I'm looking forward to watching Julius Jones in the NFL. He should be getting a shot to start in Dallas.

Betarulz! 07-06-2004 01:03 AM

NFL: Green Bay, very few people who are only casual fans hate the Pack. Unless youre a fan of the Vikes, Bears or Lions, Green Bay is a team that you can appreciate.

MLB: Either Cubs or Bosox...pretty much you feel sorry for the both of them, so it's more pity than anything, but more people hate the yankees nationwide than the Red Sox.

NHL: Colorado or Detroit pretty evenly split

Soccer: Man U, just because the casual fan doesn't know anything more.

NBA: whatever team is doing well at the time. I think it's easier to pick one player and like that team b/c of that person rather than really care about a team.

College Football: I'd say Nebraska, and not because I'm biased - I've been all over the place and wearing Nebraska stuff and have people come up and talk to me about the team. Anywhere from a Cruise ship in the Caribean when I talked to a guy from Northern Canada to the streets of Bloomington IN when I was there for UIFI.
Other than Nebraska, probably Michigan.

Basketball: I always see a bunch of Tarheels stuff around. Next is probably Arizona.

Jill1228 07-06-2004 03:36 AM

What she said! I get excited when I see someone wearing Duke nalia! :D
As far as NFL, I root for the Redskins and anyone playing the Dallas Cowboys!

Quote:

Originally posted by PrincessPhiSig
I disagree with your College Basketball choice. Now, my team of choice is Duke, but there are tons of people sporting Carolina stuff and most sports stores will have Carolina hats, shirts, and other merchandise available in every color of the rainbow. I personally abhor Carolina but I see their "fans" everywhere.

Duke fans are the best though! :)


wreckingcrew 07-06-2004 02:15 PM

I really think the qualification of an "America's Team" is totally based on people either being fans or despising you.

Whoever posted the Yankees, Lakers, Cowboys, Red Wings was right on.

I'll agree that College Sports is more of a regional thing, but when it comes to football Notre Dame and basketball UNC you will find supporters and opposers everywhere.

ktsnake, the guy you're thinking of is Paul Horning.

This all kinda hinges back on the 'bandwagon' fan argument, and y'all surely know my feelings about that.

LOL at whoever said the Cubs are America's Team. Just because you're known as perennial losers and the country feels sorry for you, doesn't make you America's Darlings.

Kitso
KS 361

honeychile 07-06-2004 04:06 PM

Sorry, Man U CANNOT be "America's team" since it's not even in America. Freddy Adu may turn the fan base around for DC United, but the Chicago Fire won the Supporters' Cup.

I've seen Man U, I've seen Real Madrid, I've seen several other European teams - but the most exciting games I've EVER seen are those with the USMNT (US Men's National Team), while sitting with Sam's Army!

For the record, about a year ago, I realized that I had been to over 1,000 professional soccer games, so I think I'm fairly informed on this!

PiEp299 07-06-2004 04:18 PM

I'd have to say that America's teams are, just based on the places I've been for any extended period of time are:
NFL - would be Dallas or Denver, NBA - Chicago or the Lakers, NHL - Detroit or the Rangers, MLB - the Cubs, College Basketball - Duke, College Football - ND easily (they're the only other team you'll find fans of in most southern states besides the state team(s)).

Sister Havana 07-06-2004 04:34 PM

I definitely agree with Notre Dame in college football. They're the only team with every game on network TV, and they have all the "subway alumni."

You can make a good case for the Cubs in baseball too. When Sports Illustrated was doing the 50 state thing, you'd be surprised how many states listed the Cubs as a favorite baseball team...places nowhere near Illinois.

PhiPsiRuss 07-06-2004 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
Everybody outside of New York hates the Yankees. The Cubs get my vote as "America's team" also.
The Yankees sell more merchandise than any other baseball team, and its not a slight edge. I haven't seen the numbers in a while, but something like more than 20% of all MLB merchandise sold is Yankee merchandise. I'm not a Yankees fan, but they are clearly America's team.

Dallas gets the nod for football.

I don't know about the others, but I've got a hunch that Notre Dame is the most popular NCAA football team.

DeltaSigStan 07-06-2004 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Sorry, Man U CANNOT be "America's team" since it's not even in America. Freddy Adu may turn the fan base around for DC United, but the Chicago Fire won the Supporters' Cup.

I've seen Man U, I've seen Real Madrid, I've seen several other European teams - but the most exciting games I've EVER seen are those with the USMNT (US Men's National Team), while sitting with Sam's Army!

For the record, about a year ago, I realized that I had been to over 1,000 professional soccer games, so I think I'm fairly informed on this!

I know there were just tours, but last years Nike tour was the biggest thing in American soccer in 2003, and those we're exhibitions. There were so many fans of every team present (especially Man U), so they come out in the woodworks when the time comes.

They may not be in America, but this is the WORLD's game. This is the only sport we've listed that is more popular outside of the US and Canada, and with the many fan clubs of the Premier league and La Liga in the USA, I'd still have to say a Euro team has a bigger fan base than any MLS team.

That's great you got to sit with Sam's Army though, I've never been around USMNT fans whenever they play, and I heard they're rabid.

Let's see interest in MLS period increase, then maybe they can hold that title.

DeltAlum 07-06-2004 06:02 PM

Having lived, visited or worked in TV (including broadcastins sports) in most parts of the country, I think this whole thing is pretty regional.

I absolutely agree with Notre Dame, though.

As an aside, when the whole Dallas Cowboys "America's Team" thing was going on, I was at an event at Cherry Creek High School (known locally as "Creek"). It is a big campus type school and has won something like 60 state championships in major sports. One year, as I recall, they won, football, basketball, baseball and tennis. Big time school. Anyway, I was in a classroom and someone had put a bumper sticker on the teachers podium that read, "Creek, America's School."

That's just going too far. (Especially when your kids go to another Cherry Creek District high school)

PM_Mama00 07-07-2004 01:05 AM

What about WNBA?

Tennis? I'd say the Williams sisters for girls. Agassi used to be huge for the guys (he's still #1 in my heart!). I duno who the big guy would be now.

I know that tennis isn't a "by state or school" category, but it's still a huge American sport.

CSUSigEp 07-07-2004 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
You'd probably have to give that to ND. They're the only team I know that can support a huge national fanbase despite the fact that they suck.
Well they also are one of the few teams with a National television contract. Thats what it comes down to a lot nowadays. I bet nobody would give 2 shits about the Cubs if it werent for WGN being broadcast nationally (I know I wouldnt).

Rio_Kohitsuji 07-07-2004 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
What about WNBA?

Tennis? I'd say the Williams sisters for girls. Agassi used to be huge for the guys (he's still #1 in my heart!). I duno who the big guy would be now.

I know that tennis isn't a "by state or school" category, but it's still a huge American sport.

Tennis: For women it's defintely the Williams sisters, they're just badazz. For guys it's went from Agassi, to Sampras, and now it's Roddick. (just a note...Roddick is hot ;) )

http://i.ivillage.com/womn/photos/andyroddick_thumb.jpg

CSUSigEp 07-09-2004 12:33 AM

Coincidentally Sports Illustrated finished its poll of Americans in every state and answered the initial question of this thread.

NFL:
Cowboys 8%
Packers 6%
49ers 6% (raiders werent even in the top 8)

Baseball:
Yanks 11%
Braves 9%
Cubs 8%

NBA:
Lakers 12%
Celtics 6%
Bulls 6%

NHL:
Red Wings 7%
Bruins, blackhawks, stars, rangers 4%
no favorite 40% (lol see, hockey sucks!)

College (no particular sport mentioned):
Notre Dame 4%
Nebraska 3%
Florida 2%
Michigan 2%
Penn St. 2%

Kevin 07-09-2004 10:42 AM

If only 4% agreed on ND, I guess that shows that there is no such thing as a "National" team these days.

Homerism abounds. That's the way it should be.

KSigkid 07-09-2004 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
If only 4% agreed on ND, I guess that shows that there is no such thing as a "National" team these days.

Homerism abounds. That's the way it should be.

Exactly - the more there is a "National" team, that means more fans rooting for a team they know nothing about, usually just rooting for the front-runner.

(and yes, I know I'm a Yankee fan - but that's different, I grew up and was raised a die-hard, even in the bad Andy Hawkins/Steve Sax years)


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