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PureGoldF2K1 07-04-2004 12:14 PM

NPC's that didn't make it
 
Hey, I was just curious and wondering if there had ever been any members of NPC that don't exist anymore?

aopirose 07-04-2004 12:19 PM

Iota Alpha Pi - This is the only group, as a whole, that voted to close rahter than affiliate with another group. That was ~1972.

The rest affliated with other NPC groups.

Alpha Delta Theta m. Phi Mu, 1939.

Alpha Sigma Delta m. Lambda Omega, 1932; Lambda Omega m. Theta Upsilon, 1933; Theta Upsilon m. Delta Zeta, 5/6/62.

Beta Phi Alpha m. Delta Zeta, 6/22/41

Beta Sigma Omicron m. Zeta Tau Alpha, 8/64

Delta Sigma Epsilon m. Pi Delta Theta, 1940;
then DSE m. Delta Zeta, 1956

Sigma Phi Beta m. Phi Alpha Chi, 1/7/28;
Sigma Phi Beta m. Phi Omega Pi, 10/1/33;
Sigma Sigma Omicron m. Sigma Phi Beta, 1972.

Phi Omega Pi m. Delta Zeta, 8/10/46

Pi Kappa Sigma m. Sigma Kappa, 5/15/59

Pi Lambda Sigma m. Theta Phi Alpha, 6/28/52

Theta Sigma Upsilon m. Alpha Gamma Delta, 6/29/59

Theta Upsilon m. Delta Zeta, 5/6/62

Diamond Delta 07-04-2004 01:22 PM

Just to recap-
 
Alpha Delta Theta Merged w/ Phi Mu

Alpha Kappa Psi fd.1904-dissolved

Alpha Sigma Delta merged with Lambda Omega who later merged with Theta Upsilon who later merged with DZ

Beta Phi Alpha joined DZ

Beta Sigma Omicron joined ZTA 1964-so some of those girls are probably still alive!

Two Chapters of Delta Sigma joined AOPi

Pi Delta Theta (an NPC member) joined Delta Sigma Epsilon in 1940-first merger of that kind within the AES

Delta Sigma Epsilon joined DZ in 1956

Iota Alpha Pi-first national started by Jewish Women in 1903. Disbanded 1971.

Phi Omega Pi-founded 1910and an NPC member-amalgamated with Sigma Phi Beta in 1933. Soon after, chapters were absorbed by AOPi, AGD, SK, and KAT. Formally disbanded in 1946 and DZ absorbed the rest of the chapters and all alumnae per an NPC request (intresting!)

Pi Delta Theta-the brain child of Sarah Ida Shaw-remember her?-formed in 1925, later merged with Delta Sigma Epsilon then with DZ

Pi Lambda Sigma merged with Theta Phi Alpha in 1952 because they were both Catholic sororities at the time.

Sigma Sigma Omicron formed in 1920, changed its name to Sigma Phi Beta in 1927.

Then merged with Phi Alpha Chi b/c of the similar principals and goals. Then was absorbed by Phi Omega Pi which was absorbed by DZ.

Sigma theta Upsilon merged with AGD.

Theta Upsilon merged with DZ in 1962-probably some of them are still alive.

I believe at one point Kappa Beta Gamma were part of the NPC and then left NPC but they are still going strong with 7 chapters and 3 alumni associations. I think they may have some interest groups too. Not sure.:)

LAKDgirl 07-04-2004 01:45 PM

wow! How in the world do you people know that?

and a lot of these mergings are now with DZ!! wow.

Diamond Delta 07-04-2004 01:55 PM

That explains how DZ is one of the biggest I guess!

KillarneyRose 07-04-2004 02:06 PM

I was gonna say, I never knew about all those mergers. We're like the Microsoft of the NPC!

Munchkin03 07-04-2004 08:40 PM

Why is the information in the second post virtually repeated in the second.

You GC-ers, always wanting the last word...:p

XOMichelle 07-04-2004 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I was gonna say, I never knew about all those mergers. We're like the Microsoft of the NPC!
ha ha ha ha...

DeltaBetaBaby 07-05-2004 11:47 PM

How does a group decide what group to merge with?

PM_Mama00 07-06-2004 12:05 AM

Lol I met a girl in one of my classes who I kept trying to rush. Finally she told me that she was a Kappa Beta Gamma. They are part of the NPC at their school, but not nationally. I thought their name was cool cuz locally we were Kappa Gamma Beta.

33girl 07-06-2004 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
How does a group decide what group to merge with?
Probably commonality of ideals, opportunity and lack of chapter overlap. I. E. ASA and AST would never merge because we have chapters at so many of the same schools. It wouldn't help either of us with size issues.

Diamond Delta 07-06-2004 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by 33girl
Probably commonality of ideals, opportunity and lack of chapter overlap. I. E. ASA and AST would never merge because we have chapters at so many of the same schools. It wouldn't help either of us with size issues.
That is eactly right. When I read the Baird's it pretty much stay sfactual and doesn't say too much about why certain groups merge, but it does tell that they "have the same mission, pupose, goals, etc, etc" and not having too much chapter overlap is definitely a factor. It is also a mutual decision I beleive. Either XYZ and ABC decide to merge or perhaps, ABC realizes that they are not doing well for one reason or other and seeks out another group to abosrb them. Or possibly XYZ sees that ABC is a great sorority and they have the similar ideals, but for whatever reason ABC is having a hard time with growth, offers to absorb them. I don't think of it as a hostile take over or anything! I am sure some alumnae might not like it, you can't make everybody like everything. But it is a mutual decision.

AEPhiSierra 07-06-2004 09:54 AM

I have always wondered why Iota Alpha Pi didn't affiliate with AEPhi or SDT since they were the first historically jewish national sorority. My only guess is there was probably a lot of chapter overlap.

aopirose 07-06-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AEPhiSierra
I have always wondered why Iota Alpha Pi didn't affiliate with AEPhi or SDT since they were the first historically jewish national sorority. My only guess is there was probably a lot of chapter overlap.
That's what I guess too then again, there are some people who would rather "die" then affiliate with anyone. That may not be the case here.

***Paging Exlurker***
If you have time or inclination, could you please with a cherry on top give us a list of IAII chapters? THANKS!!!!

aephi alum 07-06-2004 10:34 AM

So what happens when there is a merger and there is some chapter overlap? Or, what has happened in the past? Do the chapters merge? I'm thinking of some of the schools where it's not uncommon to have 200+ member chapters... a merger happens, and suddenly you have over 400 sisters in your chapter! :eek: But I guess that would work itself out over time, with the quota/total system.

AEPhiSierra 07-06-2004 11:18 AM

I do have the chapter list but have never cross referenced it with AEPhi or SDT (I got it from Baird's so if parts don't make sense it's there fault, not mine):

Alpha - Hunter 1903-1913
Beta - Hunter 1913 - 1965
Gamma - Brooklyn Law - 1913-1941
Delta - NYU - Washington Sq. - 1922
Epsilon - New Jersey Law - 1922-1942
Zeta - Adelphi - 1926
Eta - Denver - 1927-1942
Kappa - Toronto - 1929-1956
Iota - Long Island (LIU?) - 1930
Lambda - Brooklyn College - 1931
Mu - Manitoba - 1935
Nu - Wayne St. - 1935
Omicron - Queens - 1938
Pi - Syracuse - 1942
Rho - Miami - 1946-1956
Sigma - Temple - 1946
Upsilon - Rider - 1947-1955
Phi - Illinois - 1954
Psi - NYC University Hts - 1960-1965
Beta Alpha - Penn St. - 1962
Beta Beta - CCNY
Beta Delta - Cornell
Beta Epsilon - C.W. Post

I know AEPhi has/had chapters at more than half these schools but I don't know how many were active in the early 70's.

Am I right in guessing they joined NPC in 1941 or 1942 since those are the years the Law School chapters closed?

Peaches-n-Cream 07-06-2004 11:34 AM

Where do you find all of this information? Baird's? I am trying to google these sororities, and I'm not having any luck.

radioZTA 07-06-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
So what happens when there is a merger and there is some chapter overlap? Or, what has happened in the past? Do the chapters merge?
When Beta Sigma Omicron was absorbed by (not merged with) ZTA in 1964, BSO had only 14 collegiate chapters that were still open and none of them were doing well. 7 were on campuses that already had ZTA chapters but the other 7 became ZTA chapters at their schools.

I have heard that the BSO collegians were given the chance to affiliate but don't know if this is so. An updated history of ZTA is being worked on right now so maybe there will be more info there.

BTW...BSO's ritual books and paraphernalia are archived at ZTA's international HQ.

texas*princess 07-06-2004 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by radioZTA
When Beta Sigma Omicron was absorbed by (not merged with) ZTA in 1964....
I really like how radioZTA used the words "absorbed by" as opposed to using the words "merged with".

I don't know if this is just my way of thinking, but when I think of ABC absorbing XYZ, I think that XYZ no longer used their ritual or symbols or whatever, but ABC's instead.

A merger in my mind, would be that both ABC and XYZ collaborated and the original ritual (or just open symbols or whatever having to do with the GLO) was sort of changed to include some of both ABC's and XYZ's things.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong :)

sugar and spice 07-06-2004 12:12 PM

texas*princess, I agree with you -- but in some cases, some of the other GLO's ritual or traditions were brought into the new group. I'm not sure if this is the case for any of the above, but in the case of some "mergers" the absorbed group's ritual became the basis for a pledge ceremony or some other ceremony.

33girl 07-06-2004 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaRose
Omicron - Queens
- AEPhi: Epsilon Delta chapter, closed in 1971 also.
- SDT: Beta Zeta chapter, closed in 1971 also.

ASA's Gamma Delta chapter, at Queens, also closed in 1971. So I'm guessing they got rid of Greeks completely, or lost accreditation or something.

aephi alum 07-06-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaRose
Lambda - Brooklyn
- AEPhi: Epsilon Beta chapter, closed in 1976.

That's AEPhiSierra's chapter... it has reopened. My NM manual indicates that chapter as active, so it must have reopened before 1995. (But, of course, the point is that that chapter was open when IAPi closed.)

AEPhiSierra 07-06-2004 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetaRose
I'm a nerd, and I like to cross reference (not to mention that I'm bored to tears right now, lol)

Chapters of IAPi that were open in 1971 at the time of closure, and relevant AEPhi and SDT chapter info :

Lambda - Brooklyn
- AEPhi: Epsilon Beta chapter, closed in 1976.
- SDT: Lambda chapter

Omicron - Queens
- AEPhi: Epsilon Delta chapter, closed in 1971 also.
- SDT: Beta Zeta chapter, closed in 1971 also.

Beta Beta - CCNY
- No AEPhi or SDT chapters


So AEPhi could have gained 6 new chapters, and SDT 5 new chapters. Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's. It sort of makes sense that there wasn't a merger when you look at it like that.

Corrections on the Brooklyn info: The SDT chapter is Alpha Omicron and their original charter shut down a year or two before our original charter shut down. And in response to AEPhiAlum, I am from Brooklyn College and our chapter re-chartered in 1992 (though I have heard rumors of a brief re-charter in the 1980's)

I am not sure exactly what happened because I haven't dug through CUNY archives yet but basically all Greek life died out at CUNY (which includes Brooklyn, Queens & CCNY) in the early 70's. Still not sure if they were outlawed outright or if the administration just made it hard to exist. According to Baird's Brooklyn College Chapters died out btwn 70-76 with the exception of DPhiE somehow staying til 84, 4 years before the oldest sorority currently on campus was founded (if a DPhiE could get me the story of how their chapter stayed open that long I would really appreciate b/c I am trying to piece together my campus's greek history). The same thing basically happened with Queens between 67-71 with DZ somehow lasting to 1980. I don't know the story with CCNY though.

If sororities weren't banned outright maybe AEPhi or SDT could have benefitted from larger chapters after a merger? But if they were banned outright, losing 3 chapters could have been what really forced IAPi to close.

I wish I could talk to a sister of IAPi and find out the whole story!

Peaches-n-Cream 07-06-2004 02:27 PM

I think that either Queens College or the CUNY system in general shut down the greeks.

I know my neighbor went to Queens College in the late 1960s and/or early 1970s, and she remembers DPhiE sisters running around in purple and gold jackets. That chapter closed and rechartered in 1990.

I posted before I read AEPhiSierra's post. I'm not sure how Brooklyn College DPhiE stayed open until 1984. I was under the impression that the greeks disappeared from the CUNY system in the early to mid 1970s. I did find some information about a fraternity closing a chapter at City College in 1913.

PenguinTrax 07-15-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by radioZTA
BTW...BSO's ritual books and paraphernalia are archived at ZTA's international HQ.
I have 2 copies of the BSO new member manual that I got off of eBay.

AEPhiSierra 07-15-2004 04:53 PM

some of these orgs didn't close that long ago. does anyone know anyone who was in them or maybe parent or grandparents.

plus, would a granddaughter or daughter of a member of a closed sorority be automatically be a legacy or would that only be the case if they were formally initiated into the new organization after the merger?

AlphaSigOU 07-15-2004 07:34 PM

Phi Pi Phi was founded in 1915 in Chicago, and merged with Alpha Sigma Phi in 1938. There were some chapter overlaps, and active members in Phi Pi Phi were automatically granted membership in Alpha Sigma Phi. Members from dormant chapters where no chapter of Alpha Sigma Phi exists may request initiation as a member-at-large (without specific chapter affiliation).

Alpha Kappa Pi was founded in 1926 at Wagner College, when a local fraternity at Newark College of Engineering (now New Jersey Institute of Technology) and another local fraternity at Wagner College combined to form Alpha Kappa Pi. On September 6, 1945, Alpha Kappa Pi consolidated with Alpha Sigma Phi.

Unlike the merger with Phi Pi Phi in 1939, the consolidation with Alpha Kappa Pi brought about many changes to Alpha Sigma Phi. The constitution, bylaws and ritual were changed, and the Alpha Kappa Pi Badge became the Pledge Pin of the Fraternity The Sister Pin of Alpha Kappa Pi was adopted as the official sister pin by replacing the Greek letters Alpha Kappa Pi with Alpha Sigma Phi.. All chapters of Alpha Kappa Pi were added, including a considerable number that were never reactivated after World War II.

In 1965, Alpha Gamma Upsilon Fraternity partially merged with Alpha Sigma Phi. Alpha Gamma Upsilon was founded at Anthony Wayne Institute in Fort Wayne, Indiana, in 1922, the merger adding five new chapters to 'The Old Gal'. The remaining chapters of Alpha Gamma Upsilon that chose not to merge with Alpha Sigma Phi were later merged with other fraternities.

ebayfan 07-16-2004 09:25 AM

One BSO chapter went APhi
 
When there is overlap, some chapters chose another group. A collector friend of mine is both a Beta Sigma Omicron AND an Alpha Phi.

ebayfan

Little E 07-16-2004 10:08 AM

Quote:

So AEPhi could have gained 6 new chapters, and SDT 5 new chapters. Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's. It sort of makes sense that there wasn't a merger when you look at it like that.
I believe at this time however, that some schools were booting NPC because of discriminatory clauses in their membership. From what I understand. KD, Tri-Delt, Theta, and Pi Phi. (DG had left in '63) were all given ultimatiums around 1970, either integrate or leave because the greeks were not in line w/college policy on discrimination. (This is what the dean of student's told me so...sorry if i'm wrong) So for some the mergers wouldn't matter, because there was also internal strife of needing to align the greek orgs with the changing climate in the college arena. That's just my guess though as to why so many orgs lost so many chapters and many needed to merge/absorb.

KillarneyRose 04-05-2005 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by radioZTA
When Beta Sigma Omicron was absorbed by (not merged with) ZTA in 1964, BSO had only 14 collegiate chapters that were still open and none of them were doing well. 7 were on campuses that already had ZTA chapters but the other 7 became ZTA chapters at their schools.

I have heard that the BSO collegians were given the chance to affiliate but don't know if this is so. An updated history of ZTA is being worked on right now so maybe there will be more info there.

BTW...BSO's ritual books and paraphernalia are archived at ZTA's international HQ.


My daughter's 2nd grade teacher told me she had been a BSO at Indiana University of Pennsylvania (then, Indiana State Teachers' College) but it had been absorbed by another sorority her senior year and she didn't remember which sorority it was. I knew I could find that answer here on GC! :D

TxAPhi 04-05-2005 02:05 PM

From A Centennial History of Alpha Phi Fraternity:

The first man walked in space in 1965. He stepped from a Soviet spaceship. Soon thereafter an American repeated the feat. Gemini 6 and Gemini 7 executed the first manned space rendezvous. The Watts riot in Los Angeles occurred in August, forerunner of future civil disorders. A massive power failure blacked out most of the northeastern United States and Canada on the night of November 9-10.

Beta Sigma Omicron, a member of NPC, became inactive in 1964, and Alpha Phi pledged three of her chapters. One of these was at Louisiana State University at Baton Rouge. There were sixteen NPC groups on campus. Twenty-three collegians and forty alumnae of the Beta Sigma Omicron chapter were initiated in May 1965 by the Omega (Texas) chapter and became Delta Tau chapter of Alpha Phi. The group had been on campus since 1929 and had many loyal alumnae.

On November 20, 1964, thirty-two collegians and forty-seven alumnae of the Beta Sigma Omicron chapter at Baldwin Wallace College, Berea, Ohio, were initiated into Delta Upsilon chapter of Alpha Phi. Five other NPC groups were on campus. Beta Omega (Kent State) initiated; Beta Omicron (Bowling Green State) conducted the model meeting; Beta Kappa (Denison) also contributed to the weekend.

Nine NPC groups were on the campus of Indiana University of Pennsylvania at Indiana, when thirty-eight collegians and seven alumnae of the former Beta Sigma Omicron chapter were initiated into Delta Phi chapter of Alpha Phi on January 30, 1965. Because this was rush week, the newly initiated group held a rush party the Sunday following initiation.


Note: Delta Phi has been inactive since 1988. Delta Tau has been inactive since 1980. Delta Upsilon chapter at Baldwin Wallace is doing very well. The alumnae of Delta Tau are also still very active.

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Unregistered- 04-05-2005 03:01 PM

Gee, I wonder what happened to that Diamond Delta? :confused:

AngelPhiSig 08-23-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AEPhiSierra
I do have the chapter list but have never cross referenced it with AEPhi or SDT (I got it from Baird's so if parts don't make sense it's there fault, not mine):

Alpha - Hunter 1903-1913
Beta - Hunter 1913 - 1965

Phi Sigma Sigma was founded at Hunter College in 1913.

Sororities at Hunter in 1913:
Gamma Tau Kappa
Omega Iota
Phi Sigma Psi
Epsilon Phi
Omega Theta Pi
J.A.P.
Pi Sigma
Kappa Delta*
Sigma Phi Omega
Phi Delta Sigma
Sigma Alpha Gamma
Apha Epsilon Phi*
Pi Delta Theta
Zeta Pi
*=Current NPC groups

That must have been when IAPi closed.

tunatartare 08-23-2005 09:36 PM

If a former member of IAPi or BSO wanted to pursue AI, would she be able to since she was no longer a part of the NPC?

33girl 08-23-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KLPDaisy
If a former member of IAPi or BSO wanted to pursue AI, would she be able to since she was no longer a part of the NPC?
Since BSO was absorbed by ZTA, I personally would consider her bound to ZTA unless ZTA told me otherwise.

As far as IAPi, I don't know. If you're going by not being in NPC, then Kappa Beta Gamma members could also theoretically become alum members of an NPC, and I don't think that would go over well with the NPC groups who compete with them in collegiate rush.

LXA SE285 08-23-2005 09:55 PM

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Beta Sigma Omicron joined ZTA 1964-so some of those girls are probably still alive!
One of my sister's closest friends, a woman in her 60s whom she met in nursing school, was a BSO at Samford in the late ’50s or early ’60s. The chapter was historically very strong on campus and is one of Zeta's top chapters today. (I think my sister's friend either left school to get married or graduated before they affiliated.)

Guest1 12-24-2006 02:39 PM

Wow, this is such an interesting post. I never knew how this history! :)

DaffyKD 12-24-2006 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetaRose (Post 779436)
So AEPhi could have gained 6 new chapters, and SDT 5 new chapters. Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's. It sort of makes sense that there wasn't a merger when you look at it like that.

There were A LOT of problems for the greek system in 1970-72. The elitist attitude of the Greeks was coming into play and was a source of great angst to many a school. Minorities were just starting to go through rush, but most of the houses were very staunch in the all white stands, thus the relevance of Greeks was being questioned on every level. Schools were dealing with sit-ins and major anti-war demonstrations which were more relevant to campus members. During that time, rush numbers for sororities were low.

Hazing was also a big issue for fraternities at the time. There were rules against hazing, but enforcement did not come for quite some time. Again, this brought into play the relevance of the Greek system and their need on campus. The philanthropic work was not in the open, only the partying and hazing were what the community saw.

DaffyKD

DeltaBetaBaby 12-24-2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaffyKD (Post 1374685)
There were A LOT of problems for the greek system in 1970-72. The elitist attitude of the Greeks was coming into play and was a source of great angst to many a school. Minorities were just starting to go through rush, but most of the houses were very staunch in the all white stands, thus the relevance of Greeks was being questioned on every level. Schools were dealing with sit-ins and major anti-war demonstrations which were more relevant to campus members. During that time, rush numbers for sororities were low.

Hazing was also a big issue for fraternities at the time. There were rules against hazing, but enforcement did not come for quite some time. Again, this brought into play the relevance of the Greek system and their need on campus. The philanthropic work was not in the open, only the partying and hazing were what the community saw.

DaffyKD

My mother was on campus from 1969-1973, and she talks about how much change there was in those four years. She was in a sorority, and as freshman, they did not leave the house in anything but skirts, and by the time she was a senior, they were allowed to wear JEANS!

Strangely, I think they were also very good years for the Greeks at Illinois, because the university did not have enough housing for its students, and encouraged as many as possible to go greek. If you look at the houses, the majority have obvious additions that were added in the late 60's or early 70's.

honeychile 12-25-2006 12:35 AM

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I once saw an Iota Alpha Pi pin on ebay, and it was beautiful! It was a diamond very similar to the ADPi diamond, but with a shadow effect, something like <<> . The first part of the shadow was gold, and the rest was strangely enough, azure blue! Then the letters were in gold.

I was convinced it was a colony which became ADPi, until I read its history - just like I thought Alpha Delta Theta would have been a more likely candidate to merge with Alpha Delta Pi than Phi Mu! Thank heavens for Baird's!!

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