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CrimsonTide4 06-30-2004 08:44 PM

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
 
What has gotten into Usher?

New York, NY (LifeNews.com)

-- Music fans should be outraged by a remix of a song off the latest hit album from R&B singer Usher. The remix, featuring hardcore rapper Joe Budden, advocates abortion and violence against pregnant women, a representative of an African-American group says.

Usher's latest album, Confessions, has topped the sales charts for nine weeks, selling more than four million copies in only 11 weeks after its release. Three of the first singles from the album have hit number one, and the latest, "Burn," remains at number one for the seventh straight week.

However a remix of the song, "Confessions, Part II" is drawing complaints. In the original, currently number two on Billboard's pop charts, Usher's "confession" is that he has had an illicit relationship with another woman. The mistress reveals she is three months pregnant and plans to keep the baby.

However, Budden adds additional lyrics to the song, not found in the original on Usher's album, saying he hopes she will abort the baby and, if not, he will beat her to cause the baby's death: "Pray that she abort that, If she's talkin' 'bout keepin' it / One hit to the stomach, She's leakin' it," Budden sings.

Day Gardner, director of Black Americans for Life, an African-American pro-life group, says the lyrics are "demeaning and outright violent toward both women and unborn children."

"It is appalling to suggest that a man attack a woman to cause the death of her unborn child," Gardner said. "As women and as mothers, we simply cannot allow ourselves or our unborn children to be treated as objects of such abuse."

Melissa Ashley, a spokeswoman for Usher's publicist, told LifeNews.com she had no comment. She said she had not heard Budden's remix version.

Usher's label LaFace/Zomba records, and its parent, BMG Entertainment, referred requests for comment back to Usher's publicist. Calls from LifeNews.com to Budden's label, Island/Def Jam Records, were not returned.

Gardner's group is asking for calls to Usher's label and for R&B radio stations to pull the remix from their playlists. Some stations have already added the Budden version to their rotation.

Last week, Usher set a record for the most consecutive weeks spent at the top of the Billboard pop charts since they were unveiled in 1940.


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I have not heard aforementioned remix, but this article makes me leery to do so.

Senusret I 06-30-2004 09:01 PM

Oh my gosh.

Neosoulchild 06-30-2004 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Oh my gosh.
That's the same thing I said. I can't believe he would even have the nerve to think it let alone speak it. :mad:

RedefinedDiva 06-30-2004 10:49 PM

How could Usher eve approve a verse like that? Next thing we know, he will try to pull some kind of Justin move and say that he didn't know, didn't hear the final cut, or didn't want to censor another artist. :rolleyes:

abaici 06-30-2004 11:13 PM

WOW, it doesn't happen often, but I'm actually speechless!

1savvydiva 06-30-2004 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by abaici
WOW, it doesn't happen often, but I'm actually speechless!
I'm right there with ya homie!

Senusret I 06-30-2004 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
How could Usher eve approve a verse like that? Next thing we know, he will try to pull some kind of Justin move and say that he didn't know, didn't hear the final cut, or didn't want to censor another artist. :rolleyes:
To be fair, unofficial remixes to popular songs are made all the time. Usher might really not have known about it.

When Amerie's first single FINALLY got its own remix with Ludacris in '02 or '03, Camron had already came out with his own spin on it, with less than flattering lyrics as well.

TheEpitome1920 07-01-2004 08:52 AM

That is a hot mess!:mad:

mccoyred 07-01-2004 09:46 AM

Exactly! My original reading of the article indicated that another artist (Budden) remixed Usher's song. So how is that Usher's fault and why is he getting the bad publicity? Did I miss the part where this remix is on Usher's album?


Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
To be fair, unofficial remixes to popular songs are made all the time. Usher might really not have known about it.

When Amerie's first single FINALLY got its own remix with Ludacris in '02 or '03, Camron had already came out with his own spin on it, with less than flattering lyrics as well.


Dedicated2Delta 07-01-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Neosoulchild
That's the same thing I said. I can't believe he would even have the nerve to think it let alone speak it. :mad:

That's what I thought the first time I heard the remix. They used to play it all the time on the stations near the area that I live. I just switch the station when it comes on. But as long as people are requesting it, the stations are going to play it.

AKA2D '91 07-01-2004 11:58 AM

Re: Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
What has gotten into Usher?



Last week, Usher set a record for the most consecutive weeks spent at the top of the Billboard pop charts since they were unveiled in 1940.



Interesting....(now a controversy)

Well, I bet this controversy will add to his record sales. :confused: :rolleyes:

I haven't heard the remix either. :confused:

BLUTANG 07-01-2004 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Dedicated2Delta
But as long as people are requesting it, the stations are going to play it.
can't say it any better than that.

Not a fan of Joe Budden, and i haven't heard this remix... i don't even like the original (take my Usher fan club card :( and i loooove me some Mr. Raymond) so next time i hear the opening strains or usher talking i guess i'll keep the station on.

Senusret I 07-01-2004 09:54 PM

I downloaded the Joe Budden remix.

He really should be ashamed of himself.

RedefinedDiva 07-02-2004 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
To be fair, unofficial remixes to popular songs are made all the time. Usher might really not have known about it.

When Amerie's first single FINALLY got its own remix with Ludacris in '02 or '03, Camron had already came out with his own spin on it, with less than flattering lyrics as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by mccoyred
Exactly! My original reading of the article indicated that another artist (Budden) remixed Usher's song. So how is that Usher's fault and why is he getting the bad publicity? Did I miss the part where this remix is on Usher's album?
Though I understand what you both are saying, if I had a song and was getting bad press or whatever about it, I would be adament about getting it pulled AND getting a public apology. It's one thing to let a remix slide that just has a lot of cursing and hatnot, but to promote beating babies out of people is a whole new ballgame. Considering that he all but said that he wanted nothing to do with the whole baby situation, I don't know what to say of the remix lyrics. Though I doubt that he would be promoting this, all I can do is shake my head. I will have to download it and hear it for myself.

Cali_Keisha 07-02-2004 12:34 AM

That's crazy, I would hope Usher had nothing 2 do with it or he might have a bumpy riad ahead of him.

Sugar_N_Spice 07-02-2004 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Though I understand what you both are saying, if I had a song and was getting bad press or whatever about it, I would be adament about getting it pulled AND getting a public apology. It's one thing to let a remix slide that just has a lot of cursing and hatnot, but to promote beating babies out of people is a whole new ballgame. Considering that he all but said that he wanted nothing to do with the whole baby situation, I don't know what to say of the remix lyrics. Though I doubt that he would be promoting this, all I can do is shake my head. I will have to download it and hear it for myself.
:mad: :mad:
Cosign! I haven't heard the remix, but if Joe Budden is really rhyming what he is accused of, then Usher should take some action to get it pulled. :mad:

mccoyred 07-02-2004 08:39 AM

Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?


should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!



Quote:

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Though I understand what you both are saying, if I had a song and was getting bad press or whatever about it, I would be adament about getting it pulled AND getting a public apology. It's one thing to let a remix slide that just has a lot of cursing and hatnot, but to promote beating babies out of people is a whole new ballgame. Considering that he all but said that he wanted nothing to do with the whole baby situation, I don't know what to say of the remix lyrics. Though I doubt that he would be promoting this, all I can do is shake my head. I will have to download it and hear it for myself.

Senusret I 07-02-2004 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mccoyred
Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?


should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!

Basically.

FeeFee 07-02-2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mccoyred
Yes, if it was MY work being dragged through the mud, I would definitely speak out. However, the headlines that read:

Usher's Confessions Remix Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?
What has gotten into Usher?


should read

Joe Budden's remix of Usher's Confessions Advocating Abortion and Violence Against Women?

That's why I am saying Usher is getting bad press on something that I am sure he had nothing to do with!

Exactly, but we all know how the media uses different tactics to get people to read their stuff. Usher is obviously more popular than Joe Budden, so they'll use Usher's name in the headlines instead. :(

Someone needs to remind Joe Budden that doing something like beating a baby out of someone is a CRIME!!!!! :mad: :mad:

blackerican 07-02-2004 01:59 PM

I'm not a Usher fan....however alot of my LS's like his music. So, I listened to the 1st "Confessions". It was OK..... But to have a remix thats contains lyrics about harming and/or killing an innocent child....I have a problem with. I think that Usher should demand that it is pulled off the air. He reputation is at stake!!!

Love_Spell_6 07-13-2004 12:10 PM

This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

BirthaBlue4 07-13-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

YES!!!

Now, to be honest, I'm guilty of listening to songs with a good beat that have bad lyrics, but once I really listen to the song, I don't like it anymore. Now if I'd have heard this, it would have turned my stomach and I would have turned the dial.

Now, it wouldn't be freedom of speech if a white group made an album talking about how they don't like black people, or some other type of thing that went against us, like our own people's music. There'd be an uprising. It seems like Black folks want to be respected by the outside, but don't care about their own communities. That's not gonna fly. That's why folks were mad at Bill Cosby for tellin the truth.

Senusret I 07-13-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
This song was discussed on the Oreilly Factor last night, and just as the case when Mr. Oreilly came against Ludacris...people will see Mr. OReilly as a racist. Regardless of if its a white man pointing out what's wrong in our community..wrong is wrong. It is funny to me when people talk about airing our dirty laundry... when we do it everyday in our own music..whether we're singing it or buying the records. WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? Folks get all upset over silly incidences like "Blackface" at a college party...or Senator Trent Lott's comments....but when rappers in our own community do something like this..we cry freedom of speech AND dance to it when it comes on the radio!!! Now that's Butt Booty Backwards LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125071,00.html

It really sounds like your opinion is sorta based on something that hasn't happened yet, if it ever happens. I don't think anyone in this thread, or that I even know, agrees with what Joe Budden is saying in the Confessions remix.

I think there IS outrage about this song....it just depends on what your media outlets are. If you depend on Fox News to see the outrage among people of color, then you won't see much.

The other thing is, this remix is NOT getting airplay in many places, and perhaps that's because the powers that be at radio stations have decided that this song crosses the line. I don't know.

But it does just seem like the things you are mentioning in your post are kind of out of left-field.

Love_Spell_6 07-14-2004 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
It really sounds like your opinion is sorta based on something that hasn't happened yet, if it ever happens. I don't think anyone in this thread, or that I even know, agrees with what Joe Budden is saying in the Confessions remix.

I think there IS outrage about this song....it just depends on what your media outlets are. If you depend on Fox News to see the outrage among people of color, then you won't see much.

The other thing is, this remix is NOT getting airplay in many places, and perhaps that's because the powers that be at radio stations have decided that this song crosses the line. I don't know.

But it does just seem like the things you are mentioning in your post are kind of out of left-field.

Well if no one agreed with what these rappers say on their songs..they're record sales and popularity wouldn't be sky high.

The outrage doesn't depend on what my media outlets are sweety..as if you know what they are...when our community chooses to really come out against something..its well known...if anything...fox news is looking out for this type of things moreso that Bootylicious Entertainment Televeision News....

And I could see why my opinions would seem from left field to you and other GCers ;)

Senusret I 07-14-2004 10:55 AM

You are generalizing "these rappers" when we are talking about Joe Budden.

I am not your sweety, you can call me Senusret.

I don't know what your media outlets are. I was speaking generally.

You generalize an awful lot.....there is no such thing as "THE black community." There are black communities in which some of us live and some of us do not. "Outrage" does not have to be lead by an entire community for change to happen.

And I pretty much think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.


Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Well if no one agreed with what these rappers say on their songs..they're record sales and popularity wouldn't be sky high.

The outrage doesn't depend on what my media outlets are sweety..as if you know what they are...when our community chooses to really come out against something..its well known...if anything...fox news is looking out for this type of things moreso that Bootylicious Entertainment Televeision News....

And I could see why my opinions would seem from left field to you and other GCers ;)


Love_Spell_6 07-14-2004 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
You are generalizing "these rappers" when we are talking about Joe Budden.

I am not your sweety, you can call me Senusret.

I don't know what your media outlets are. I was speaking generally.

You generalize an awful lot.....there is no such thing as "THE black community." There are black communities in which some of us live and some of us do not. "Outrage" does not have to be lead by an entire community for change to happen.

And I pretty much think you are contrary for the sake of being contrary.

riiight :rolleyes:

Senusret I 07-14-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
riiight :rolleyes:
I'm glad we agree!

_Opi_ 07-14-2004 01:29 PM

Those lyrics are distrubing.

I never like Budden, but now I have a strong reason too.

Usher is on my list too..


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